By on November 5, 2013

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At the opening of his company’s London store, Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk had some comments about the company’s upcoming falcon-winged crossover, the Model X. He said that it will offered only in an all wheel drive configuration that features electric motors in both the front and back of the car, and that it’s starting price will be slightly more than that of the Model S, which starts at $60,000.

The Model X’s price will be very similar to the Model S. It might be slightly higher, but… I can’t imagine that it will be… It’s probably going to be a slightly higher starting price because the Model X will only be offered as all-wheel drive. It will be dual motor, all-wheel drive.

[The relevant remarks start at ~24:00 of the video]

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21 Comments on “Elon Musk: Model X Will Be AWD Only and Priced “Slightly Higher” Than Model S...”


  • avatar

    LOL – so much for an “affordable EV” in the near future.

    I’m thinking it will start north of my Jeep SRT in price. Oh well- whatever you’ve got to do to keep our share prices high YOU DO IT!!!

  • avatar
    Instant_Karma

    I thought the whole point was to get people driving electric cars in large numbers, not to make another rich people toy/status symbol. Where’s a cheaper model, perhaps one priced to somewhat compete with an optioned out entry level luxury car?

  • avatar
    FractureCritical

    Teslas is outselling just about every other luxury car in its segment and at the higher end of the option range. There’s really no immidiate impetus for them to make a cheaper model, is there?

    • 0 avatar

      The E350 is still the number one selling luxury sedan.
      Lexus RX is the number one selling crossover.

      • 0 avatar
        Kyree S. Williams

        Well, you’re probably right. In no way does a Tesla Model S compete with the low entry price of a Lexus ES, Acura TL or Lincoln MKZ. However, when you start to look at mid-sized sport sedans that easily exceed $70K and full-sized flagships that exceed $100K, the Tesla starts to make a lot of sense. I don’t know that it could ever compete with the availability of $90K German sedans that don’t require getting onto a waiting list, but the Model S certainly has a trump card on all of them: exotic appeal.

    • 0 avatar
      charly

      Tesla needs a cheaper sister brand for its cheaper electric cars

  • avatar
    KixStart

    It’s not a bad plan if it works. So far, the Tesla Model S plan seems to be working and it seemed equally unlikely.

    • 0 avatar
      DeeDub

      I agree. The Model S has been the toy of choice for wealthy sport-sedan-driving men, so the X will be the perfect companion piece. All those wealthy moms shuttling their crotchfruit around town in BMW and Audi crossovers will line up around the block to have the latest high-status not-a-minivan.

  • avatar
    E46M3_333

    Something for the Silicon Valley rich to drive to their vacation homes in Tahoe.

  • avatar
    Beerboy12

    NO surprises here either. Electric motors lend themselves to all wheel drive, “X” is often used together with AWD and / or sport utility vehicls and Tesla do currently make high end cars.
    Seems like Teslas stock prices are healthy again, I’ll bet the doomsayers are pissed…

    • 0 avatar

      Electric motors can make sense with AWD, but look at the Audi R20 concept car for a real solution. Hybrid clean diesel is still the right idea when it comes to the sensible use of fuel and that is still the ultimate question. Then add two motors. Now add a totally active suspension that focuses on keeping the car on its wheels… very old idea, but sensible.

      I keep saying this, but never read it from others: All Tesla’s will eventually have to pay a road tax. Moreover, many are going to be sitting along desolate sections of highways with no back-up fuel. Finally, electricity is not even close to being a free or clean energy source. If I built a car that ran on coal, it would be much cleaner and more efficient. How would that sell? Not well, I can assure you.

      Stock prices are up? Investors are excited? So were Holland’s Tulip Bulb Salesmen. Markets go up and down, but we are still not getting fair or real market comparisons for fuels and electricity is currently way overrated.

      So what fuel source can beat out diesel? LNG when they finally get it right, but that will take awhile.

      • 0 avatar
        Kyree S. Williams

        Diesel engines do lend themselves to constant-load applications; however Volkswagen Auto Group vehicles are iffy enough…do we really need them—of all people—trying to combine a diesel with a battery and an electric motor?

