By on October 29, 2013

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Fiat is now the proud owner of VM Motori after acquiring the remaining 50 percent of the diesel engine maker from General Motors for $47.1 million.

The first half of VM Motori was purchased by Fiat in 2010, with GM exercising a put option to purchase the remaining half. VM Motori now supplies diesel engines for the forthcoming Jeep Grand Cherokee and Ram 1500 EcoDiesel – an engine originally developed for the European Cadillac CTS.

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29 Comments on “Fiat Buys VM Motori From GM...”


  • avatar
    Wiedowerz

    Shouldn’t it be a “call option”? A put option allows you to sell stock, not buy it.

    • 0 avatar
      drewtam

      Yeah that sentence is confusing. Maybe the writer meant GM exercised its Put option to sell the remaining half to Fiat.

      Or maybe you’re right, maybe Fiat has a contractual Call option to buy the rest of VM.

      Either way, it probably needs a little editing for clarity.

    • 0 avatar
      ect

      The article is poorly written

      GM exercised a put option to require Fiat to buy the shares.

  • avatar
    ash78

    I think I’m turning to stone just looking at that thing.

    • 0 avatar
      Hummer

      Reminds you of a early emissions strangled engine wrapped in vaccum lines no?

    • 0 avatar
      drewtam

      If it makes you feel any better it looks like almost all of those lines on top are fuel supply and returns.

      2 high pressure lines (chromed for display) coming from the v-twin piston pump (mounted on the front, laying over on its side) going to the two common rails tucked into the valley of the Vee.

      And low pressure return lines (black hose) feeding back from the injectors to the high pressure pump.

      Turbo is hidden from view in the rear.

      High pressure loop EGR cooler is on the left side of picture, also chromed for display (right hand side from engine POV). EGR coolers require water flow, so there’s some more large lines for that. Mounted in the front of the cooler is a glossy black valve controlling how much EGR flows into the center mount intake manifold.

      Hanging off on the right hand side of the picture what appears to me to be a crankcase ventilation filter/oil separator.

      Add a DOC/DPF/SCR/AMOX system into the exhaust and this thing will be capable of meeting any of the most strict emissions regulations that currently exist while delivering pretty good fuel economy, good power, and very fast engine response (assuming an engine development team that knows what they are doing).

      If you don’t like clean emissions tech, then contact your congress critter to repeal or amend the clean air act.

    • 0 avatar
      mike89

      Larger pictures of that engine here : http://www.allpar.com/mopar/V6/VM-RA-diesel.html

  • avatar
    RobertRyan

    I suppose you will get the “RAM Powered by Fiat” from other makers Fanboys, but VM Motori make reasonable engines.It would appear that FIAT the Corporation has several areas of diesel development and manufacture. Itself, VM Motori, IVECO and CNH

    • 0 avatar
      Silvy_nonsense

      The FIAT-based trucks are going to be sold in the U.S. under a new brand called “Small Goat”.

      • 0 avatar
        RobertRyan

        @silvy-nonsense
        FIAT based Trucks are not small they are as big as Freightliners.
        http://www.iveco.com.au/images/TrakkerSlideshow/TrakkerSlideshow3.png

        • 0 avatar
          Silvy_nonsense

          Iveco trucks aren’t FIAT based any more than Freightliners are Mercedes based. You do understand that the Iveco New Stralis Hi-Way class 8 tractor isn’t based upon the FIAT Panda, right?

          Even so, the new brand is still called “Small Goat”.

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan

            @Silvy-nonsense,
            A Lot of Mercedes and other Daimler DNA is in Freightliner Trucks. One of the things Daimler has done is had a fairly restrictive vertical integration of its global products. From memory, Mercedes, Freightliner, UD and Bharat Benz trucks.
            IVECO used to be called FIAT trucks,
            “”Small goat” I thought you were taking the mickey out of my post.
            What is this brand going to include?

    • 0 avatar
      Johannes Dutch

      The Fiat diesel engines for anything bigger than a car, like Iveco and CNH, are FPT engines. (Fiat Powertrain Technologies)

      http://www.fptindustrial.com/en-UK/Pages/HomePage.aspx

      VM Motori diesel engines are in cars, Jeeps and in the Ram 1500.
      Their 3.0 V6 for example is in the Lancia Thema (a rebadged Chrysler 300C), the Jeep Grand Cherokee, the Ram 1500 and the new Maserati Ghibli.

    • 0 avatar
      Les

      This greatly concerns me.. as a Diesel powerplant supplier, Fiat is in direct competition with Cummins, a company that Chrysler has spent Decades turning into a household name with their use of Cummins engines in their Diesel powered Ram trucks and it has paid-off in spades. Around here, people who couldn’t tell you the names used by Ford or Chevrolet for their in-house Diesels still covet the Cummins.

