By on August 27, 2013

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Car and Driver released renderings of the next Lincoln MKS aka Project GOBI aka the Lincoln flagship supposedly inspired by the 2002 Lincoln Continental concept. We spoke with someone well placed, and they provided us with some further insight. Apparently the rendering is not entirely accurate.

For starters, the car will be based on the current CD4 platform the underpins the Fusion, not the Volvo-derived platform underpining the current Taurus and MKS.  The belt line and C-pillar will be more subdued and flat, rather than the Impala-like hump you see here. The rear will have two light bars and the front grille will be integrated into the hood. Certain details are apparently still in flux. Also, the Nano V6 mentioned in the article will be 2.7L rather than 2.9L.

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74 Comments on “Here’s Your New Lincoln Continental...”


  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    So basically it’ll look nothing like the Continental concept, and will be called the MK-CT or some rubbish.

    I’d be glad to see the ridiculous shelf-trunk go. They could never engineer that properly and the panel gaps and line-ups would be awful.

    • 0 avatar
      jpolicke

      I don’t know, the trunk arrangement looks like a neat idea to me. The pull-out ‘tray’ might be kind of unnecessary, but having the lid rise out of the way might add value. It would definitely add uniqueness, making the Lincoln more than just another version of a Taurus.

      You’re right, though, I have no confidence that Ford could mass produce this properly.

      • 0 avatar
        CoreyDL

        In the image, it’s no further out of the way than could be accomplished with some nice struts. It’s just on a complex-breaking-often type hinge in the pic.

        • 0 avatar
          KixStart

          “In the image, it’s no further out of the way than could be accomplished with some nice struts.”

          That’s what I was thinking.

          And the roll-out tray will rob the trunk of some capacity. I’d rather have some stash pockets and D-rings to help organize the trunk and keep items from shifting. But I’m not necessarily representative of a luxury car buyer.

          Of course, if you’re really wealthy, maybe you never need to lift things out of the trunk, anyway. Somebody else does it for you.

          • 0 avatar
            April

            I image the type of people this car will be directed at (50+ making the big bucks) would be more appreciative of a conventional trunk that would hold two golf bags.

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    Also, the Nano V6 mentioned in the article will be 2.7L rather than 2.9L.

    Oh for the love of all that is holy please let the number of cylinders and the displacement be part of what is “in flux.” Needs to be a V8 with not less than 5 liters of displacement.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    BTW Derek – when you choose Lincoln under the “Find Reviews by Make” section, the description of Lincoln to the right of the large emblem is about Lexus.

  • avatar
    bball40dtw

    I thought the D-platform was on its way out? Hasn’t everyone been reporting that the Taurus and MKS are moving to CD4/Fusion platform? Every once in awhile, someone gets a wet dream and says the MKS will be Mustang based. C&D now says its going to be an updated D3/D4 platform.

  • avatar
    gslippy

    That’s not my new Lincoln Continental.

    • 0 avatar
      PrincipalDan

      http://www.mobsteel.com/ride_og.php

      Honestly if they just built this and put a modern fuel injected V8 and multi-speed modern transmission in it… Well I think you’d sell more of them than any Lincoln since the 80s.

      • 0 avatar
        Lorenzo

        Without the stow-and-go roof? I’d drop the full length center console too, and make it wide enough for three comfortably in the back seat, or two doing nookie. The whole reason cars took off was because you could do nookie in the back seat, it was more comfortable than the bed of straw in the back of the buckboard. No nookie in the back seat is a violation of all that is true and holy.

  • avatar

    Let me go to Ford and redesign the Lincoln Continental and Town Car and I guarantee you it will be a winner.

    I don’t even want the money.

    • 0 avatar
      bball40dtw

      I’m willing to take my chances with BTSR designing Lincolns…..and that frightens me.

      I don’t want to suggest you have poor design skills, but it can’t be that hard right?

      1) Make a car look like the Mark IX/X and Continental concepts.

      2) Use the Jag or Mustang platforms Ford paid for.

      3) Put the Coyote V8 in it

      4) Done.

    • 0 avatar
      Crabspirits

      “BTSR, you’re hired.

      Right this way sir. This is your design team.”

      Enter room with a large table. One guy is playing with those alphabet refrigerator magnets. He already has the “M” and “K”, and is swapping the third letter to see what looks best. One guy looks like he hasn’t slept in days. He is scribbling with crayons on a picture of a Ford Fusion. Every couple minutes or so, he screams, wads up the paper, and tosses it into a full wastebasket. One guy is edgy and hip. His lab coat has the sleeves torn off. A woman also sits at the table, browsing Amazon with her Iphone.

      “You have a budget of $503.50, I anticipate your results.”

      “Ahhhhh! NO!”, says the tired designer as he wads up the paper.

  • avatar
    stars9texashockey

    So the new Lincoln flagship will look exactly like a Hyundai Azera. 3 years later.

  • avatar
    MRF 95 T-Bird

    At least it is lower and leaner and looks less like a bloated whale. I see a bit of Hyundai Azera in the styling. Why can’t we have something that looks like a Lincoln. At least Cadillac is on it’s game.

