By on August 13, 2013

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Ahead of the Frankfurt show, Honda revealed their Europe-only Civic Tourer, a wagon version of Honda’s bread and butter compact. Notable features include a Fit-style “Magic Seat” (that can be folded in multiple ways for maximum cargo carrying) and a tailgate that swings up extremely high – something that will likely be an issue in low underground garages. The Civic’s rivals include established players like the Skoda Octavia, Ford Focus and Volkswagen Golf. But Honda is hoping that class-leading cargo capacity and distinctive styling will be enough to entice new customers.

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49 Comments on “Honda Civic Tourer Debuts For Europe Only...”


  • avatar
    sirwired

    I like wagons, but I don’t like this one. It looks like a better effort at a wagon than the CrossTour, but I’m not a fan of how the body widens to make the rear quarterpanel glass even smaller.

    I can see that this one has more space than the Civic Sedan, but with how much the rear swoops down, how much more?

    • 0 avatar
      See 7 up

      The rear doesn’t drop down that much. The upper line on the rear quarter glass is a design element that makes it seem like it does. Look closely at the actual roof-line and you can see that, although it does taper down, it doesn’t as much as the design language suggests.

      Personally, I’d prefer a slightly bigger rear quarter glass as I like big greenhouses, but that seems to be the opposite of where all car design is headed – high beltline, small glass.

  • avatar
    TonyJZX

    i’d agree – this isnt that cool but its ok as far as hondas go

    theres a heap of cool looking wagons that the euros get

    try the 2013 skoda octavia vrs wagon

  • avatar
    DeadWeight

    The new Honda Civic Tourer. Styling by Stevland Hardaway Judkins.

    Because YOLO.

  • avatar
    mkeenly

    Honda is in trouble. They’re out of good ideas.

    The first thing I thought when I saw the photos of this vehicle was ‘CrossTour Part 2′.

  • avatar
    gslippy

    The back seat options are pretty neat, but they could probably include that in the sedan, too.

    • 0 avatar
      psarhjinian

      They don’t because the sedan has a very different rear suspension; it’s fully independent versus the Fishlake torsion beam in the wagon.

      Our Civic is generally a better car in every way excepting cargo space, versus the European model

      • 0 avatar
        theonlydt

        That’s not exactly correct psarhjinian – “on paper” you might label the sedan as better than the hatchback, but 5 minutes driving one and you’ll realise there are many differences.
        The European Civics have a much higher quality interior, they also have either a stiffer body, or higher quality suspension components and sound-proofing. A European Civic hatch feels significantly more solid. It is also more space efficient, with a completely different floorplan (clever rear seats etc – in the new tourer the load height is incredibly low).
        That said, the JDM and US sedan has fully independent rear suspension and is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper. I don’t know US exchange rates, and local taxes etc, but what the entry level civic in Canada is $19k (after taxes, delivery etc), in the UK the entry level hatch is $27k.

  • avatar
    azmtbkr81

    I wonder which customers Honda is hoping to entice, former dust-buster van owners perhaps?

  • avatar
    Goatshadow

    That is one incredibly ugly car. Hello wildly overdone fender flare lines! And the driver’s legroom looks more cramped than a Stratos.

  • avatar
    theonlydt

    Important facts:

    Station-wagon – check.
    Standard transmission – check.
    Small (and larger) capacity diesel engine – check (1.6 and 2.0).

    That’d seal the deal for me. Things not so good:

    - Available in Canada – nope.

    Things commentators will care about:
    - Available in AWD – nope.
    - Available in brown – nope.

    Sorry Honda Europe – a near miss.

  • avatar
    Mark MacInnis

    Me likey.

    If they ever import it to USA as an Acura….I’m in.

  • avatar
    CJinSD

    http://www.hotink.com/wacky/05_ani.gif

    The packaging is nice. Only a BMW designer could love the styling though.

  • avatar
    Kenmore

    I get it… Asian insect motif.

    This should slip through tiny gaps in traffic and parking lots like a roach through compost. Sleek and skittery.

  • avatar
    Richard Chen

    There’s a Youtube video for this but it doesn’t embed

  • avatar
    Nostrathomas

    Its funny how many times I see a new car and think “hmm, it could be nice if they only got rid of all the cladding and styling crap”. The same thing here…it’s just over-styled for no reason. What’s the point of all that crap? I don’t care about having enormous rear fenders. I care about things like rear-visibility…which in this case is almost nonexistent.

    • 0 avatar
      segfault

      I agree, the rear visibility looks awful.

    • 0 avatar
      Nick_515

      You know, I kinda like it. In a “I don’t dislike it” sort of way. Sure, too many things are clearly off, including visibility. But they’re trying something here, other than the traditional station. Squished Mazda5 comes to mind. They’re reaching out. Yep, I’m glad they did it.

    • 0 avatar
      EquipmentJunkie

      I told my friends that calling it the “Honda Civic Blindspot” would be fitting.

      I am not sure how the styling will translate to the real world. The Crosstour and the current Odyssey didn’t work well in my opinion.

  • avatar
    FuzzyPlushroom

    I wouldn’t mind it if it had rear side glass. This is a panel van, not a station wagon.

    The overstyled, oversized wheel arches… well, I guess I could forgive those.

