By on November 7, 2013

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According to my most recent e-mail from my rental car company of choice, I have rented exactly thirty-one cars this year. Thirty-one flavors of cars, everything from Altima to Yukon (Sorry, I haven’t rented any Lincoln Zephyrs this year). Up until this week, I hadn’t rented one of the more popular choices on any lot, and doubly so on the lots of South Florida: the V6 Mustang convertible.

Call me crazy, but I like to experience new things when I travel. I never eat at chain restaurants. I try to stay in boutique hotels when possible. I make it a point to hear local musicians. So when selecting rental cars, I prefer to drive something new to me, a preference which actually directly led to my own Ford Flex purchase last year after renting one in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

But when I arrived at Palm Beach International airport this week after a four and a half hour delay that had been caused by a faulty light bulb, I was in a particularly foul mood, as I suspect you might be if you had been expecting to arrive in Palm Beach at 3:50 PM and actually didn’t arrive until well after 9:00. After grabbing my bags and enduring a cramped shuttle ride over to the rental car lot, I was tired and cranky and I must have subconsciously wanted something that felt like home. And there she was, a brilliant 2014 Black V6 Mustang convertible, brand new with less than two thousand miles on the clock. It was almost like my Boss 302 had called ahead and lined it up for me.

“Why the hell not?” I thought. “I am in South Florida, after all.” I jumped in, grabbed the keys, and took off toward my destination, the Marriott Singer Island Resort and Spa.

This particular V6 pony was of the Premium variety. Full leather interior, leather wrapped wheel, Shaker stereo system, Sirius Satellite, SYNC, and even the optional illuminated door sills that said “MUSTANG” in bright blue lighting. My first thought upon entering the cockpit was, “Man, this is way more comfortable to drive than my Boss 302 is.” The Boss’ Recaro seats, while very supportive and great for high-speed driving, don’t necessarily inspire one to take a highway cruise. The leather-wrapped steering wheel was much softer to the touch than the alcantara of the Boss. I’ve gotten so used to seeing the “NO SATELLITE RADIO” message come up on my Boss’ radio display that I was pleasantly shocked to find that the Sirius subscription had not yet elapsed on my rental. Channel 67, Real Jazz, Freddie Hubbard. Fantastic.

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And then there’s the convertible top. The glorious, easy to use, smooth operating, convertible top. Palm Beach (at least the nice parts of it) was designed to be enjoyed with the top down. Despite the relatively chilly seventy-four degrees of the night air, I couldn’t resist the lure of the droptop button. Down it went at the first stoplight, and the entire Florida night sky opened up above me.
However, I was about to enter I-85 North from that same stoplight, and I knew that the car was about to disappoint.

You see, I’m used to having four hundred forty-four horsepower and three hundred eight foot pounds of torque at the ready. When one is behind the wheel of a Boss 302, there’s a nearly regal feeling that comes with knowing that you can merge at will, that virtually no car that you will ever encounter on the road will have the advantage on you at a stop light. It’s a nice feeling to have. Surely the 3.7 Cyclone wouldn’t measure up. Oh well-everything else about the car was nice enough.

Wrong. In terms of useable power and speed, the Cyclone did just fine. Sure, I can drop the clutch, smoke my tires, and attract the attention of local law enforcement in my Boss and post a four seconds flat zero-to sixty time and a mid-twelve second quarter mile. However, when I put my foot to the floor to enter the highway, the Little Engine That Could…Did. Only the hesitance of the automatic transmission to launch presented any appreciable difference in real-world acceleration between my Boss and the V6 ‘vert.
Once on the highway, the Mustang proved to be a stable chariot, even with intense coastal winds coming in from the Atlantic shore. Upon exiting the highway, it made for a remarkable side cruiser, attracting looks from all the pedestrians as it rolled slow and smooth down the street toward my hotel.

In the twelve miles between Palm Beach International and the front door of the Marriott Palm Beach Singer Island Resort, a distance not much greater than the test drive that your average Ford dealer will grant you, I made a stunning realization. There wasn’t anything that my Boss 302 does better in day-to-day driving than the V6 Convertible, and there were many things that, quite frankly, it does worse.

