By on February 7, 2014

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The best part about working at TTAC has very little to do with the constant press car access, the barely-disguised graft known as “new car launches” or having various varieties of invective spewed at you by tens of readers each day. No, the real fringe benefit is that you are paid to spend a fair amount of your waking hours reading and researching about cars, and that includes browsing the online classifieds for strange and obscure cars.

I came across this gem during a break in a search for some oddbals to post on our forum’s Used Car section. I really like the TSX. It’s not the fastest, or the sharpest handling car money can buy. It’s certainly not the most prestigious, and it won’t impress the superficial types. But it just feels right, in a way that the ILX 2.4 (a very similar car on paper) does not. The fact that it’s an Acura is also re-assuring. This is the kind of car that you can hang on to for 15 years, safe in the knowledge that if the stereo conks out, your car won’t be immobilized either (see: BMW E46).

There’s a surprising number of manual transmission TSXs available near me, but this one jumped out due to its price and condition (both great, as far as I can tell) and for how awful the color and specification are. Whoever ordered this is a real oddball. It’s painted in a ghastly shade of purple that could charitable be described as “Merlot-from-a-screw-top-bottle), while the cloth interior fabric is as bland as it gets. But it also has a 6-speed manual.

This kind of car is arguably the least desirable TSX, from a retail perspective. I know this because I first saw an ad for the car in September. At the time, I put aside any notions of buying another car, let alone getting rid of my Miata.

The latter option is still unpalatable, but Jack’s accident has made me revisit one of the reasons I sold my first Miata (much to my regret): there’s a good chance that a collision with a modern car, truck or SUV would be very ugly for myself and any passenger I was carrying. Almost as ugly as the TSX’s color.

Of course, I am not the typical retail used car buyer, and for an enthusiast like me, that salesman’s floorplanned folly is a great opportunity for me. Cloth seats and purple paint aside,  big draw is that it’s a relatively affordable and reliable car with a manual transmission that is fairly fun to drive. Of course, if anyone asks, it’s burgundy, thank you very much.

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104 Comments on “Crapwagon Outtake: The Wine Dark TSX...”


  • avatar
    BunkerMan

    I actually like the colour. It’s certainly better than the average “Greige” car on the roads today.

  • avatar
    klossfam

    I believe there may be a listing error in the “features”. I don’t think Acura has EVER released a TSX model dating back to the Gen 1 in 2004 that was available with CLOTH seats. There are some ‘suede’ inserts on the current Special Edition models. So, this TSX may be an even BETTER deal than you originally anticipated! Go get it! The perfed leather seats on the TSX are one of the better seats I’ve owned (I had a 2004 TSX for about 2 years). Below are the most ‘basic’ seat features in a 2009 TSX:

    INTERIOR FEATURES
    Sport seats with perforated leather-trimmed interior
    Driver’s 8-way power seat with adjustable lumbar support
    Front passenger’s 4-way power seat
    Dual-level heated front seats

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    I didn’t know you could even GET a TSX with cloth seats! Or is that because you’re in Canada? I’d have to see more photos, the color doesn’t look that awful if it had some tints. They were doing the LS430 in that color a while back, I believe.

    • 0 avatar
      davefromcalgary

      I looked hard at a couple of TSX during my search, but at the end of the day I wanted either a bigger NA 6, or a turbo 4.

      Not taking anything away from the Honda 4 cyl powertrain and excellent stickshift.

    • 0 avatar
      sgeffe

      Was considering Basque Red Pearl for my Accord, but got the “Modern Steel Metallic” instead–more rare in my Touring model, and just looks better! (I like the one-off kinds of colors in Hondas anyway; my previous Accord was the “Carbon Bronze Pearl.”) I’ve also observed that the BRP is a tad darker than MSM, and it shows salt and dirt more.

      The Modern Steel came from the “Polished Metal” which looked REAL good on the TSX!

  • avatar
    JuniperBug

    I think it actually looks pretty good in that colour. In any case, a purple Acura is still less gay than a Miata ;)

    I agree that an older TSX appears to be a good practical, slightly-under-the-radar driver’s car. I’d rock it if I were in the market and the price was right.

