Editorial: The Mob Mentality, The Unwise Brag, The Witch Hunt

Thomas Kreutzer
by Thomas Kreutzer

By now everyone with an interest in any kind of motorsports has had a chance to view the terrifying video of an innocent New York City family surrounded and then attacked by a gang of motorcycle riding thugs. Every one of us has placed ourselves behind the wheel of that Range Rover, our wife beside us, our infant daughter in the back seat and thought about what we would have done had we been the head of that family under siege. What happened there is an unconscionable act of mob violence. It was precipitated by the stupid actions of a single motorcyclist and made worse by the general attitude among riders that it is “them or us” out there.

I have always thought that motorcycling is an individual endeavor. I grew up in the country and I didn’t know anyone who rode when I purchased my first street bike. I learned about the sport through the magazines and by actually going out and riding. It never occurred for me to seek out other riders and so I had almost a decade of real, on-the-road riding experience when I first logged onto AOL back in the mid 90s and found their motorcycle chat room. It was, to say the least, an eye-opening experience and it was the first time I ever spoke to other riders about things like gear, safety and how to avoid accidents. Thanks to my hard-won experience, I had a lot to share but I learned a lot too. As time passed and the internet expanded, I found Usenet and Yahoo groups and eventually forums like Sportbikes.net.

By 2006, I was a regular contributor to and moderator of the New Riders’ Forum on the website Sportbikes.net (SBN). In the interest of full disclosure allow me to say that although my actual participation in discussions on the site has waned over the past few years, I still have close friends among the moderators there and that SBN, like TTAC, is a Verticalscope owned website. Unlike TTAC, which is an article based news and discussion website with a staff of editors, writers and automotive reviewers, the primary focus of SBN has always been its message boards. It is a lively place and SBN’s members come from all walks of life. Despite our differing socio economic status, levels of education, professions and politics, one thing united us: a love of motorcycles. It was then, and still is, a great place to talk about bikes.

Although the forum I was charged with managing was not one of the most active on SBN, it was the first stop for many people serious about getting into the hobby. We always encouraged new guys and gals to start small, use all the gear all the time and gradually build up their level of experience before jumping to higher powered bikes. Sometimes people were unhappy with our staid, conservative approach and we were taken to task by those who had started big and been just fine because they “respected their bike.” In the end I would like to think that those people who followed our advice had a better sense of the fundamentals than those who ignored us and that perhaps we saved a few lives.

The other thing we always told the new folks was “Ride like you are invisible and remember that everyone in a cage is trying to kill you.” We repeated the phrase so often it became a sort of mantra. It’s a useful metaphor because it helps grab a new rider’s attention and lets them know what is really at stake when they are out in traffic. But sometimes, I wonder if our efforts weren’t too successful because it seems to me that many riders have the attitude that they are constantly under attack. Because of that, they tend to respond violently to any perceived threat.

The internet is an odd place. Protected by the anonymity of their username and from the comfort of their own homes, where they sit in warmth and light with full bellies, tablet computer in-hand, in front of the TV with their wife beside them and their pets or children frolicking at their feet, people say the damnedest things. It’s even worse when they are among their internet friends, in their own familiar forums where they imagine that they are sitting in the smoking room of some old-fashioned men’s club, cigar in one hand whiskey in the other, surrounded by wood paneling and with the trophies of some long ago African safari mounted upon the walls they let their words flow too freely. People forget that a forum is actually a “public space” and that their most obtuse comments can be intercepted, stripped of their context, copied and rebroadcast to people outside of the club. When those words land, sans their humor, tone and context there can be hell to pay. So it was when a man named John Parks posting as a user named “technoweenie” on his own familiar forum, crownvic.net, announced to the whole world that he purposely caused motorcyclists to wreck.