Now, before you accuse me of having lost my damned mind, allow me to retort…to myself. Of course I know that the Boss is much, much, much faster in any sort of motorsports scenario, whether it be the drag strip, the autocross, the road course…anywhere. Of course the suspension is better. Of course the motor is fifty percent stronger. The grip is better. The brakes are better. I know all of that.

 

But what about just driving back and forth to the airport? What about your daily commute to the office? What about cruising by the beach? I have to admit, there are days I’d rather have the comfortable seats, the satellite radio, the much improved fuel economy. And yes, the glorious droptop. Hell, the valets were even able to put my 27” suitcase in the trunk (with considerable effort, but it CAN be done). “You can no do this with the Chevy Ca-mahr-o,” my valet laughed.

Oh, yeah, let’s not forget one other huge thing-the price. I went to Ford’s website and optioned out a 2014 V6 Premium Convertible identically to my rental. The sticker? $33,497. The sticker on my Boss in 2012? $45.495. That’s a twelve thousand dollar difference. With Ford’s current cash on the hood and financing offers, that’s about three hundred and fifty dollars per month over 72 months, and that doesn’t take into account the savings on fuel economy and 87 octane gasoline.

In other words: if, by some chance, you still think the V6 Mustang is a secretary’s car, take it directly from the mouth of a guy who pony-ed up the cash for a Boss 302; it isn’t. It’s legit. I wouldn’t trade my Boss for one, but would I trade my Boss for one and twelve large in cash? Please don’t tempt me.

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68 Comments on “Bark’s Bites: Oh, No, I Think I Might Have Bought the Wrong Mustang...”


  • avatar
    raph

    Watched a sixxer a few weeks ago put down 295 HP to the wheels with your typical bolt ons in cool but humid weather. Not to shabby for a secretary’s car.

  • avatar
    krhodes1

    I don’t see how any car with 300hp could ever be considered slow. A V6 Mustang is on the short list for my next toy car in a year or so, once I have had my fun with my Abarth.

    I too had a Flex rental in Grand Rapids last year. Liked it, but not enough to buy one.

  • avatar
    DC Bruce

    I rented one of these in Seattle last summer, except it wasn’t the Premium version. Had pretty much the same reaction as you. The engine has a nice exhaust sound at speed . . . and if you don’t cane it, the mileage is really stunning.

    My only beef is that the car seemed very large to me . . . but then I don’t drive a Boss at home.

    • 0 avatar
      imag

      I agree on the size impression. I rented a V6 convertible and it felt like a giant boat. In my mind, that doesn’t feel sporting at all.

      This article just convinced me that the Boss doesn’t feel any smaller, track suspension or no.

      And unfortunately it looks like they haven’t pared much off the 2015.

    • 0 avatar
      fincar1

      Yeah, those things are big, bigger than the 71 Mustangs that people used to hate on because they were too big.

      • 0 avatar
        jhefner

        I bought a diecast model of a Mustang, and placed it next to my diecast model of a Sable/Taurus wagon. Except in height, it is roughly the same size, with a longer nose canceling out the shorter trunk. I thought “that can’t be right”; but looked it up on Wikipedia, and it is:

        1986 Ford Taurus Wagon – 191.9 in long, 70.8 in wide, 106.0 in WB
        2013 Ford Mustang – 187.6 in in long, 73.8 in wide, 107.1 in WB

  • avatar
    Øyvind Birkeland

    I had the exact same car in white as a rental in Miami this summer and I have to agree with you, it’s more than fast enough. In 2007 I had the Hertz Mustang GT-H convertible for a weekend, and from what i can remember the ’13 V6 feels faster than that ’07 GT-H with its older V8.

  • avatar
    jz78817

    the next Mustang I get will be a convertible. was thinking about it when I got my 2012 but I didn’t want to plunk down the $7k premium for the droptop. since mine’s already paid off I’ll have enough in trade value to justify it this time.

  • avatar
    E46M3_333

    “You see, I’m used to having four hundred forty-four horsepower and three hundred eight foot pounds of torque at the ready.”

    What’s with spelling out the numbers? Why not 444 and 308? You’re only supposed to spell out numbers when they are less than ten (or is it 10)?
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  • avatar
    Aquineas

    Hahahaha! Welcome to 30 (big assumption on my part, I know). We’ve all been there.

  • avatar
    Scott_314

    Nice article.

    Pick a southwest city, and rent a convertible Mustang. Best damn holiday you can get for a reasonable price.