  • avatar
    nine11c2

    I own a ’09 TSX. Black and black, with a 6 speed manual. I went in looking for a TL, but when I saw the TSX had grown, and I fit and it had the great 4 with the 6 speed – I got in at UNDER $30K. It is what you say – a REALLY great car that does all I need. 4 people fit, nice ride, great handling, great spunk from the 4 (particularly at 3500 rpm the variable valves make it feel like a turbo kicks in) and the best part..A REAL EVERY DAY 28.5 to 29 mpg. Great stereo. Very good technology.

    If you evaluate on the track, a BMW 3 is the better car. A TSX is the better real car. It handles as well up to 90%, it goes way better in the snow, and at the risk of jinxing my ride…it takes only gas, oil and tires to go (the original equipment Michelins went like 82,500 miles – as my brother, and mechanic said “thats all you can ask for”). The interior is beautiful. Its zippy in a way most cars, even heavy sports cars aren’t. Very comfortable – I’ve done NY to Myrtle Beach in it.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      Now don’t get mad, but –

      Do you LIKE the super faux-heavy yank to the center steering? That’s what really bothered me when I drove one.

      • 0 avatar
        IHateCars

        I used to get these as loaners when I brought in my TL-S 6MT for service. Nice little car but the torque steer was even worse in it than my TL-S….go figure.

      • 0 avatar
        Nedmundo

        I have a 2010 TSX, and have had a 2012 as loaner, and neither had “heavy yank to the center” steering. In fact, the EPS, with its poor feedback and weak return to center between about 10:30 and 1:30, bugs me more than anything else about the car. My TSX’s steering is fairly heavy at low speeds, which bothered some folks, so maybe that’s what you experienced. They increased low speed assist for 2011.

        BTW, a Basque Red Pearl with 6MT is rare in the U.S., because that combo was only available in the 2009MY.

    • 0 avatar

      Yep, good cars. My dad’s Accord has the same engine…the 2.4, but with less power (also a manual, but only 5 speeds). It has 345,000 hard kilometres on it and still drives very well, so I’d say you can expect the same or better out of yours if you care to keep it that long.

      One question: Where does it rev on the highway? This used to bother me hugely with Honda’s sport-tuned manuals. Great feel, but they revved too high.

    • 0 avatar
      snakebit

      First, JuniperBug
      Enough with this or that is “gay”. Would you like someone else referring to your bike avatar as “gay”? You’re out of middle school and we’re into the 21st century. Snap out of it.

      When you’re buying a used car, even a pre-owned car, your color choices are a little more limited. That’s the tradeoff for saving money. Most of us accept that. First, like others have posted, this TSX is probably heated leather. You don’t need heated seats where you live, don’t switch them on. If this car is otherwise in stunning condition, I could care less about it being burgundy or merlot with a screw-off cap.

      If I lived close to Pacific Coast Hwy, I’d be driving a used NSX. But to be ready for most any road conditions, my favorite Acura lately is the first and second gen TSX. I drove several of them as company cars, and they seem as close to my 3-Series that I have now as Honda/Acura will ever build. To be honest, the 3-Series, with a full tank of petrol for weight, good all-season tires, and proper use of the DSC/traction control will keep up with the front-drive TSX as long as you don’t carry on as though you’re driving a Grand Cherokee.

      If you’re a cautious driver in your Miata, you shouldn’t feel threatened by dudes in their new Navigators. Just like a favorite pair of shoes, you should find space on the Kreindler ranch for your roadster. Think of your Miata as just another child or pet, part of your family and you. And, as for the manual gearbox, I wouldn’t at all be deterred. That’s what my 3-Series is, and I haven’t regretted the search to find a car with one

      • 0 avatar
        JuniperBug

        Lighten up, dude. I have a Miata and work as a male stewardess. If you can’t make fun of yourself, life gets boring.

        • 0 avatar
          PrincipalDan

          @JuniperBug +1, I often tell staff members, if you don’t laugh at yourself all you’ll ever do is cry.

          • 0 avatar
            Nick_515

            Common misconception. Snakebit is NOT asking you to stop being funny OR make fun of ourselves.

            He is asking you to recognize that calling something “gay” stopped being fun a while ago.