      Oh, this conflict of interest is going to be sooo awkward.

      • 0 avatar
        RobertRyan

        @Les,
        I think FIAT wants to eventually replace all the Cummins sourced Diesels in its lineup. Makes sense to have all the diesels “in house”
        If the VM Motori engine gets a good reputation in the RAM, then expect a larger FIAT diesel in the RAM HD Pickups

        • 0 avatar
          Les

          That’s what I’m afraid of, and would be a BIG Mistake.

          Sergio is already getting flack from MOPAR purists that he ‘doesn’t Get the company he bought’, if there’s any truth to that I could see him doing just such a thing.. but it would still be a mistake.

          Chrysler spent decades marketing the Cummins name, people who know Diesels like and trust Cummins.. people who DON’T know diesels like and trust Cummins. Now, Sergio has that kind of brand cache For Free essentially, and is poised to cast it aside because vertical supply-chains look prettier on spreadsheets.

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan

            @Les,
            Sergio is determined to make FIAT Diesels instead of Cummins as the brand to reply on. Outside the US there is a lot of competition in the Diesel field.

          • 0 avatar
            Les

            @RoberRyan

            Yes, I know. That’s why I know about the conflict of interest.

            I also know that RAM’s primary market is still the United States, and no way will the American Market stand for ditching ‘Cummins Dependability’ for ‘Fix-It Again Tony’.

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan

            @Les,
            Expect a determined PR spin on the Diesels from Sergio and Chrysler. He will emphasizing the Chrysler and RAM aspect not the diesels that power them.

          • 0 avatar
            Big Al from Oz

            @Les
            There is no conflict of interest. Fiat more or less own Ram. Why would you use a product from an outside business?

            Iveco make a 5.7 litre inline 6 diesel that could be slotted into HDs.

            Chrysler didn’t make Cummins what they are. Cummins diesels kept HD Ram pickups alive.

          • 0 avatar
            Les

            @RobertRyan

            It won’t end well. There’s still a sizeable portion of the market that buys RAM trucks exclusively for the Cummins engine, they’re likely to buy Nissans soon.

            @Big Al from Oz

            The conflict of interest is that Fiat wants to promote it’s own engines but they have product from Chrysler that moves largely from using a competitor’s engines.

            And Chrysler DID make Cummins a household name, taking them from a pure commercial-grade engine provider to a name that was on almost everybody’s lips that was interested in consumer-grade diesel engines.. this in turn sustained the Ram HD trucks throughout the 90s and 00’s to today.

            At least in the US. I don’t know so much outside the market about what Cummins/Fiat mean for commercial diesel save that they do compete in the same market, but if Sergio throws Cummins under the bus to further integrate his supply lines on the back of Fiat being a trusted commercial diesel producer abroad the US market will take that as a sign that Sergio is abandoning them.

  • avatar
    Conslaw

    Call me a killjoy, but I like clean air. My vehicles go faster than I am qualified to drive them, they get better fuel economy than ever before, and they last longer than ever before with less maintenance. I don’t think the Clean Air Act is a problem.

    • 0 avatar
      Silvy_nonsense

      Anyone who has a problem with the Clean Air Act needs to spend some time in Shanghai. We are lucky to live in countries that have learned the hard way what happens when we all just run amok.

      • 0 avatar
        ExPatBrit

        Last year I purchased a a British classic sports car as a toy. It’s almost 30 years old .

        It’s fun but even when it’s perfectly tuned the exhaust fumes are pretty stinky. The fuel and crankcase vent system are not sealed so there are always some residual fuel or oil smell.It maybe gets 30mpg which considering it’s only 70bhp and under 2000lbs is pretty pathetic.

        Even though my commute is short, no way could I daily drive it.Fiddling with choke etc.I drive it maybe 1000 miles a year, it makes you realize how far cars have come.

      • 0 avatar
        drewtam

        Nice straw man take down. Very effective.

      • 0 avatar
        Les

        Anyone who thinks people with a problem with the Clean Air Act are whining over nothing needs to spend some time in Atoka County Oklahoma, where the skies are as clear now as they were in 1975, which were as clear then as they were in 1875; Then go and see if you can find someone to service your modern EPA-compliant diesel in a reasonable time-frame, at a reasonable price, within a reasonable distance from your home.

        ..pick ONE.

  • avatar
    RHD

    Coming soon: a new Ram diesel pickup, powered by Chevrolet!

    • 0 avatar
      Les

      I’ve been to the Cummins website and they Do produce road-going diesels in the displacement ranges that could serve the same niche as the V.M. Motori engines, for the European market. That Cummins is breaking from it’s comfort-zone of inline-configuration powerplants to build a V-8 for Nissan doesn’t make it sound like they’d put up much of a fuss if asked to convert those already-existent engines to US-spec.


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