  • avatar
    rudiger

    When they first saw the picture, did anyone else immediately think they were looking at the car from the next James Bond movie?

  • avatar
    Kenmore

    Creepy…

    These recent Lincoln articles always conjure remembrance of that newsreel footage showing a clapped-out, palsied H**ler shrinking into his coat-coffin as he reviews the 12 year-olds in his Volkssturm.

    If you inspect the frames with a loupe you can see T-34s and Kia Cadenzas in the distance.

    Oops… Early Onset Conflation again….damn.

  • avatar
    NoGoYo

    So it’s going to be front-wheel-drive and not offer a V8.

    That’s not a Continental. Try again.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      ++

      • 0 avatar
        NoGoYo

        The Mark VIII was not my favorite, but it was still RWD and V8 powered and thus still a proper Continental!

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          Until 1985, the Mark series was actually called the Continental Mark [insert Roman numeral], then Lincoln dropped it to (1) differentiate from the upcoming changes to the Conti and (2) be cool like that. Mark VIII will always be known to me as a Continental.

          • 0 avatar
            98 Mark VIII LSC

            Continental series Lincolns were built from 1938 to 1948. In 1955, Ford Motor Company chose to introduce a new personal luxury car as a successor to the pre-war Lincoln Continental. Ford chose to create a stand-alone division above Lincoln. The new Continental Mark II of the Continental Division adopted a naming convention of “mark numbers”, also meaning “version numbers” or “model numbers”; while used in the European automotive industry, this was also used to identify versions of artillery, tanks, naval vessels, and aircraft. The name was thus equivalent in original meaning to simply “Continental, version 2″ or “Continental, model B”, although the name “Mark” later took on a brand-like feel of its own in the minds of many customers. In 1958, the Continental division was integrated into Lincoln, with Lincoln introducing the Mark III, IV, and V to replace the Mark II; they served as the flagships of the Lincoln line. In 1961, Lincoln went from a three-model line to a single Continental; the Mark series was dropped. For 1968, Lincoln restarted the Mark series with the Mark III. Instead of being a flagship model of the standard Lincoln, the Mark III was an all-new car. Based upon the Ford Thunderbird, it was a strict personal-luxury coupe like the Continental Mark II and the 1939-1948 Continental, thus restarting the series at Mark III.While sharing little to no common bodywork, the Mark series would share much of its underpinnings with the Ford Thunderbird for its entire production run from 1969 to 1998. The lone exception is the 1980-1983 Mark VI, which was based on the Ford LTD/Mercury Marquis coupe and Lincoln Town Car; the Mark VI is the only model ever produced as a 4-door.The Mark VIII was Lincoln’s last personal luxury car, sold between 1993 and 1998. The Mark VIII was assembled at Ford’s Wixom, Michigan assembly plant and was based on the FN10 platform. Slightly larger than the Mark VII, the Mark VIII had more interior space than its predecessor and much more power @ 290 to 300 HP and 32 valve aluminum heads and much better handling. The move from the Fox platform allowed for the use of fully independent suspension at all four wheels. Aside from its Ford and Mercury counterparts, the only other American rear-wheel drive cars at the time with this feature were the Chevrolet Corvette and Dodge Viper. The Mark VIII received a minor exterior redesign for the 1997 model year with a larger grille and exterior lights. The 1996 LSC model got 10 hp (7.5 kW) more, true dual exhaust, lower (3.27) gearing and other luxury features. The 1996 LSC was the first car from an American automaker to be equipped with HID headlights, and the 1997 to 1998 models continued the groundbreaking lighting trend with even larger housings for the HID system, and an innovative neon third brake light across the entire rear deck lid. My 1998 Collector Mark VIII number 1149 of 1280 sold in the US is a surprisingly fast, comfortable, and one of the greatest performing cars I have ever owned. With 38,000 miles I am getting excited about getting it out of storage for my 16th summer with it.

      • 0 avatar
        bomberpete

        Nothing to see here folks, move along

    • 0 avatar
      Mark MacInnis

      Agreed. Lincoln Continental – V8 – RWD + FWD = Epic Fail.

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    “For starters, the car will be based on the current CD4 platform the underpins the Fusion, not the Volvo-derived platform underpining the current Taurus and MKS”

    So Ford, why should I buy or lease your Lincoln MK Not Continental if its just a bigger MKFusion? You guys in Dearborn just don’t get it, you’ll just steal sales from MKFusion and carbon copy what the MKS actually is at the moment to a new platform. You’ll spend hundreds of millions to accomplish nothing because you’ve fallen into the GM trap of “the next model will be so much better and it will save us”. I’m not a big fan of what they did to Cadillac but it did work, they built essentially one main somewhat kick-ass model and then slowly added others around it. You can Xerox the Fusion ONCE as a Lincoln but not repeat times, you’re not going to pull a K-car miracle here.