      • 0 avatar
        TMA1

        Threats to Miata drivers from SUVs aren’t necessarily deliberate. Just driving next to, or behind someone, the other driver literally may not see the Miata because it’s so low to the ground. Can’t be shy about getting on the horn to let them know you’re there.

      • 0 avatar

        Oh, trust me, the Miata is not going to go anywhere. This is just a DD option.

      • 0 avatar
        sketch447

        snakebit, let’s cool it with the Big Brother PC-thuggery. If he thinks purple is a gay color, more power to him. After the Duck Dynasty brouhaha, people are tired of being bullied by the Thought Police.

        Trouble with the TSX is you can buy the TL for only few grand more. I think they’re BOTH just Accords but I know what I’d still go with the TL.

        For the record, I had a purple Achieva. Gay color or not, it was far sharper than the dour greys and silvers of all cars now……

        • 0 avatar
          snakebit

          sketch447,

          Thuggery? Thuggery to me is a soccer lout that pounds away on an adjacent fan just for standing up in front of him, it’s a kid still in school that pounds away on a fellow student because this bully thinks his classmate is gay or not man-enough and he’s learned from someone at home that his classmate is just some second-class citizen. For some of us, making a careless, automatic determination that a color or even a car is “gay” is step one to eventually rationalizing that it’s OK to dump on, bully, and beat on people because you’ve been taught somehow that they don’t matter. Thuggery equates to committing a violent act. Do you think posting a message that perhaps we should be a little more thoughtful about how we describe inanimate objects and colors is a violent act? I’m not dictating a party line , just want people to think before they post.

          I don’t yet know the particulars about the issue with Duck Dynasty, other than one member was called to task for an off-hand remark. I’m not in the DD fan base.

          I might be able to see where you would confuse a late model TSX with a similar year TL, and you and i would just make different choices. Comparing, for example though, a 2005 TL versus a 2005 TSX, there is nothing ‘Accord feeling’ about the TSX. Body and suspension-wise, that TSX shares next to nothing with any Accord, Civic, or TL. Build quality-wise, that TSX is reminiscent of the RSX (both were Japanese-built), but there again, different suspension and added length make the TSX a different experience. If it wasn’t front wheel drive, I’d swear it came out of Munich. All around, it’s still my favorite Acura, regardless of cost.

  • avatar
    NormSV650

    Buy new! As the TSX wagon is on the lot for half the year. MDX and ILX are right there too. So much for desirability of Acura’s shiny calipers. Even Buick outsold Acura this year.

    http://247wallst.com/special-report/2013/09/26/the-cars-americans-dont-want-to-buy/3/

  • avatar
    Stuck in DC traffic

    I have owned a 04 tsx 6mt since 07. 256k miles and still going strong. It amazes me how good the interior still looks, everything works and it starts every time I ask it. Normal work on it has been consumables(tires,brakes,belts,clutch, battery), regular maintenance or the regular repairs you expect. Issues I have had to deal with; new starter and ac compressor seized. Only other issue is it got small on me when I started to have kids. But our xc90 fills that need. The TSX makes a great commuter, but as I went over 40, a MT in DC traffic sucks. My advice … don’t get old.

    The TSX is as you describe it, not the prestige car or a screaming performance car. But it is interesting to drive, honest in what it does and I am happy to jump in it everyday to commute in it. Prior to this I was a huge VW/Audi fan, so everything working with mimimal investment has been a revelation. I got it from a sister in law who was bored of it and paid cash for it. My plan was to dump it after two years, but never felt the need.

    he ILX should be what I want to replace my car with. I drove one and wasn’t moved. Now I am waiting for my tsx to have major repair and will look for a used tsx wagon or RDX to haul the kids and dogs with. But I fear auto trans Honda products.

    • 0 avatar

      I wouldn’t fear the auto Honda products (if you are concerned about reliability). They have only had difficulties for very specific periods on one transmission: the 5-speed automatic between 2001 and 2004. Since then and before then, no issues that I know of. This affected the V6 Accord, TL, MDX, and Odyssey of that era.

      • 0 avatar
        Stuck in DC traffic

        Good to know, but even before that, accords and civic’s like puking up there trans, so Honda has a history.