  • avatar
    stryker1

    This is the reason that I traded my 3.8 Genesis Coupe in for a Volkswagen Golf. I realized that the only time I actually enjoyed driving it was driving to and from my friday-night guitar lesson, when I have the roads to myself. In day to day commuting, less is more.

  • avatar
    JMII

    One correction: you were on I-95 not I-85.

  • avatar
    DAC17

    Two things. First, I believe the torque in the Boss is “three hundred eighty” (380). Second, this piece raises the fast-becoming-current thinking that newer cars’ statistics sometimes overwhelm their day-to-day uses on the street. This is a classic example of how “only the base model” can really provide a great motoring experience, and that the Big Kahuna can be overkill for 98% of one’s driving.

    • 0 avatar
      JuniperBug

      I would argue that this has been the case for a long time. From 2002-2007 I drove a 100 hp car (from 1992), and was almost always the first one through the intersection off a green light, cruised as fast – or often, faster – than law enforcement would tolerate, and cornered considerably faster than pretty much anyone I encountered on the road. Modern cars, especially in North America, or so far overspecified for their purpose it’s ridiculous. You see Germans cruising at 120 MPH in their 2.0L diesels, getting over 30 MPG in the process, and you have to wonder why we need a big V-6 or 8 to drive down to the store. It’s nice when you can afford it, but many of us can’t, but do it anyway.

      • 0 avatar
        This Is Dawg

        Exactly. I drive my Mazda faster than 99% of cars I see, including all the SRT8s near my work that stay at exactly the speed limit. I’ll take my fuin and my cash, thank you. In fact I know 3 people that have gotten the loaded 2014 6 and all they do is mope about how it doesn’t live up to their expectations given their monthly bills. I still smile every time I step out of the office and look at my base model that performs exactly as well as theirs for 10k less.

        That being said, great article! I love this site for the writers’ ability to step back and say “Yes badass is badass, but for those of you that have already read the hype, we can actually admit that overlooked cars can offer just as much fun as the beasts you lust over.”

    • 0 avatar
      Bark M.

      You are correct. My “Y” was lost somewhere in editing. :)

  • avatar
    racer-esq.

    “I wouldn’t trade my Boss for one, but would I trade my Boss for one and twelve large in cash? Please don’t tempt me.”

    You are comparing a loaded convertible. In reality, an considering actual transaction prices, the question is whether you think the Boss is $25K better than a Mustang V6. $22K better if you want to throw in the performance pack.

    Pro-tip: If you get the base Mustang radio it never says: “NO SATELLITE RADIO”.

    • 0 avatar
      racer-esq.

      Actually, strike that, buy a another Boss. Or a Shelby. Maybe a Shelby convertible. We need to keep this b*tch profitable so that Ford keeps cranking out the base models.

  • avatar
    JuniperBug

    As addictive as acceleration is, in the real world it’s often more fun to cane a slow(er) – you can’t honestly call a 300 hp Mustang slow – car than constantly be feathering the throttle in something fast that doesn’t have the room to stretch its legs. I keep trying to justify spending the money to turbocharge my car, but I can’t get around the fact that I’ll just be more of an idiot with it, it’ll cost a lot of money, and once I get used to the new power, it might not even be more fun. The funny thing about speed is that you tend to get used to it, and need more in order to keep the thrill alive; I have memories at 21 thinking that my <4 second 0-60 motorcycle felt a little sluggish.

    And being able to drop the top makes everything better: 60 MPH feels faster, traffic jams have you looking up at the clear sky (or, even better, the stars and moon under a clear night), and you soon find out that temps in the 70s aren't "relatively chilly." I keep my top down until nearly freezing temperatures. Just put on a jacket and crank the heater. Rain? As long as you can sustain speeds above about 45 MPH, just raise the side windows and nearly all of it goes over you. It's a great feeling. And if you get sick of that, just raise the top.

    I can't believe what a good deal the Mustang is these days. A well-sorted 300 hp hardtop competes on price with a 200 hp Scion FR-S. Two different cars, to be sure, but it's pretty awesome to have that choice at the mid-20s price point.

    • 0 avatar
      juicy sushi

      Very true. The modern market has a ton of great cars for sale at the affordable levels, and I’m finding the “premium” market less and less interesting. Bigger turbos and badge snobbery do not provide sufficient premium, and aren’t real world fun.