    • 0 avatar
      segfault

      I think it has rear side glass. The first pic looks like it’s a painted steel panel, but if you look at the exterior pic with the hatch open, you can see it’s glass. At any rate, the rear windows are way too small.

  • avatar
    Jesse

    They couldn’t bother to give us rear glass?

    Lazy.

  • avatar
    Prado

    That is about the ugliest wagon I have ever seen. Rising belt lines may make sense on a sedan where they are trying to visually transition to a higher trunk deck, but on a wagon or SUV it is unnessesary and flat out ugly. In contrast, google… 2014 Honda Jade. A very atttractive small wagon with a great greenhouse.

    • 0 avatar
      Kenmore

      I googled the Jade.

      My God, son, how can I apologize for my generation screwing up so badly that you now think that’s a “great greenhouse”?

      I don’t know which is more insulting with these f-ing squashmobiles… cervical vertebrae compaction or claustrophobic occlusion.

  • avatar
    stuntmonkey

    I like the current UK Civic 5-dr, minus the blacked-out nose, of course. This is essentially the Fit Shuttle treatment for the Civic, but yeah, the Fit does it better.

  • avatar
    AJ

    It’s not exactly pretty, but I could see opting for the wagon over the sedan.

  • avatar
    Acd

    Oh my. This is one time when I’m glad we don’t get everything they do in Europe.

  • avatar
    nguyenvuminh

    This will be a European market model. Station wagon, micro minivan really do well over there. The US market won’t buy these station wagons or the micro minivans.

  • avatar
    JMII

    With a little bit of Photochop work we could see what a new Civic hatch would look like. And think that’s the whole problem with this design. It’s begging to be a two door, much shorter vehicle. More along the lines of a Veloster.

  • avatar
    mkirk

    The first picture looks like the rear quarter glass was a body colored panel in which case I was excited as a simple circle window via the aftermarket could have revived a long dead and great concept in the Pinto Touring Wagon style but alas, it is just a crappy wagon you can’t see out of.

  • avatar
    Wheatridger

    Yup, this one must have the biggest blind spot this side of the Ford Transit Connect.

  • avatar
    henkdevries

    …and a tailgate that swings up extremely high…
    That is so nice! Not that I’m 6 ft 10, but after 20 years the gas springs don’t have enough oomph to raise the tailgate high enough and then I bump my head.

    • 0 avatar
      Mark MacInnis

      Talk about picking nits…..if you own a car for 20 years, you’ve saved enough on car payments to be able to afford the $50 for new gas springs for the hatch.

  • avatar
    spreadsheet monkey

    With the ninth-generation Accord not coming to Europe, the Civic Tourer (and the CR-V) will be the biggest vehicles in Honda’s range over here.

    I can’t imagine it’s much fun being a Honda dealer in the UK or Europe at the moment.

  • avatar
    Fordson

    This is what happens when you put a Toyota Venza that is supposed to be washed and dried with the delicates, through on “Cotton-Sturdy” instead.

    Why can’t Japanese design have the decency to die off like British electricals? Japanese quality is to John Lennon as Japanese styling is to Yoko Ono.

  • avatar
    wmba

    Honda is floundering in Europe with sales on a constant downward trajectory. They have been forced to lay off employees in their UK manufacturing operations. This new Civic has already been dissed on Pistonheads, with people wondering why Hondas have such awful interiors, yet cost so much, and have no real performance. With sales so poor, Honda doesn’t have the money to produce Euro only models with decent interiors, leading to what looks like a vicious cycle.

    So Honda, in its wisdom, has decided to waste money on producing Formula 1 engines again, presuming that the Europeans along with everyone outside North America will be so impressed by their engineering prowess that the average buyer will once again see them as desirable cars. The reality is likely to be no change in sales whatsoever. The cars need to offer better value, something Honda may realize but seems unable to do anything about, or more likely are so self-proud that they are unwilling to change, much like their blind obeisance to the Acura beak grille.

    Don’t know what it’ll take for Honda to wake up fully because its been years that they’ve been stuck staring at their own bellybuttons like little children caught being bad who sullenly refuse to admit anything.

    Their one shining light has been that manufacturing quality has held up so far. The rest is a bit of a shambles.

  • avatar
    theonlydt

    ^^^^ What he said.

    I was a Honda man in Europe, had a 98 Civic and a 99 Accord. Designed and built in the UK – bulletproof and if not class leading, then close to class leading in how they drove (the Accord was the class leader imho). My parents had three civics and a Jazz (Fit), my sister has a Jazz, my other sister a Civic. When looking at new cars now Honda does nothing for them – they’re all converting to Skoda mostly. If I was still there I’d probably find myself in a VAG car.

    In North America – Honda still aren’t performing like I think they should. I’ve been totally underwhelmed by the new Civic, the new Odessey and some of their other offerings. I’ve not driven the new Accord though. Mazda have replaced them for my “scrappy little Japanese car maker that’s fun to drive”, and I’d buy Nissan, Mazda or Ford over a Honda.

    They really need to figure out what they’re doing. In my humble, honest and completely ignored opinion of course ;)

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    I very much agree, I was really impressed visually with the Hondas I saw in Ireland. Here they look plebeian and “beige”.

  • avatar
    mies

    This looks like Inpsector Gadget’s car.

  • avatar
    Wodehouse

    It looks like a Prius variation. I want to see Honda incorporate some of the design themes from the Gear Concept into their production models, especially the front end.


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