        Fortunately I have a mother in law and sister in law with a 2012 MDX and a 2010 TL as beta testers for me. My inner cheapskate is hoping one of them gets sick of there ride and I can swoop in and buy one of them at trade in cost like I did in 07 before my TSX needs a major repair. I love people who dealer service cars and keep them for 3-4 years. The TL is getting to the age where my SIL might dump it. I just hate the beak on these cars, but being cheap might mean I deal with it.

        • 0 avatar
          Zykotec

          Just buy one, and then find a European Accord grill on Ebay. Should make some people skratch their heads too.

          • 0 avatar
            Stuck in DC traffic

            After I had mine a couple of years we where in Europe on vacation. Seeing the euro Accord messed with my head every single time I saw one those two weeks.

        • 0 avatar
          Pch101

          There are TL beak replacements available for about $1,000, plus labor. Whether they’re any good, I don’t know, but I did see some that looked pretty attractive in the photos.

      • 0 avatar
        George B

        The problem with Honda automatic transmissions isn’t so neatly isolated. It’s widespread among V6 automatic models like the Odyssey, Accord, and TL with both the 4 speed and 5 speed automatics. I own one. My theory is that the clutch diameter and area are inherently inadequate for the combination of V6 torque and heavy car. However, the transmission is fairly easy to rebuild and transmission shops get lots of practice, so adjust car prices by the cost of rebuild. The 4 cylinder automatic models seem to last longer.

    • 0 avatar

      I also spend a good bit of time stuck in DC traffic. About a year ago, I sold my e53 X5 3.0 and picked up a 2011 TSX wagon. Excellent decision. Great commuter, space in the back for the dog, roof rails for the ski rack. Plan is to hold on to the wagon for many years to come.

      My biggest complaint is the transmission, which seems to have a mind of its own. And I do worry about its ability to live as long as the rest of the car will. There are times when I wish it was a manual, but I can just drive my 944 when I want to row my own.

      • 0 avatar
        Stuck in DC traffic

        That idea has been rattling around in my head recently. Auto tsx wagon to being stuck in traffic, roof rack for bikes, cargo area for dogs, TL size for kid seats. Then a older MT sports car for fun and tinkering. But I said that I was buying my tsx in 07 for cheap so I can buy a toy car which I never did.

  • avatar

    My father’s first car was in that exact color. It was an RWD wagon with a carburator choke, but the same color.

  • avatar
    Dweller on the Threshold

    I totally get the safety-related dilemma with the Miata. Love mine, but truthfully I’ve been looking for ways to spend fewer hours behind the wheel partly because of the personal injury risk.

    I know that it is generally regarded as a stout little car. And there’s the accident avoidance benefit (which I don’t credit much). Further, I don’t really worry about the convertible aspect as such — these things are darn hard to flip with their COG.

    The big problem is that for nearly any normal size adult, the seatbacks of the first two generation cars come up to about the base of the skull. Perfect for turning a minor rear-ender into something quite worse than it should be. And there’s no more likely sort of accident than a fault free (for the target, anyway) rear-end collision — little or no warning nor chance to avert the MVA from occurring.

    If I knew when and where this feared MVA would occur, I’d surely not prefer to be in my Miata. In fact, I’d probably take a different route that day and avoid the MVA entirely. But I’m pretty sure that part of what makes an accident occur is unawareness beforehand.

    So I got a G37. And now I’m wondering if the reduced hours I plan to use the Miata justify holding onto it at all. Sometimes wisdom comes with age, which is better than wisdom coming from experience.

    • 0 avatar
      chaparral

      Sparco seats will save your back in a crash. They are taller than the stock ones. Prospeed kart sports can get you a pair for under a grand

      • 0 avatar
        Dweller on the Threshold

        Yeah, and would require modifications to the seat rails and/or direct attachment to the seat pan structure itself.

        Who knows what fitment/materials strength compromises this might cause? I guess autocrossers are fine with the result, but I’m hesitant.

        I also don’t think much of the daily driveability of a race seat.

        • 0 avatar
          Dave in Toronto

          You haven’t shopped after market seats enough. The rails bolt right on. They make ones that adjust as much as OEM.