    • 0 avatar
      DAC17

      Funny; it’s taken me the better part of 40 years of driving to figure out this concept…

  • avatar
    jacob_coulter

    I also always wrote off the V6 Mustangs as chick cars, but I drove one of the newer ones and was thoroughly impressed.

    300hp vs around 220hp for the 5.0 of the 80s-90s. I will say though the resale value is a lot better for the V8s, so from that angle, it probably makes sense to buy the more expensive model if you’re buying new, but I can’t wait till they get dirt cheap on the used market.

    It will probably never get the respect it deserves, but it is amusing that 99% of the legendary Mustang muscle cars of the late 60/early 70′s would get smoked by a V6 Mustang rental car.

    • 0 avatar
      jz78817

      very true.

      but no six has anything approaching the sound of a V8.

    • 0 avatar
      racer-esq.

      If a Mustang V6 is a “chick car” (not a great term, and this is coming from a guy that got attacked for making a pussy joke about the Hello Kitty Mirage*), then anything with less than 305 HP, RWD and a 6-speed manual is even more of a “chick car”.

      Anyway, the Shelby GT500 is by far the gayest Mustang. $60K? Talk about a highly educated/high income/no kids demographic.

      *It’s different, if I was a female auto enthusiast “chick car” would really piss me off. While I would be like obviously the Hello Kitty Mirage is the most pussy anyone is going to get with a Mirage.

  • avatar
    Madroc

    Can the B&B weigh in on the ‘vert v. hardtop conundrum as a DD? My next car will probably (almost certainly) be a 2014 Mustang and I go back and forth. The big issue holding me back on the ‘vert is that while I park in a garage at work, I park outdoors at home, and we get one or two meaningful snowfalls a year where I live. I’m worried about the top holding up. Everything else I’m pretty sure I could live with.

    This article also got me back to thinking that if I go with a ‘vert (which I would not be able to track anyway) I really should go with a well-equipped V6 instead of a stripped GT. The GT is downright intoxicating but only for a few seconds at a time in regular use.

    My kids (6 and 3) really want a droptop and I know they won’t be little forever. Anyone ever buy a ‘vert and regret it? What say you all?

    • 0 avatar
      JuniperBug

      I’m about to replace the soft top on my convertible, and it is a non-trivial expense. For my two seat, manually operated top, aftermarket will set me back at least $500 plus labour (at least double that for OEM). That said, that car is now 15 years old, though admittedly has not seen winter use.

      If you really want a convertible, I think you should get one. Over the long term, the extra maintenance expense is fairly small relative to the cost of the car, and the joy of dropping the top will make it worthwhile. Even with the occasional snow, I wouldn’t be surprised if you got eight years out of the original top. As long as you maintain it, and don’t raise and lower it in freezing conditions, it should be fairly robust. A visit to a Mustang forum will probably give you a good idea what to expect.

      I initially wasn’t a convertible guy. I bought my car based on the fact that it was an inexpensive-to-buy-and-own driver’s car, that just happened to be a convertible, but I enjoy it every time I drive it. If topless driving is for you, and you’ve already got the kind of coin to get yourself a newish Mustang, you owe it to yourself to give it a try.

      • 0 avatar
        duffman13

        I did the top on my S2000 the month I bought it; it had a not insubstantial tear that I used in the bargaining process while purchasing. The top plus install cost me total $1100 out of pocket. Being that it was a 10 year old car that amortizes out to $110 per year to budget for a new top. All things considered, that’s not too bad. As I plan to keep this car as a third car until it either dies or is totaled, that’s a maintenance item I can happily budget for in the future. Having the top down in the spring, summer evenings, and fall is worth it.

        As an aside, a clutch job is $8-900 as well and I’ll probably see the end of the original clutch in the next 3-5 years. I go through a $600 set of extreme performance summer tires and a couple sets of brake pads a year as well from HPDE wear. It’s not a fact of if a repair comes up, it’s a factor of when, knowing your upcoming expenses and budgeting accordingly. The way I use it, my S2000 requires on average $150 a month of pre-paying for wear and maintenance items. Since I know ahead of time, it’s in my budget and there are no surprises.

    • 0 avatar
      racer-esq.