    Oh and with regards to the whole China thing, from what I read there is something of a Lincoln Continental mystique among some of the Asian cultures, this is evidenced by rolling out the Detroit iron for Dear Leader’s funeral in 2011. If you built a real Continental along the lines of the mystique it might take off in Communist China, and it wouldn’t even have to be a gas sucking land barge with no handling because lets face it the youth won’t be as interested in one of those. But I know just from working with folks in China they will not be overall impressed with a LWB MKFusion badged as a Conti, they’re not stupid. They like flash, but also demand substance and they’ll be paying high tariffs to buy your (initially) imported car. Really impress them and you’ll have buyers for life, as you’ve failed to impress people here in North America to buy your products new, even Lincoln diehards like myself.

  • avatar
    danio3834

    This doesn’t sound like anything particularly revolutionary or exciting for Lincoln, even if the C/D renderings are accurate. Cadillac’s current and future models induce infinitely more ‘want’ from me.

  • avatar
    SOF in training

    I thought TTAC was pulling a fast one on its readers. I stared at the picture for quite a while… wondering… then I noticed the oversized wheels and the air bag. Nope, this is not a show car from 1963.

    Sure could be though.

  • avatar
    SilverCoupe

    I was just looking at a beautifully restored 1958 Ford Skyliner a couple of weekends ago at a local car show. If they could engineer that back then, they should have no trouble engineering this kind of a trunk now [not that the Skyliner was ever likely trouble-free!]

  • avatar
    Superdessucke

    Build it in China and sell it for $19,999. That’ll revive the brand!

  • avatar
    Kyree S. Williams

    2.7-litre V6 engines are always cursed. Just ask Chrysler Group and Hyundai/Kia…

  • avatar
    Detroit-X

    Hey Lincoln, Chrysler called, they want their 300 silhouette back.

  • avatar
    el scotto

    So achingly close, but no Monte Christo. No V-8, No RWD. The trunk will be a love/hate thing. I like it, but make the slide out a key-fob controlled decision. Betcha you’ll leave it on slide out most of the time. The suicide doors are some great eye candy. How will they affect body flex and NVH? One can always hope.

  • avatar
    Lie2me

    No, no, no… Lincoln needs to make a Mark X on the Mustang platform here

    http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/60247/middle/phpycYfi0.jpeg

    Then an every day/Livery Town Car on whatever platform here

    http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/NEngineering/LincolnMKL.jpg

    Then maybe a flagship/halo Continental here

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mjtVCG1V_YE/UQgutBB2ziI/AAAAAAAAIJQ/wVTDdNc5voY/s1600/2011LincolnTownCar.jpg

    … but this concept Lincoln from 2002 isn’t enough

    • 0 avatar
      sgeffe

      The riff on the MKWhateverTheHellIsTheEquivalentOfTheFlex is especially interesting! The bottom one is a little too close to the 300; Fiatsler should build the Imperial concept that was out years ago. Price it just above the 300 SRT8, with every option known to mankind, plus bespoke options.

  • avatar
    myheadhertz

    Looze the trunk electro-mechanical nightmare and instead include a quality, high-powered, 12-inch sub-woofer as standard equipment.

    Snow country in winter – that trunk gimmick ain’t gonna fly.

  • avatar
    JaySeis

    Well, a new day at TTAC. I have to go to C and D to verify the veracity of TTAC “news”. Step it up or your going to be left behind.

  • avatar

    Hmmm. Suicide doors? If they made it a full -on abomination with AWD AND Suicide doors – I might be interested.

    I’m queuing up the 1970′s Roxy Music soundtrack right now…

  • avatar
    Chicago Dude

    Keep your eyes on the ball folks:

    “The belt line and C-pillar will be more subdued and flat”

    This is the part that matters. Really. A flat belt line. It will look like a proper, expensive, confident automobile.

  • avatar
    Ion

    I’m still disappointed that only the grille from the MKR actually came to be. I can accept a FWD conti the last gen was fwd, but it needs a V8 if only just to attract people who associate american luxury with a V8.

  • avatar
    Scribe39

    If you looked at an early to mid 90s Town Car, you knew it was a premium make (or supposed to be). Unless they again quit trying to squeeze premium out of low-buck platforms and engines, and spend the bucks to to it right, it will flop.

  • avatar
    bill mcgee

    I don’t see why the slide out trunk box should be so difficult to engineer – after all GM was doing this back in the early forties with the Chevrolet coupe pickup . I don’t think it was all that popular then and I believe it was dropped when the 1942 models came out .

  • avatar
    racer-esq.

    Every time I see the Continental concept I can’t help thinking how sad it is for Lincoln that the only real Lincoln for sale today is the Chrysler 300.

    Sure the Continental concept came slightly before the 300 concept. But Chrysler actually built the 300. And the second generation 300 looks even more like the car that Lincoln should be building.

    There is no way that Lincoln is going to get proper classic Continental proportions out of a transverse engine FWD platform. The slab sides, if used, are going to make it even harder to hide the bad proportions.

  • avatar
    reclusive_in_nature

    Wouldn’t it just be easier to take Australia’s Ford Falcon designs, convert them to left-hand drive, gussy up the interiors a bit, and call them Lincolns?

    I admit ignorance in regard to Australian Fords, but R&D for them must be paid for, isn’t it?

  • avatar
    Rev Doctor

    Suddenly it’s 1961!


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