          Actually I had a set of Sparco Roadsters in my 1stgen for years which have NO adjustment. Quite comfortable.

          I think you are just done with driving your Miata.

          Here’s my advice – park it for a good long while before you sell it :-)

          (…if I had a nickle for all the “oh why did I sell me Miata stories…)

          • 0 avatar
            Dweller on the Threshold

            I can’t imagine really selling it. Maybe just driving it less.

            Can you link me to an aftermarket seat that bolts directly to the existing fixtures and that adjusts like OEM?

  • avatar
    1998redwagon

    heated cloth seats and a 6mt? nice…….
    color is gorgeous, interior color is well, shall we say, not optimized.
    yes, ivory seats would be cool, esp with black trim and carpet.

  • avatar
    uihidden

    When we needed a second car, I figured a TSX was a good choice for a city/airport car. I found an ’07 6MT w/Nav and 40k in Northern WI (like 300 miles from Chicago) that I watched for 5 months before contacting them.

    Car was in excellent shape, but I guess the manual was a turn-off at a dealer in a town of 2500. It had been on the lot for 7 months, occasionally being used by the manager. After a few calls, the “non-negotiate” dealer found a way to have a “special markdown” of $2000 off their price. So far the car has been perfect.

  • avatar
    tremorcontrol

    I had an 06 TSX and loved it – gave it to my mom and got a 14 volvo s60 T5 sport (even though volvo is taking a beating in the comments sections of this site…). The steering feel on the 1st gen TSX is definitely better than the S60, but the S60 adds the torque and AWD option that the TSX has been missing. I love under-the-radar cars like the TSX and S60.

  • avatar
    B Buckner

    OK, so we now know that a European Accord re-badged to a US “luxury” brand Acura would not appeal to the superficial. What vehicle in this price range would appeal to the superficial?

    • 0 avatar
      Zykotec

      I think they look awesome, but here In Norway they are a rarity. The styling is still more subtle than most other luxury sedans. With it’s famous ‘beak’ and in this case the color and cloth interior, superficial people looking for a car to boost their image will normally walk right past it.

    • 0 avatar
      kvndoom

      A US-spec Civic rebadged to a US luxury brand, apparently. ILX, LOL

  • avatar
    prndlol

    I like to go Kijiji car window shopping as well a few times a week even though I don’t need a new car. The dirty little secret is that eBay owns the company, but the service has left Craigslist a ghost town by comparison up here.

  • avatar
    Christian Gulliksen

    I drive a first-generation ’07 TSX and couldn’t be happier with it. Well built, high quality interior design and materials, every feature I could want, fun to drive, 30+ mpg on the highway at 80 mph, cheap to maintain (even at the dealer), never a problem, and a quasi-premium image that fits in everywhere.

  • avatar
    Dave M.

    I’m trying to figure out what’s not to like on this car!

    CHECK: ‘Dark wine’ is a beautiful color – it accents chrome perfectly, especially if the chrome is low key like on this car (plenium shield excepted). If I wasn’t hooked on white and silver cars (they show designer intentions off the best IMO), wine/maroon is my first ‘color’ choice.

    CHECK: Manual. Increases the fun to drive ration 100% unless you live in/near congestion.

    CHECK: Sunroof. Life is too short to not have one.

    CHECK: Cloth seats. More comfortable than leather. Bonus: heated.

    CHECK: No NAV. That’s why God gave us iPhones.

    CHECK: Honda/Acura, thus a great 4 cylinder engine.

    COOL!!!!!!

    • 0 avatar
      Synchromesh

      As a former Integra GS-R sedan owner I cannot stand the TSX. Integra was revvy, nimble, economical and light. This is a Germanified version which means it’s much heavier, larger and luxurious. All the features I despise in a fun car. The ironic part is that the little 1.8 VTEC engine in the Integra propelled the car to 60 slightly faster than this ugly behemoth’s 2.4 does. And that car was designed in the early 90s. Such sadness.

      At least the first gen TSX looked good. Second gen looks pretty ugly, much like the current TL. After I got rid of the Integra I stepped away from the Acura brand and I won’t be coming back until they make something appealing.