      I would expect the Mustang convertible top to be very durable, and cheap to repair. Is canvas on option on the V6? Back when I was looking at 2012 models you had to get the V8 to get the canvas, which does look better and probably wear a bit better than the vinyl.

      One issue is that the drain channels are VERY sensitive to debris. When I was looking at used current generation Mustang convertibles two of them had water accumulating on the rear floor (not visible, but damp carpet) because of clogged drain channels.

      Also, while the Mustang coupe is clearly a better performance car than the Camaro coupe, if you are looking for a convertible (and therefore willing to sacrifice some performance anyway) you may want to consider the Camaro. I consider the Camaro convertible nicer than the Mustang convertible. It has a more solid ride, and, while this is a small thing, has the canvas top standard.

    • 0 avatar
      Dave in Toronto

      I have daily driven a convertible to work 8 months of the year for the past 12 years: 1993 Miata supercharged, 2002 Miata 6spd. I also drove a 1993 MR2 turbo with t-tops before those. I have driven them all in snowy conditions.

      Today I drove top down to work. 5 degrees C. This is normal for me.

      I park my cars outside when in use, inside a garage over the winter.

      I have had both cloth and vinyl tops.

      I don’t think you will have any structural snow load issues.

      A glass window is a big bonus when colder – in winter bad things can happen to plastic windows, or at least used to. Brittle. Breakage. I don’t know what the Mustang has and it’s much more modern than my experience even if it is plastic. But when glass you can have defrost.

      The cloth tops are nicer but in my experience don’t stand up as well over time because they fade, because they wear through marginally faster, and because if they are not black they are (even) harder to maintain – they get dirtier.

      They all get dirty, even if you obsess over cleaning the car. When black, not a big deal. My current top is tan vinyl – never again.

      Vinyl is harder to fold in colder weather than cloth – both up and down.

      New tops seem to me to be very nice to live with when up – actually, I have a bolt on hard top for my current Miata but prefer the soft top, it’s actually quieter. This was not the case with my ’93.

      Every convertible I’ve ever had dripped rain on me when I opened the door, I suspect they all will – no drip rails.

      But – The biggest consideration is that you can’t shoulder check your left blind spot with most convertible tops – the rear window isn’t wide enough. Driving home in the dark you will really have to develop skills using your side mirror.

      Would I give mine up?

      No sir, I would not.

      It’s the only way to enjoy a sporting car.

    • 0 avatar
      Mandalorian

      It is mostly geographic. I live in a place where I could really only put the top down 3 months out of the year. For me the cons of a convertible outweigh the pros. If you live somewhere like Souther California or Florida, the pros probably outweigh the cons.

      Coupe:
      Less moving parts, less to break
      more rigid
      better resale value
      harder to steal
      no leaks, drafts, etc.

      Convertible:
      Nice days with top down
      easier to steal
      prone to leaking/drafts
      top may need replacement
      worse resale
      chassis like a wet napkin

      • 0 avatar
        JuniperBug

        Where do you live where you can only enjoy the top down 3 months out of the year? Both Dave in Toronto (presumably in Toronto) and I in Montreal enjoy ours upwards of 8 months out of the year. I remember having a nice top-down drive on December 5th last year.

        Too much rain?

        As to leaks, drafts: my 15 year old car has neither of these things, and the soft top isn’t what keeps me from driving it in winter, either (salt ruining the body does). Anyone who believes a convertible to be too cold in the winter underestimates the heating systems of modern cars. Yeah, close to freezing, the heater can no longer keep up when the top is DOWN, but top up? Don’t give it a second thought.

        “Chassis like a wet napkin” is a gross exaggeration. Does my car flex a bit? Yes; you notice some cowl shake over bumps. It’s also 15 years old and weighs 2300 lbs. A Mustang will be better, and believe you me, on public roads with stock suspension and mere-mortal drivers, any extra chassis flex won’t be the deciding factor over whether a soft top or hard top will get through the twisties faster.

  • avatar
    sideshowtom98

    I grew up in Florida, and live in California. I got my first ever convertible 3 years ago. I was leaning toward a 3 or 6 series, but then decided I should combine 2 lifelong daydreams, and got a Corvette convertible. The only regret I have was waiting so long. You can’t take it with you, enjoy it in the here and now.

