By on January 30, 2013

The stupidly named Kia pro_cee’d is going to get the Hyundai Veloster Turbo’s 1.6L 201-horsepower turbocharged 4-cylinder engine as part of a GT trim level. The GT will bow at the Geneva Auto Show – which TTAC won’t be covering, since the Swiss Franc’s relative strength will make even an espresso unaffordable.

The important question for North American consumers – will we get a Forte with this powertrain? Or an Elantra GT? We’ve heard hints from Hyundai that an upgraded engine is in the cards for the hatchback. This seems like an obvious choice.

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36 Comments on “Kia’s First Hot Hatch...”


  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    Wow really, pro_cee’d?

    They can have an AWD version called the pro_cee’d_w/caution.

  • avatar
    corntrollio

    Sounds stu_pi’d to me too.

    Looks like they were trying to crib the red GTI trim.

  • avatar
    tmkreutzer

    Stunning. What’s Korean for kawa-ii?

  • avatar
    Ryoku75

    Hot hatches are a bit too heavy and impractical these days, I’m not interested in power so much as space and nimble handling.

    Well, that and the term “sleeper” doesn’t apply to obviously sporty-styled hatchbacks. I doubt that we’ll get the hatchback since nice big openings are becoming taboo in the US.

    And yes the name is stupid, but so is the Daewood-inspired styling up front with a warped Peugeot side profile.

    • 0 avatar
      JMII

      My wife loves her Volvo C30 hot(ish) 3 door hatch. She claims her next car MUST be another 3 door hatch. The Veloster turbo is OK, but its got some odd styling choices, nowhere near as sexy as the C30 or Golf. I wish there were choices in this segment, but other then the Mini and the Golf what other options are there? At one point in the late 80s 3 door hot hatches were all the rage… now they don’t exist. My wife joked the 911 is a hatch, just not a hatch BACK.

      • 0 avatar
        CoreyDL

        You know I love the styling of the C30, the thing that turns me off of them is the interior. I feel that for the price, it’s not keeping up with how it should look inside, nor build quality.

      • 0 avatar
        fatalexception04

        Besides the golf and mini there’s also the speed3 or regular 3. I never liked hatches until my wife had a few. I gotta say I am really impressed. We get so much into her hatch compared to my sedan. I remember years ago I had an altima and she had an rsx. I couldn’t fit an old tube tv in my car, but that rsx had no problem. Also the speed 3 (first gen) and gti fit the “sleeper” term since it is very difficult to differentiate from the normal models. Therefore its sleeper status.

        The problem Hyundai/Kia has isn’t so much engines, but their suspension tuning. They want to compete with these “hot” cars but still can’t get their cars to handle as well as VW or Mazda or even ford in some cases. Until they put it all together its close but no cigar.

      • 0 avatar
        Ryoku75

        I’m curious if you meant to hit the “reply” button, but from some angles the C30 looks nice while at others it looks ugly, whatever it is it isn’t a box-Volvo, so no dice for me.

        I’d love to say that theres a decent Civic to choose but Honda killed the one iconic part of that car, the hatch option.

  • avatar
    dwford

    When we went for the product training for the Elantra GT, we were told not to hold our breath for the 1.6T to be an option on the GT. We shall see.

  • avatar

    If Magna can figure out a way to shoehorn in a Dynamax equivalent, make mine a six-speed five-door, just call it Forte:Fast. Please send keys, I’ll pick one up at my Kia dealer tomorrow. Cash.

    I’d love to see Kia come up with some sort of competition to Subaru’s Impreza hatch. 201 HP is plenty.

  • avatar
    Mykl

    Aside from the headlights, which are about a foot too long and too close to the a-pillar, that’s a good looking car.

  • avatar
    romanjetfighter

    Who buys these things? They’re based on crappy economy cars and look tacky as hell. Who uses a wagon these days? Get a Scion FR-S or whatever. Geez.

    Never going to Switzerland again. Only people who can afford to go are Japanese tourists and Brits. They wanted 8 Francs for 500 mL spring water, and this is at a yogurt shop. Strangely, rental cars are very cheap, including A5′s and stuff.

    • 0 avatar
      corntrollio

      “They wanted 8 Francs for 500 mL spring water, and this is at a yogurt shop. ”

      To be fair, spring water in Europe is actually spring water, unlike here in the US where the standards for being a spring are much lower. For example, Dasani in the US is nothing like Dasani in Europe, but 8 Francs sounds extraordinarily high regardless.