      • 0 avatar
        dal20402

        The ILX 2.4 is to today’s Civic pretty much exactly as the Integra was to the Civic when it was made. It’s lighter, quicker, less luxurious, and more economical than the TSX.

        • 0 avatar

          Thank you, this is why I don’t get all the hate towards the ILX. How likely do you think it is that in 10 years time a whole new onslaught of ex-Acura fanboys will materialize complaining about the good ol’ ILX days?

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Hopefully the brand will be discontinued by then.

          • 0 avatar
            NormSV650

            Which brings up a valid question on what is going to take for Acura to turn things around and sustain sales growth? Selling $45,000-55,000 luxury cars against the Germans is not one of them.

            VTEC was neat in the 1990’s so what does HMC bring to the table today? Seems like everybody from the Koreans on up already have mass use of turbochargers. Put electric motors on the rear wheels of all their cars and go green?

          • 0 avatar
            kvndoom

            @Echid

            …very unlikely, I’d say. Most of those ex-Acura fanboys loved the stick-shift options you could get with an Acura, and their exclusivity from Accords of the day. Considering the ILX’ reputation as little more than a “Civic Si with leather,” it’s not going to have the same cred.

      • 0 avatar
        snakebit

        …a Germanified version…heavier, larger and luxurious, i.e. no go on the TSX.

        Not that I have any allegiance to American Honda, but if you used to be a GS-R candidate, how does the latest Civic Si stack up against your former car? Maybe, the Honda goal posts have shifted.

        I, too, kept a GS-R (coupe) for two years, and loved it for the first 18 months, but determined late that for the kind of usage I put my car through, it was basically just a luxe Civic, and I wanted better handling and still more luxe. With two 3 Series BMWs in the same driveway, and the appearance of the first TSX at work, the GS-R’s days were numbered.

        • 0 avatar
          Synchromesh

          First of all a true sports/sporty car car has little to do with luxury. The only luxury thing I always care about was the moonroof and maybe cruise control. If you don’t agree with me then there is always the ugly bloated unreliable 3-series you can purchase.

          Also, comparing the GS-R with 3-series is just silly. They were at different price points and Integra was never about luxury in the first place. The handling on it was great for fwd and the shifter was far better than any BMW I ever had to drive.

          • 0 avatar
            snakebit

            If you think about it, it’s hard these days to get a pure sports/sporty car without at least a little content that runs over into the luxe neighborhood. Your GS-R has a nice VTEC motor and special ratio gears and slightly different suspension. The early ones of the Gen Two GSR(94 and newer)also have a four or six speaker sound system, power moonroof, cruise control, AC. One model of the later GS-Rs comes with leather seating. It’s hard to get away from a few luxe items on your car because Acura includes them in the GS-R package. For you to get a little closer to a pure sport/sporty Honda or Acura, you’d need to move to the Integra Type R or the Honda S2000 CR (Club Racer) where things like AC, the sound system(on the CR), and some of the sound insulation is omitted. The inclusion of the 3 Series might not sound fair to you, but a lot of guys in your shoes start with the GSR or similar sports coupe or sedan, and move to the 3 Series when they’ve gone further in their careers.
            Between used car dealers and certified preowned cars at BMW, it’s not as big a stretch as it seems except for the fact that there hasn’t been a new Integra offered in the last 12 years.

            I’m on my second 3 Series coupe with a manual gearbox (preowned) so I feel a little differently about them than you. And unlike you, I could give up my moonroof if BMW would give me the option of sport seats instead of the roof. I also have a V8 roadster, so that’s how I feed my sunshine fix. In the end, you just need to buy whatever car keeps you happy.

    • 0 avatar
      Kevin Jaeger

      I pretty much agree on all points.

      I’m always happy to see almost any color that isn’t greige, and I think this color is just fine.

      I’m not really a Honda fan (other than the S2000 and NSX) but the TSX is about the only model left that would tempt me at all. As long as it’s a manual the car should be durable. This car looks like a fine choice – not at all a crapwagon.

      But personally I’d stick with the Miata until you absolutely need a back seat.

