Derek And Doug's Fantastic Crap Wagons: Mitsubishi 3000GT/Dodge Stealth

Doug writes:

Ah, the 3000GT: possibly the car that’s most commonly believed not to be front-wheel drive, even though it is. That’s an accolade it shares with the 1997-2003 Audi A8, by the way. And while both cars offered all-wheel drive versions, you’d never know the 3000GT did by looking at Atlanta Craigslist.

Indeed, nearly every 3000GT on Atlanta Craigslist is either a base model (161 horsepower – honestly) or an SL. The SL had 222 horses, but it was still no trackday monster since it weighed about as much as Skylab. (Not to mention the aforementioned front-wheel drive issue.)

All the 3000GTs on Atlanta Craigslist are also in tough shape – and by “tough shape” I either mean “needs work” or “automatic.” This 1994 model is both, offering both the four-speed auto and a wide variety of inexplicable graphics down the side. It’s only $1,000, but the ad says it “does not run.” Mileage is unlisted.

That one’s the low end of the spectrum. The high end is this ’97 model with the five-speed stick and only 87,500 miles, priced at $8,500. The catch: it’s still the SL, it still heavy and front-wheel drive, and – most importantly – it isn’t red. And red, ladies and gentlemen, is crucial to the 3000GT ownership experience.

It’s the same story in the world of Dodge Stealth, the 3000GT’s heavily aged mechanical twin. Don’t be fooled if an ad says it’s the “R/T” model: that designation doesn’t mean all-wheel drive or twin turbos. To get that, you have to upgrade to the R/T Turbo, of which there’s only one on Atlanta craigslist: this car.

I’m not much for modifying, but this thing looks pretty good. Only 60,000 miles, brand new clutch, well maintained, and clearly owned by an enthusiast, and only $8,500. But wait! What’s that I see in the background? Are those… palm trees? Ah, yes: the car is wearing Puerto Rico plates. So it’s $8,500 plus shipping, and the owner’s manual will be in Spanish.

The 3000GT/Stealth crop isn’t very desirable, sadly – and that’s true even if you go on pay sites like AutoTrader.com. The nice cars that are out there command big asking prices. And if there’s such a thing as a 3000GT/Stealth enthusiast, they probably get them. Assuming, of course, they have all-wheel drive and two turbos.

Derek writes:

Skyline. Supra. The Z-Car. RX-7. NSX. These are the Japanese sports cars that will forever live on in the hearts and minds of enthusiasts, no matter how many times they’re killed off and resurrected. The Mitsubishi 3000GT and Dodge Stealth never made it that far.

I have a vivid memory of the mid-1990s magazine ads showing the 3000GT VR- Spyder with its folding hardtop in motion. I had never seen anything like that before, and I wouldn’t until Mercedes-Benz debuted the SLK. Turns out nobody really wanted to pay $57,449 for a Mitsubishi, no matter how much the roof looked like a ’59 Galaxie.

Mitsubishi didn’t sell cars in Canada until the late 1990’s, but there seems to be a decent supply of 3000GTs in the Toronto area. There are no Spyders for sale locally, but there are VR-4 models with all-wheel drive, twin-turbo powertrains and 4000 lb curb weights. This 1992 model has less than 100,000 miles for just $6,800 and it’s an honest-to-goodness VR-4.

If an American car is too common, how about a real Japanese domestic market car, with right-hand drive, some careful engine modifications and a horrendous bodykit? These cars were sold as the “Mitsubishi GTO” in Japan, and obviously, a name change was required for North American sales.

Still hankering after a droptop? Well there is one alternative. It’s a Dodge Stealth, and there’s no folding hard top. I know you’re probably thinking “there was no Dodge Stealth convertible, who the hell is this know-nothing kid and what did they do with Niedermeyer?” but someone apparently went to the trouble of having a coach-built convertible conversion done to a Stealth. The lone flaw I can see is that it’s an automatic. The yellow-painted valve covers and the cornball chrome wheels are, in my opinion, the perfect amount of 1990’s kitsch that can let you get away with driving this car ironically. Or, look at it this way: it’s the same price as a base Elantra and only marginally faster.