      “Strangely, rental cars are very cheap, including A5′s and stuff.”

      So they can get you to come visit and then pay for overpriced stuff.

      • 0 avatar
        romanjetfighter

        True, but it might be worth it if you’re under 23 or 21 and crazy enuogh to rent a sweet 3, 5, or X5 to drive (with spirit) along the twisty Alps roads and beautiful valleys for just $125, $185, or $240 a day, respectively (prices according to Sixt). Google StreetView used to have some good pictures along the road in Grindelwald, but I think they got taken down. =(

      • 0 avatar
        darex

        Your mistake: Next time buy your spring water at a supermarket like COOP (Swiss chain).

    • 0 avatar
      JuniperBug

      The trick is to be working in Switzerland, then life is great. I was 23 and working a “minimum wage” job in 2007 at 18 Francs per hour. Their idea of “the poverty line” is around 50k/year, but keeping up with their standard of work ethic and competence is tough.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        “I was 23 and working a “minimum wage” job in 2007 at 18 Francs per hour. Their idea of “the poverty line” is around 50k/year”

        I’m packing my bags.

    • 0 avatar
      darex

      FR-S is a pretty impractical car for everyday life. Hatches rule (even very small ones). Rear seats with pass-thrus are scarcely more practical than a trunk, and no match for a hatch when it comes to versatility. You wouldn’t believe the things I managed to carry in my MINI Cooper!

  • avatar
    ICARFAN

    A turbo Kia with a ten-year/100,000 warranty…..that should be interesting.

  • avatar
    daviel

    Looks good in white

  • avatar
    iNeon

    With no less than 16 lighting elements in the front fascia, how can this not _kill_ lesser cars? You know– those with only 5 or 8?

  • avatar
    Marko

    I hope it doesn’t inherit the Elantra GT’s bizarre proportions. That car reminds me of a Toyota Previa, and not in a good way.

  • avatar
    Speed3

    Looks pretty good–for a Kia. Actually I am impressed with how good Kia’s recent products are. Who wants to bet this Kia would be more reliable than a GTI (Google GTI DSG Failure).

    Still waiting on my Fiat Panda and/or “Buick” Verano 5 door aka Astra.

    • 0 avatar
      LeeK

      Oh for crying out loud. What GTI DSG failures? A couple of cranky owners who got a lemon? I’ve been following the VW forums for six years and there is no pervasive DSG issue. VAG has put their DSG transmission is a dozen Audi and VW vehicles over the past decade and other than abrupt shifting issues (fixed with software upgrades) and a bad batch of mechatronic units from Bosch in the early days, these transmissions are rock solid. Besides, you always have the choice of a manual if you’re worried.

  • avatar
    ZekeToronto

    Remove one superfluous kink in the rear side window and you’ve got a current-gen Scirocco (in profile) … which makes sense, considering where the design came from.

  • avatar
    jconli1

    I picked up a ’13 Rio base this past fall and have been impressed.

    As the once-owner of an ’89 Swift GTi and ’93 NX2000 among others, the Rio’s overall dynamics and ergos felt like home compared to its segment-mates. You can see where the money was saved (door trim and rear seats, for example), but where it truly counts (cockpit, controls, engine, handling), it is a very fun car to drive, especially for $13k.

    I’d love to see a turbo option for the 1.6GDI, boosting the Rio into true hot hatch territory as well (with 2 extra doors), but I also get a smile admitting that this lowly base LX would probably run circles around my old Swift (though not with the giddy lift-off oversteer the Swift handed out on command), and still get 10 more mpg… and has airbags…

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      So basically you’ve never owned a good car, is what you’re saying.

      BASE Rio? x.x
      Swift? x.x
      NX? x.x

      • 0 avatar
        jconli1

        You’re right… no one ever liked those old hot hatches… especially on the autocross track.

      • 0 avatar
        niky

        The Rio is, honestly, a good drive. A base Rio with a stick has a light, easy-to-shift transmission, a good chassis and good body control. Nowhere near as good as a Mazda2, but still lovely compared to an Accent or a Yaris.

        My only nit with the Rio (and with most current Kias) is the electric steering assist is vague and imprecise. Not the steering itself, mind you… it’s the assist action that really sucks. If the Pro-Cee’d gets the new variable setting steering that can be locked into “Sport” mode, then odds are it will drive pretty nice.

  • avatar
    Beerboy12

    It looks nice and I guess it will have competitive power but I wonder how it will handle? To me, any new comer to the hot hatch game gets the looks and power right but struggles with handling.


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