      • 0 avatar
        Beerboy12

        I have long held the belief that diesel / electric hybrid is the way to go, for a hybrid, that is. Far better than gas / electric.
        Stock prices comments where in connection with the recent dip due to the fire crashes. I just wanted to point out the price had stabilized and that Tesla was still in business. Some commenters here were sounding the death march…

      • 0 avatar

        My previous post was a start. Click on my name for the right way out of this fuel economy/ performance issue:

        LNG Hybrids are really the ultimate coming technology, even though Diesel Hybrids are interesting for the moment.

        The reason that gaseous fuels will eventually become the best option rests with what we are doing. LNG simply allows fuel optimization in ways that oil and gasoline cannot possibly do. When the rubber finally meets the road (and it is coming), we will be easily able to squeeze many times what we presently do with any liquid fuel presently. In fact, fuel use will cease to be a big concern.
        My vision is that we will refuel when we go in for services such as an oil change.

        Of course, for LNG to become our fuel of choice, we will need some infrastructure to support it, but not as much as you would with electricity. When you can run many times as far between fill-ups as you can with any other fuel, the problem is no longer so pressing. Nevertheless, on cross-country trips, you will need to refuel.

        Electricity will always be an expensive end-use fuel as I said in my previous post because of the high transmission losses. However, it will always be a very interesting on-board conversion fuel because the components are light weight.. Hydraulic motors are interesting too, but they tend to be heavy, which is why electric power steering has become popular. Nevertheless, we could use hydraulics in large horizontal flywheels to stabilize cars, creating gyro effects, and at the same time store energy in useful ways to run motors. I have always wondered why we have not done this, but the industry is very set in its ways.

        Our present systems are basically very antiquated (over 100 years old) and our present technologies are designed to minimalize these antiquated problems. Considering those basic problems, we have done well. Cars are very useful tools even if they destroy the planet in some ways. However, we must turn this old technology around and in many cases start from scratch. Our present hybrid cars barely scratch the surface and really solve very little, while causing problems like battery disposal considerations.

        One very obvious problem down the road is that engines using our system thrive on cold temperatures, yet we use thermostatic controls to warm the occupants as we have since the beginning. Once we go to LNG, we must heat the interior with gas or electric heaters and keep the engine temps optimized for performance.

        Finally, when we get our system optimized, it will be a useful and far cheaper method of powering your house electrically. Instead of hooking your car up to run your car as some do now, you will hook your house up to your car to power the house. Thus, transmission losses will become a thing of the past.

  • avatar
    Kenmore

    There’s so much class-hate in any discussion of Tesla as long as it’s an expensive plaything. The X will just keep it that way. Which suits their owners just fine.

  • avatar
    redliner

    This was the plan all along. Model S, then then Model X, and after that a smaller more affordable sedan. This is no big shock.

  • avatar
    Kyree S. Williams

    I can’t believe people are already crying foul. Yes, the Model S has been very successful, but that doesn’t mean that Tesla can now just swoop down and offer a $30K-$40K car for the masses. On top of the still-high production costs, Tesla would need to figure out this anti-dealership thing and build more service stations. I don’t think a mass-market Tesla will be released anytime before the company’s charging-station infrastructure is deployed, which—at the earliest—will be sometime in 2015. In the meantime, why shouldn’t Tesla get as many blue-bloods as possible to subsidize the costs of its technology?

  • avatar
    dmw

    The Falcon Doors would be grounded in my work garage, where I have more than once smacked my head on a low set of pipes or a control-box getting out of my car. I don’t see the real benefit of that, other than as a way of shutting up the member of the family who wants a minivan beause sliding doors are better—but that could have been addressed with sliding doors. Also, If I have to park somewhere that I can’t open a normal car door to get out, I’m not parking there. I’ve had enough door-dings from ding-dongs.

    Also, for a family “utility” vehicle, if you can’t go a couple hundred miles to the beach or whatever and back, it’s a no go. Conversely, a two-ton sports-truck is a terrible “city-car.” The _UV branding is at odds with the advantages of the vehicle.

  • avatar
    walker42

    I would sure like to see Apple buy Tesla or a significant share in a deal that retains Musk somehow. He gets a pay out for his hard work and risk and keeps some skin in the game. Capital for future development and expansion suddenly becomes a non-issue. The brands go together like Pepsi and Taco Bell.

    Imagine how well integrated the user interface would be, they’d be years ahead of everyone else in terms of getting a self-driving car to market.

    Apple is smart enough not to over pay and honestly I think Musk would rather see Tesla in the hands of Apple than someone else at a perhaps higher price. An alliance of some sort would work too.


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