The message, which was part of a conversation about a you-tube video of a motorcyclist known as the Ghost Rider who stunted around Europe, read: “…Changing lanes is not illegal. I do the same thing to cars all the time when they are being dumb and try to pass me at 20 over. If they hit me, guess what, their fault. And yes, some people on bikes deserve to die. I’ve witnessed several bike accidents ’cause the driver is just plain dumb.”

Later he followed that up with: “I have done many stupid things. Speeding at 90 mph kills, end of story. Last I heard, your license is gone if you’re going 90mph, so it’s not just speeding. That is reckless, and I can’t remember the last time I did something reckless and put people’s lives (or my own) in danger. ”

The first few messages were quickly picked up by other members of Crownvic.net who also happened to be motorcyclists and those people ended up linking to them on several biker forums. The message hit SBN on Feb 23, 2006 at 9:26 PM. By 11:02 SBN members had identified and posted the man’s email address. By 11:24 they had the VIN number to the car in question and the man’s Ham radio license number. By 11:41, they had identified the name and address of the company the man owned, an operation called “Pursuit Technologies” that sold light bars and other technology for police cars and then figured out that the car in question was actually a demo unit for the company and that it was outfitted with lights and other police gear which made it appear, despite the lack of official markings, to be an official police car.

At the behest of SBN members who lived in the region, the local news got involved and reporters showed up at Mr. Parks’ home with cameras in tow. They produced a story about the man with the “fake police car” and when they challenged him about the comments, he actually admitted he had written them. The police became involved and launched an investigation. One of SBN’s members created a special website, Johnparkssucks.com to track the progress of the investigation and on and on it went. In the end, the police investigation came up empty-handed and no one was ever able to attribute a single hit and run accident to Mr. Parks or his police lookalike Crown Victoria. A year later, johnparkssucks.com was taken quietly down and the whole incident faded away with a wimper.

So, what is the moral of this story? That people in groups, acting in the heat of the moment can do stupid things. Although no one in the SBN episode was physically injured or attacked, John Parks suffered for his thoughtlessness. He had his name – which I used here because it remains part of the public record of the incident – blasted all over the internet, his face splashed on the TV and the specifics of his job, hobbies and life made public. I am sure that, to this day, wherever he lives, John Parks lives in fear of the retribution of a sportbike community he did not actually harm. His mistake was being insensitive and he made his situation worse by shooting off his mouth in an internet forum where he felt too comfortable for his own good.

The world has moved on and the videos of John Parks’ interviews have fallen off the far side of the internet after going un-clicked upon for years. The original thread on Crownvic.net that started all the trouble has now vanished and only SBN’s thread, complete with its snippets of the offending original posts still exists. It sits today, 82 pages long, as a testament to one man’s thoughtless braggadocio and as an example of how a group of people with righteous intent was able to stir up a real-life hornets’ nest over something that, in the end, amounted to nothing. John Parks was stupid but we were over-reactive. It ended up as a witch hunt and, looking back on it now, I can see that no one comes out of it looking any better than anyone else. There is a lesson there, I think, for all of us.

Thomas Kreutzer currently lives in Buffalo, New York with his wife and three children but has spent most of his adult life overseas. He has lived in Japan for 9 years, Jamaica for 2 and spent almost 5 years as a US Merchant Mariner serving primarily in the Pacific. A long time auto and motorcycle enthusiast he has pursued his hobbies whenever possible. He also enjoys writing and public speaking where, according to his wife, his favorite subject is himself.

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  • Carrya1911 Carrya1911 on Oct 09, 2013