  • avatar
    Tifighter

    Given what 3 to 4 year old TSX’s are going for here in the NW, I’d just go for a new Accord Sport.

  • avatar
    Maymar

    For the record, this particular car has been in stock since the start of August, should you want to strengthen your barganing power, if you’re considering it.

  • avatar
    CanTex

    I have a 2010 TSX in Basque Red Pearl with Parchment leather. 2.4 engine with automatic. Yes there may be better cars in some areas but the two words to best describe the car are “balanced and agile”. For me, the seating position and controls layout is perfect.r My only gripe is the jiggly ride on Texas concrete highways. No worries with this car as it was a CPO car with 4700 miles and an extra year’s warranty: 5 years 62,000 miles.

    • 0 avatar
      snakebit

      Owning a TSX and getting it through a CPO program sounds to me like hitting two home runs.

      • 0 avatar
        CanTex

        The choice, in the spring of 2011, was between about a dozen dealer courtesy cars, mostly black or white, but there were two in Basque Red Pearl. I just picked the one with the lowest mileage. The car was absolutely flaw-free, no scrapes or dents, and was detailed as nicely as a new car. No regrets whatsoever. This is my fun around-town car, the RDX is for over-the-road comfort. The perfect combination. Three home runs.

  • avatar
    mjz

    Gorgeous color! Don’t whine about it Derek. See what I did there? Chuckles to self…

  • avatar
    Atum

    To the country of Canada: Posting vehicle VINs on listings is way more important than front plates that sassy say the model year.

  • avatar
    Reino

    Could a TSX owner speak to a comparison to the Accord? I have a 2004 Accord with the 2.4 with 5-speed. It is really fun to drive, sporty, handles well, and has leather and is loaded. I thought about upgrading to a similar year TSX. Is the extra 30 HP and handling worth it?

    • 0 avatar
      Zykotec

      Mybe not if you need rear seat legroom (or headroom),or trunk space, unless you want the wagon, and they got worse in the 2nd generation.(come to think of it, you didn’t get the wagon in the US as far back as 2004). There is a lot more to the engine than just 30hp though, though they are based on the same block and head design. Lovely cars, but not for everyone.

    • 0 avatar
      profk24

      I gave up my 2003 Accord 2.4 (MT) for a ’12 TSX. The TSX’s handling is in a different league entirely, and the engine seems like a bigger step up than the 40-hp difference would suggest. The TSX drives much better than it appears it would on paper. Derek’s review captures exactly why I chose it–it just “feels right” and I felt confident it would go for 200K without major issues. $28K out the door didn’t hurt, either. I’m sad to see it leave the Acura lineup.

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    CanTex

    There is Honda luxury and there is Acura luxury. We had a Crosstour and, though nice, it didn’t quite measure up. The Acura ride is a tad softer. But since the TSX is the Euro Accord, the handling is excellent. But you might want to wait for the TLX unless you find a good price on a TSX that you can’t resist. Us, because of the subtly better Acura touches, we’re sticking with Acura. An RDX replaced the Crosstour and it is so much better in every way.

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    loner

    Forget the color. Biggest downer aesthetically for these cars is the bland wheels. Put a nice set of 18 or 19 inch aftermarket wheels on there and she’ll look like a different car.

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    CopperCountry

    It’s funny how that beak, which seemed to garish and offensive when it first debuted, has mellowed with age. Or maybe it was the arrival of equally garish Hyundais or plastic-grin Mazdas that have made it look reasonable in comparison. Either way, this is one that’s gone from “no way!” to “why not?”

    Using my Miata as a fair-weather daily-driver is becoming less fun with each passing rush hour commute. I’ve see the carnage from too many “shock wave” pile-ups on the freeway, where traffic suddenly goes from 70 MPH to zero. Every time I see the carcasses lined up on the side of the road (which is about every other day,) I think of how the Miata would fare in such an event … not well, I presume. So for the same reason I don’t commute on my motorcycle, it may be time to relegate the Miata to off-peak hours only (or sell it.) And maybe a nice, used TL should take its place.

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    every e90 used at a bmw dealer set to be “under 20k” on cars.com
    is a first year model in this color. Owned by a cigar smoker with an odd prediliction for women’s perfume.


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