Derek Kreindler and Doug DeMuro
Derek Kreindler and Doug DeMuro

More by Derek Kreindler and Doug DeMuro

Comments
Join the conversation
2 of 65 comments
  • Mrb00st Mrb00st on Jun 02, 2013

    It's so strange you say there are no 3S (3000GT/Stealth) enthusiasts, because i've personally known a coupe. 1) Kid i knew in Elementary school wound up being a huge 3S junky. He kept his first (1991 3k VR-4 5-speed) that he rebuilt and was putting 511bhp to all four wheels last I heard, in the high 11's. He bought, fixed up, drove, and sold (for a profit) something like 11 other VR4/RT-TT's over a couple years, basically putting himself through state college on the profit. 2) Guy I know here in NC has had 4-5 VR-4/Stealth RT/TT's, he knows they're unreliable shit and hard to find parts for, bitches about them, but he still keeps buying them.

  • ShadowCrawler13 ShadowCrawler13 on Nov 18, 2013

    I apologize to the 3000GT/Stealth owners on here who have had bad experiences. That hasn't been the case at all for me. Sure, tons of them have had the crap beaten out of them by idiot kids who treat them like the average POS Civic. When treated correctly, these cars can go well over 200,000 miles. I've had the chance to drive a VR4, and currently own a '94 base model (which has ~220hp, not 161. Common misconception.) I bought mine for $4,000, and it's perfect mechanically. The paint is rough in several places, but that's because the previous owner could have cared less about the body. :/ My car is the smoothest car I have ever been in or driven. The weight, though a lot (~3200lbs), smooths out the ride incredibly. At 100mph, you feel as if you might barely be breaking 80. The car is incredibly planted at any speed. Sure, they aren't the best in tight corners. That's because that's really not what they're made for. The GT (Grand touring) in the name says it all. This car is made for highway speeds, and will never be able to stick with Miatas and MR2s in the twisties. We don't claim it does though. Whether or not these reviews are made to portray the writers as complete ignorant assholes, do your research before writing an article about a car. The pathetic 'facts' in this article suggest to me a quick swipe of numbers from the first page of Google. If you've never driven or owned the car, please show a small amount of respect to those who do adore the car (no matter what vehicle it may be). And if you're looking for a community of 3000GT fanboys, try the 45,000+ owners at http://www.3si.org/ or even the people over here at http://www.3sgto.org/ . They all know their stuff, and would be more than glad to help you with research for an article that shows these cars in the proper light.

  • Douglas This timeframe of Mercedes has the self-disintegrating engine wiring harness. Not just the W124, but all of them from the early 90's. Only way to properly fix it is to replace it, which I understand to be difficult to find a new one/do it/pay for. Maybe others have actual experience with doing so and can give better hope. On top of that, it's a NH car with "a little bit of rust", which means to about anyone else in the USA it is probably the rustiest W124 they have ever seen. This is probably a $3000 car on a good day.
  • Formula m How many Hyundai and Kia’s do not have the original engine block it left the factory with 10yrs prior?
  • 1995 SC I will say that year 29 has been a little spendy on my car (Motor Mounts, Injectors and a Supercharger Service since it had to come off for the injectors, ABS Pump and the tool to cycle the valves to bleed the system, Front Calipers, rear pinion seal, transmission service with a new pan that has a drain, a gaggle of capacitors to fix the ride control module and a replacement amplifier for the stereo. Still needs an exhaust manifold gasket. The front end got serviced in year 28. On the plus side blank cassettes are increasingly easy to find so I have a solid collection of 90 minute playlists.
  • MaintenanceCosts My own experiences with, well, maintenance costs:Chevy Bolt, ownership from new to 4.5 years, ~$400*Toyota Highlander Hybrid, ownership from 3.5 to 8 years, ~$2400BMW 335i Convertible, ownership from 11.5 to 13 years, ~$1200Acura Legend, ownership from 20 to 29 years, ~$11,500***Includes a new 12V battery and a set of wiper blades. In fairness, bigger bills for coolant and tire replacement are coming in year 5.**Includes replacement of all rubber parts, rebuild of entire suspension and steering system, and conversion of car to OEM 16" wheel set, among other things
  • Jeff Tesla should not be allowed to call its system Full Self-Driving. Very dangerous and misleading.
Next