Fiat And PSA Taken Down A Notch By Moody's, Their Banks Are A Ticking Bomb

Bertel Schmitt
by Bertel Schmitt

Carmakers do get hurt when someone calls their cars junk. When Moody’s calls your credit rating junk, then this hurts a lot: It makes financing more expensive, or possibly impossible. Moody’s lowered the credit rating of Fiat and PSA Citroen Peugeot to Ba3 with negative outlook. Translation: This is serious junk, and it might get worse.

In a research note, Citibank analyst Pilip Watkins told investors that “the reasons for the downgrades aren’t likely to be a particular surprise.” The weak European demand and the inability of Fiat and PSA to compensate it with sales abroad are common knowledge. Nevertheless, says Watkins, “such low credit ratings for entities that are heavily reliant on debt market access are a real problem in our view and a disadvantage relative to peers.”

“The bigger threat, in our view, is what might happen to the rating of its Financial Services business Banque PSA that finances c.30% of group auto sales,” writes Citibank. Carmakers have access to cheap money through their captive banking arms. If these banks get downgraded as well, then there are huge problems. “Fiat has already moved its main European FS operations into a joint venture with Credit Agricole under the name of FGA Capital which enjoys a 3-notch rating differential to Fiat,” says the research note. PSA is more exposed. Says the note:

“Moody’s has traditionally retained a 2-notch differential between the ratings of Banque PSA and PSA. If it were to retain this (something that should become clearer over the next few days) then Banque PSA would likely lose its investment grade rating. That would severely compromise its business model, in our view, as we believe it would mean loss of access to short-term money markets which we don’t think could be fully substituted in ABS. It would also likely suggest higher funding costs for unsecured debt further disadvantaging it to peers. Of Banque PSA’s debt at end-H112 of c. €22bn, €3.8bn relates to short-term money market funding. Enabling a wider notching differential between PSA and its FS division we imagine would be difficult to achieve though without giving up some ownership of the FS business (the core of PSA’s value in our view). Some form of state support would also seem problematic too given potential objections from peers and the EU.”

Translation of the last sentence: Should Fiat or PSA get into worse trouble than now, they won’t be bailed out as easily as GM or Chrysler. EU rules forbid such bailouts, and the “peers” in Germany would cry murder should the rules be bent. Fiat has a lot of cash sitting in Chrysler, but can’t access it.

Bertel Schmitt
Bertel Schmitt

Bertel Schmitt comes back to journalism after taking a 35 year break in advertising and marketing. He ran and owned advertising agencies in Duesseldorf, Germany, and New York City. Volkswagen A.G. was Bertel's most important corporate account. Schmitt's advertising and marketing career touched many corners of the industry with a special focus on automotive products and services. Since 2004, he lives in Japan and China with his wife <a href="http://www.tomokoandbertel.com"> Tomoko </a>. Bertel Schmitt is a founding board member of the <a href="http://www.offshoresuperseries.com"> Offshore Super Series </a>, an American offshore powerboat racing organization. He is co-owner of the racing team Typhoon.

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  • Jimboy Jimboy on Oct 10, 2012

    And let's not forget that Moody's and other similar agencies are wrong as often as they are right. It seems to me that many of these people predicted the 'death' of Chrysler several times, and yet, here it is today, making good profits.

    • Morea Morea on Oct 10, 2012

      Chrysler did die (went bankrupt), was saved by the US government, and restarted with the same name.

  • Bela Barenyi Bela Barenyi on Oct 10, 2012

    @NMGOM: I didn't want to offend anyone, but I'm fed up with a lot of people who take every stupid judgement of the three big rating agencies as gospel/at face value instead taking it with a pinch of salt. Rating agencies are subject to conflict of interests, just stupidly extrapolate from recent/past developments and assume that the future will be like the recent past, base everything on "expectations" (which is very subjective) and completly ignore the fact that their judgements fuel "self-fulfilling prophecies" (you downgrade a company, the company in question has to pay higher interest rates, the company's cost of capital increases, higher cost of capital affects the profit, the profit decreases or in in the worst case leads to a (bigger) loss and this again affects everybody's expectations regarding the future prospects (read: profits/losses) of the company in question). (Before someone doubts my remarks: I hold a Master's Degree in Economic Science (majored in Accounting and Audit, Banking and Finance, Money and International Finance) and a Master's Degree in Fiscal Affairs (finished both degrees at universities in Germany). @th009: Nobody said that Chrysler and Fiat are "debt-free", but having debts or not is not the most important point. The most important question is whether a company is able finance the ongoing operations or to put it differently: whether the a company's business generates enough positive cash-flow to finance the company's ongoing operations. And preserving cash is nothing more than reducing "cash outflows". As long as Fiat and Chrysler can service their debts everything is fine and so far nobody questions Fiat's or Chrysler's ability to service their debts.

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    • NMGOM NMGOM on Oct 10, 2012

      Thanks again, Bela.... I appreciate your taking the time to look into this. And I gather from your initial comments above that you were "loaded for bear" on this topic! (^_^)... You hit the key Issue: self-fulfilling prophesy from a credit downgrade. I'd sure hate to see Chrysler get hurt right now that they're bouncing back so vigorously, especially with the Dart, SRT Viper, 300, and new Ram 1500. ----------

  • Theflyersfan I wonder how many people recalled these after watching EuroCrash. There's someone one street over that has a similar yellow one of these, and you can tell he loves that car. It was just a tough sell - too expensive, way too heavy, zero passenger space, limited cargo bed, but for a chunk of the population, looked awesome. This was always meant to be a one and done car. Hopefully some are still running 20 years from now so we have a "remember when?" moment with them.
  • Lorenzo A friend bought one of these new. Six months later he traded it in for a Chrysler PT Cruiser. He already had a 1998 Corvette, so I thought he just wanted more passenger space. It turned out someone broke into the SSR and stole $1500 of tools, without even breaking the lock. He figured nobody breaks into a PT Cruiser, but he had a custom trunk lock installed.
  • Jeff Not bad just oil changes and tire rotations. Most of the recalls on my Maverick have been fixed with programming. Did have to buy 1 new tire for my Maverick got a nail in the sidewall.
  • Carson D Some of my friends used to drive Tacomas. They bought them new about fifteen years ago, and they kept them for at least a decade. While it is true that they replaced their Tacomas with full-sized pickups that cost a fair amount of money, I don't think they'd have been Tacoma buyers in 2008 if a well-equipped 4x4 Tacoma cost the equivalent of $65K today. Call it a theory.
  • Eliyahu A fine sedan made even nicer with the turbo. Honda could take a lesson in seat comfort.
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