Question Of The Day: How Much Would You Pay For… Perfect Diagnostic Information?

Steven Lang
by Steven Lang

Flashes and pulses.

I was staring at an archaic diagnostic system on a 1992 Volvo 940 wagon. It was located underneath the hood, inside a plastic cover, with six little holes for each one of the six digits, along with a cheap plastic wand.

What came out was morse code. Three little reds, stop. One little red, stop. Two little reds, stop. Code 312. Time to visit the brickboard, where the code could be translated to about fifteen different potential issues.

21 model years later, and we’re still not quite there yet.

Not too long after my experience with Volvo code readings, OBD-II system would roar into the scene during the mid-90’s and seemed to change everything for the better.

Instead of having a shop that required an expensive tool du jour and a book full of possible translations, nearly everything became universal. Code P0420 would always a bad catalytic converter. Code P0301 became a random cylinder misfire for cylinder #1. P0131 would be an oxygen sensor with low voltage.

So what do you do with an oxygen sensor with low voltage? Well, the good news was that there were only three possibilities.


Causes


A code P0131 meant that one or more of the following has happened:

  • Faulty o2 oxygen sensor
  • Short to voltage on O2 signal circuit
  • High resistance or open on O2 signal circuit


Possible Solutions


  • Replace that faulty sensor!
  • Repair short, open, or high resistance on o2 signal circuit?

(Information courtesy of obd-codes.com)

Option 1 was simple and potentially expensive. Some oxygen sensors were cheap. Others not so much.

Option 2 could be cheaper… or even more expensive. You could buy the tool needed to measure the resistance. Then read up on how to determine if that 02 circuit is short, open, or high.

With option 2 you were always taking a gamble. You may have to pay for a good voltmeter and a new o2 sensor in the end. Or just the voltmeter.

Then there was the wealth of online information that either enlightened you or intimidated you when it came to figuring the whole thing out. Click here, here and here for a small taste of that experience.

For many enthusiasts out there, all this potential for misdiagnosis represented an “I give up!” moment, and a trip to the local independent repair shop.

The mind would wander, “Perhaps that oxygen sensor could just be loose, or defective. Or maybe the problem was truly beyond the confines of that sensor.”

Who knew? Not you.

The world of yesterday and today still has one link in the chain that keeps everything together. A good mechanic. An expert with knowledge and experience that can find the resources needed to zero in on a problem which is elusive to most owners.

But what if you could do diagnose it instead? With absolutely no question as to what needs to be done?

What if your car also monitored all the essential fluids and components that wear out over time?

Many of us have a good ear for a starter or alternator that is about to conk out. However, a rear main seal or a water pump may escape our attention as we travel from here to there.

How much would you pay for perfect diagnostic information?

Let me toss in another reality for you to consider? Hundreds of thousands of vehicles are exported overseas, in part, due to the high feature and option content of vehicles sold in North America. There are certain marques I routinely sell, such as Honda, Toyota, VW, and Mercedes, which continue to have a strong demand in overseas markets.

Would you be willing to keep a vehicle for 200,000 miles if such a system was installed on your vehicle for let’s say $750, in exchange for an extra $1500 at trade-in time? Let’s say such a system would also save you, on average, about $1500 in repairs and maintenance expenses as well. Not to mention saving a few of our resources.

It’s your call.

How much would you pay? Would you keep it for the long haul?

Is the offer I described attract the keeper side of your personality? Or is the temptation to trade it before that 200k mark simply too great? Feel free to exchange 200k for 13 years if you don’t drive much these days.

All the best… and happy new year!

Steven Lang
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  • SCE to AUX SCE to AUX on Jan 03, 2013

    One issue that's been overlooked is problems with non-engine systems. I won a lemon law suit on my former 05 Odyssey because the dealer couldn't keep its power sliding doors working, which had failed on Day One of ownership. The mechanics had replaced the entire power drive assembly, 'stretched' the wiring harness (whatever that means), and dented the rocker panel during 20 month of tortuous ownership, and we were generally lied to the whole time. I got pretty soured on dealer service during this episode, not to mention the myth of Honda quality.

  • Terry Terry on Jan 03, 2013

    Gslippy, in the last few years OBDII has included Body Control Systems, ABS/Traction Control, Electronic Power Steering, Transmission, Heating/ Vent/AC Systems, and others. For example: Power Lock not working in LR door--I can, via the OBD Diagnostic Data Link-- read the switches, motor, supply voltages, etc to operate the lock. Audio systems now have their own diagnostic procedure monitored via the radio display. These are Mazda systems I'm talking about, but I'm sure most manufacturers these days have similar systems in place on their vehicles.

    • Cabriolet Cabriolet on Jan 03, 2013

      I have owned VW's for the last 25 years. When OBD II came about i purchased a data cable that hooks between my OBD II port and my lap top along with a free program called VAG COM from a firm by the name of Ross-Tech. Over the years i have updated the data cable to handle the new Dual-K & Can cables of the newer VW / Audi vehicles and i can scan my entire vehicle in about 5 minutes. Not only will it tell me what is wrong it will tell me the part no. to goggle for the best price. The program also allows me to make computer adjustments and other changes to the vehicle. Total cost for this cable is now about $250.00. Free updates for life. I scan my car every year and if i have a problem and do not want to fix it myself i can tell the dealer what is wrong. Great system, any one with a VAG product should look into it.

  • Dave M. IMO this was the last of the solidly built MBs. Yes, they had the environmentally friendly disintegrating wiring harness, but besides that the mechanicals are pretty solid. I just bought my "forever" car (last new daily driver that'll ease me into retirement), but a 2015-16 E Class sedan is on my bucket list for future purchase. Beautiful design....
  • Rochester After years of self-driving being in the news, I still don't understand the psychology behind it. Not only don't I want this, but I find the idea absurd.
  • Douglas This timeframe of Mercedes has the self-disintegrating engine wiring harness. Not just the W124, but all of them from the early 90's. Only way to properly fix it is to replace it, which I understand to be difficult to find a new one/do it/pay for. Maybe others have actual experience with doing so and can give better hope. On top of that, it's a NH car with "a little bit of rust", which means to about anyone else in the USA it is probably the rustiest W124 they have ever seen. This is probably a $3000 car on a good day.
  • Formula m How many Hyundai and Kia’s do not have the original engine block it left the factory with 10yrs prior?
  • 1995 SC I will say that year 29 has been a little spendy on my car (Motor Mounts, Injectors and a Supercharger Service since it had to come off for the injectors, ABS Pump and the tool to cycle the valves to bleed the system, Front Calipers, rear pinion seal, transmission service with a new pan that has a drain, a gaggle of capacitors to fix the ride control module and a replacement amplifier for the stereo. Still needs an exhaust manifold gasket. The front end got serviced in year 28. On the plus side blank cassettes are increasingly easy to find so I have a solid collection of 90 minute playlists.
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