    mnm4ever: "What bothers me is the comments about how the rider got what he deserved, that they wished he had run over more of them, and most importantly, that some of you would do exactly the same thing that the RR driver did if you were in this situation. THATS my problem here." I have encountered multiple situations in my life where someone or a group of someones was trying to cause me severe injury or death. If I believed that a gang of people was going to, say, drag me out of my car and assault me or do the same to my family, I would ABSOLUTELY resort to lethal force. Be that a firearm or the gas pedal. I say that with certainty because *I've used lethal force before in defense of myself and others* and wouldn't hesitate to do so again if I felt it was necessary. If someone puts my life or the life of my family in jeopardy, they absolutely "deserve" what they get because...and this is the key bit...*I'm not the one breaking the law.* What you do not seem to be processing here is that the Range Rover driver wasn't in the wrong. No one seems to be able to come up with any evidence that the driver of the RR did anything illegal prior to being surrounded by bikers, or prior to the accident they caused. It doesn't matter if he gave them the finger or tried to go around them. There's no law against flipping someone the bird and there's no legal obligation on the RR driver's part to stick behind what the NYPD has now classified as a *ROLLING RIOT*. "And I don’t have to read his mind to know there are always choices to be made." Having more experience being in life or death decisions than you, and having more experience analyzing the life or death decisions faced by others than you, I'll simply say you are making statements behind the safety of a keyboard. Life looks considerably different when you aren't the one in the middle of the danger. I have experience inside and outside the danger. I know the difference in perspective that comes with that change. You, I'll wager, do not. "Your background I assume is some sort of law enforcement, and if so that most likely skews your judgement because you deal with criminals and scum all the time. You are not even close to objective." Neither, then, is a cardiac surgeon. He deals with cardiac problems all the time, so he can't possibly be objective when he's presented with an issue involving a patient with a cardiac problem, right? All his learning and experience on the topic biases him. You'll note that the NYPD has been charging the bikers with crimes...not the man in the Range Rover. Even, now, charging an NYPD officer who actually participated in the assault. Why? ***Because that's what the evidence shows*** The driver of the Range Rover? Still no charges for him. And none will be filed because as I've said time and time again: He has a perfectly reasonable, easily explained case for self defense. Every action he took was to AVOID the rolling riot filled with criminal actors. He was in fear, a perfectly legitimate fear, and acted REASONABLY in response to that fear. "But I don’t go through life assuming the worst of everyone around me because of one random incident in 40+ yrs" I didn't *assume* anything. I watched a video of a group of law-breaking bikers chasing down someone, repeatedly trying to assault him, and then cutting off the video right before they committed a bunch of violent felonies. Drawing conclusions based on evidence and experience dealing with criminals is not assuming the worst of everyone around me. I have some experience dealing with use of force and violent criminal acts both in court and on the street and that experience gives me a perspective on the video *you* lack. There are probably topics where you have a better command of what's going on than I do...but this isn't one of them. The difference is when those topics come up I'll hold my peace rather than try and argue something that doesn't exist into reality. "And on top of that, the bikers posted the video. If they were out there terrorizing innocent people intending to harm them, then why would they post that video??" The bikers posted an EDITED video, one that cut out the part where his buddies dragged the guy out of the car and beat him. And your question of why shows your lack of experience dealing with the criminal. A friend of mine was working a riot at a university. He personally arrested a student who posted a video on youtube of himself hitting a police officer in the head with a half-full bottle of beer. Kylie Freeman's father videotaped himself repeatedly raping his ten year old daughter. One of the members of the Wonderland Club videotaped himself raping an infant in a hospital. You've probably never seen those videos...but I have. Rational people don't download those to a public library's computer and then masturbate to them in full view of the public and security cameras...and yet I've got footage of the whole thing happening. Youtube, Liveleak, and World Star Hip-Hop are packed to the brim with people videotaping themselves breaking the law. Again this goes back to your lack of experience with criminals: You assume they are rational actors. You assume this because you've never sat across the table from someone who tortured someone to death trying to skin them alive just because he broke into their house and found them lying on the couch asleep. Not to get money, not to settle a score...but just because they could. You literally don't understand the bikers who assaulted this guy. They are a different creature than you are used to dealing with. You don't deal with these creatures much because there are guys like me who work hard to keep them in a cage. Maybe instead of arguing with the zookeeper you would be better off listening to what he has to say about the creatures you see on occasion, but that he lives with and watches day to day.