  • avatar
    cpthaddock

    This discussion speaks to my ongoing conundrum over whether I’d be better off with exactly one of these mustangs than my current fun car, an ’08 Miata PRHT 6MT GT (whew, that’s a mouthful).

    The main issues revolves around my wife no longer being able to enjoy driving it because of the 6MT and back issues. On the other hand I’ve lost count of the number of comments I’ve read from former Miata owners who regret replacing theirs. How much would I miss the go-kart hooliganism it inspires versus the broader usability and greater utility for my wife who, after countenancing the whole concept of an additional “fun” car surely deserves to be able to have fun with it herself.

    On another point mentioned, just like the author it was experience of renting the Flex that ultimately lead us to choose to buy one. This in turn has done a great deal to rehabilitate the standing of Ford vehicles in our family.

  • avatar
    Kendahl

    If you want a Mustang to drive for a few years and replace with something else, the V6 is a fine choice. If you plan to keep the car until it qualifies as a classic, it really should be a V8. One of the special models, like the Boss 302 or GT500, would be even better.

  • avatar
    agent534

    I had a V6 Stang as a rental recently, it was also an auto and I was more than impressed. I went shopping for a few weeks, but after learning a rear facing car seat won’t fit in the back, I had to put an end to the search :( for at least a year and a half.
    I’m not looking for a big rear seat, just enough to secure a child seat in, even if the option was for a deck that fit the seat instead of seats, and left the front passenger seat usable I would be in.
    Cars.com tried to fit a few seats: blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2012/02/2012-ford-mustang-boss-302-car-seat-check.html
    Looks like I can keep saving until I can go front facing :)

  • avatar
    jbreuckm

    Bark’s point is valid.

    The biggest question in my mind is the future value. V6 Mustangs are basically disposable commodities while a Boss has a much higher chance of holding value in the future if your holding period is that long. In the interim it may depreciate slower, maybe.

    But for every-day driving, yeah, Bark’s point is right on. I’ve mentioned this before, but I went from a V6 performance package to a GT, and the GT is more comfortable in everyday driving than the V6 PP was.

  • avatar

    But, but, but… the motorsport experience! The overheating on track!

  • avatar
    sgtyukon

    Wait! How do you manage to rent a Mustang convertible? Whenever I go on a rental car website, they advertise “Mustang or similar” for convertibles. When I reserve one, I always get the “or similar” which is always a Chrysler 200. That car is cheaper, heavier, less powerful and gets worse gas mileage even though it has two fewer cylinders. I’ve asked more than one rental agency to explain how that’s similar. Not a single one has yet done so to my satisfaction.

    Last year on vacation, I reserved the Mustang and got the Chrysler. They did have Camaro coupes (also V-6), but they wanted $20 a day above and beyond the price of the Mustang Convertible for the Camaro.

  • avatar
    ajla

    Even though I can think of very few situations where I will be going over 112 MPH, just knowing that my 305hp car can only go that fast because of its driveshaft would bother me quite a bit.

  • avatar
    Acd

    Bark you are in the perfect position to enjoy your Boss 302–travel during the week and drive marshmallow rental cars and then enjoy it on the weekends. For an everyday car a V6 Mustang with 300+ HP could be an excellent choice. Maybe the solution would be to keep the Boss and get a used Panther for trips back and forth to the airport. There’s this guy who is really into racing and who has a couple of Porsches who has a Town Car………..

  • avatar
    DrGastro997

    No thanks to the new Mustang. I rented one when in Detroit with some hopes of having a drive that excites. I was very wrong. I don’t understand all the hype. Every component feels and operates cheaply. Does Ford have problems holding tight tolerances? Many of the interior’s cheap polyurethane plastics were crooked. The gaps between trunk and body differ from left side to the right side. Highly noticeable. The Mustang may have some muscle but it has absolutely no brains. I was never happier returning the car back to Hertz. I flew back to Chicago, jumped into my 2010 911 and never felt so much better!

    • 0 avatar
      brenschluss

      A rental Mustang’s fit and finish can’t measure up to that of a Porsche 911? Say it ain’t so. Realistic expectations would have gone far in helping you enjoy the experience.

    • 0 avatar
      racer-esq.

      If only Porsche put as much into engine development as it does into having guys on the line beat on hinges and brackets until the panel gaps are minimized, people wouldn’t be sitting around waiting for IMS failure.

  • avatar
    Number23

    Hmm… I have a 2012 Boss 302 and I find it to be a very comfortable cruiser. I recently drove it from my home in NW Georgia to Hilton Head (about 6 hours) and neither my wife or I were the least bit fatigued by the drive. Just set the shocks to 1.

    Satellite radio or a USB input would be nice though.

  • avatar
    Ryoku75

    Let me ask something to fans of the new Mustang, if you took a Shelby GT500 Mustang and switched the V8 for a V6, would the handling improve any?

    • 0 avatar
      raph

      Not really unless you wanted to retune the suspension. Even with the current all aluminum engine the Shelby still has to contend with an extra 250-300 pounds over the V6 and a suspension designed to address that additional weight and weight distribution.

      I think the biggest benefit to this hypothetical V6 Shelby would be steering response, over all handling less so.

  • avatar
    salguod

    “Despite the relatively chilly seventy-four degrees of the night air, I couldn’t resist the lure of the droptop button.”

    74 degrees chilly? You’re kidding, right? One December day last year I heard the high was going to be around 74 degrees, so I decided I could get in one more droptop day. I pulled the cover off the T’bird, put the top down and drove it to work. It was 42 on the way in that morning, and it doesn’t even have functional heat.

    Chilly 74 degrees.

  • avatar
    brenschluss

    So a V6 Mustang with a basic Procharger kit makes about 475hp, apparently. This for about 30k if you go for the Death and Destruction package, or whatever they call it, which sounds necessary because they mention brakes and you’ll definitely need those. Can even still get a warranty, it seems.

    F*** me.

  • avatar
    rpm

    The Premium V6 convertible is a fine rental car in a nice climate. But after a week in one last summer I uncovered a few big flaws… In particular the worst steering wheel ever put in a performance car. Ever.

    You can read my impressions on my blog, The Cars of Ralph.
    http://thecarsofralph.blogspot.com/2013/07/rental-car-review-2013-mustang-v6.html

  • avatar
    jim brewer

    The 3.7L is really terrific. Put some no-lead premium in it. It feels like it makes an extra 10hp or so. 7K redline (OK, really revlimiter–Ford knows its customers) As best I can tell, the engine weighs about 350 pounds, and I understand it will fit under the hood of the Miata. From what I’ve seen, I believe it.

    I’ve decided I like that muffled “angry hornet” sound just fine.

    Some people have this infantile idea that only a V-8 should go in a ‘Stang, but they probably also object to the idea that the 3.7L turns the ‘Stang into a mid-engine car (as per this blog).

    I don’t even believe the V-8 will be any more collectible some day. Too many of them are already tucked away in garages getting minimal use, waiting to be collectible. That makes them about as collectible as a coin from the Franklin Mint.

    • 0 avatar
      burgersandbeer

      Why is preference for a V8 infantile? It doesn’t matter to me that the v6 performs just as well in the real world. I like the v8 soundtrack. It’s what changes the mustang from a good value with strong performance into a muscle car.

      I don’t think the V6 is blasphemy or anything, if that is what you were getting at. I’m all for choice, and I’m glad they make it. The sound of the V8 would be tough for me to give up though.

      I don’t think I’m a potential customer for either version anyway. I can put up with a larger car or a car without much interior/luggage space, but not in the same package.

    • 0 avatar
      raph

      The SE cars maybe but a GT Mustang really doesn’t see that sort of sheltered life. I don’t really know of any Mustang owners that purchased their GT’s as a collector car nor SE owners, with the exception of one Shelby guy who still modified his car and likes to show it, the rest of the Shelby crowd I know have messed with there cars in some fashion for increase performance ( me included, I’ve swapped suspensions and added a bigger blower as well as full exhaust ). Same goes to the Boss owners as well. They get used and abused regularly.

      Most Mustangs don’t remain stock for long nor are they gingerly treated unless the car was bought as a retirement gift.

  • avatar
    Compaq Deskpro

    “Despite the relatively chilly seventy-four degrees of the night air”

    Errrgh

  • avatar
    mdensch

    As much as you liked that rag top I think you’d like mine even more: a ’13 V-6 Performance Pkg with the 6-spd manual. And it stickered at $4000 less than the convertibel.


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