    • Mnm4ever Mnm4ever on Oct 09, 2013

      I am not arguing with you, or your experience, or trying to make the bikers out to be wonderful human beings who were just misunderstood. You continue to focus solely on what was legal and illegal, which, given your background, makes complete sense. But you keep missing my point entirely. The bikers are being charged for the assault because what they did was illegal. Even if my scenario played out exactly as I said, the chase and assault was still illegal and they need to be charged. That was illegal no matter what happened earlier, and I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT here. The part I do not agree with is your assumption that during the part in the video where us regular people cannot even see what is happening, the bikers are terrorizing the RR driver to the point where he had no choice but to run people down to get out of there. There is no evidence that this is the case. Even with the followup charges so far, the only "evidence" we have is what the wife says, and even that is not clear as to the timeline of what occurred when. Everything is focused on the chase and beating, which happened after he ran the guy over. Even everything you bring up is from AFTER he ran over that guy. You are most definitely making an assumption that he was justified in taking that action in the first place. I have no doubt the RR driver was scared, but I believe he was scared because he knows he pissed off these guys and then accidentally hit one of them and knew he was going to get his ass kicked, so he took off. I am certain he never intended to run that guy over, not for a minute do I think he did it on purpose, and shouldn't be charged for it either. Its legal, but that doesn't make it right. And yes, I KNOW it isn't illegal for the RR driver to piss off a bunch of glorified street racers, but if you do and they kick your ass for it, then IMO you deserve it. And that guy didn't deserve to get maimed over it. And that is why this is NOT an example of the best possible outcome to the situation. So you are relating these bikers to psychotic killers and rapists that you apparently deal with every day, and therefore are making the ASSUMPTION that the RR driver was completely justified in using lethal force to leave the scene of an accident. I am saying that in real life its significantly more likely that this was a road rage incident gone bad, with terrible consequences to one guy who, if his story is true, is probably really sorry he stopped to go help. You can relate shocking stories of crazy people all day long, but to any reasonable, objective person, my scenario is a hell of a lot more likely than your scenario. I am done with this thread, we are clearly never going to agree on this one point. I may not face death every day like you do, but I hope that if I am ever swarmed by psycho killer rapist stunt bikers on a highway, I will somehow keep myself and my family safe without having to run any of them over first. And if you are finding yourself in life-or-death situations regularly that are not job related, you really need to find some new places to hang out.

  • Carrya1911 Carrya1911 on Oct 09, 2013

    And to further make the point: http://www.counton2.com/story/23629522/coroner-confirms-body-found-in-mt-pleasant-is-missing-man-from-beaufort The perpetrators were caught because they posted pictures of themselves driving the dead man's truck on their social media pages.

  • Eric Wait! They're moving? Mexico??!!
  • GrumpyOldMan All modern road vehicles have tachometers in RPM X 1000. I've often wondered if that is a nanny-state regulation to prevent drivers from confusing it with the speedometer. If so, the Ford retro gauges would appear to be illegal.
  • Theflyersfan Matthew...read my mind. Those old Probe digital gauges were the best 80s digital gauges out there! (Maybe the first C4 Corvettes would match it...and then the strange Subaru XT ones - OK, the 80s had some interesting digital clusters!) I understand the "why simulate real gauges instead of installing real ones?" argument and it makes sense. On the other hand, with the total onslaught of driver's aid and information now, these screens make sense as all of that info isn't crammed into a small digital cluster between the speedo and tach. If only automakers found a way to get over the fallen over Monolith stuck on the dash design motif. Ultra low effort there guys. And I would have loved to have seen a retro-Mustang, especially Fox body, have an engine that could rev out to 8,000 rpms! You'd likely be picking out metal fragments from pretty much everywhere all weekend long.
  • Analoggrotto What the hell kind of news is this?
  • MaintenanceCosts Also reminiscent of the S197 cluster.I'd rather have some original new designs than retro ones, though.
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