Green Cars Push Gas Prices Down (About Time ...)

You have to plug in your golf kart every stinking day. I can handle stopping at the gas station every two weeks or so. They even wash my car and for little more of my time than you spend with cords daily. There were quite a few people living your troglodytic existence until Henry Ford freed them from their tethers.

@CJinSD > You have to plug in your golf kart every stinking day. Plugging in is so hard... How do you handle the perils of working with your laptop or the mobile phone is beyond me. > until Henry Ford freed them from their tethers. Freed whom from what? Their children from mobile, peaceful future without resource wars?

@CJinSD Are progressives really as ignorant of history as you claim to be? Henry Ford allowed the working classes to leave dirty, crime dominated, disease(often horse manure-born disease) riddled cities for the prosperity and life expectancy of the suburbs. All the freedoms that were bestowed upon common people that the progressives are now trying to restore to being privileges of the elite flowed from the efficiency of the internal combustion engine and other advancements of industrialization that you resent for some unimaginably perverse reason. It is people like you that restore my faith in the existence of real evil.

@CJinSD > Henry Ford allowed the working classes to leave He didn't allow anything. Abundance of resources did. > dirty, crime dominated, disease(often horse manure-born > disease) riddled cities This must be from the past. Haven't seen anything like this for a long time. So it doesn't count. > for the prosperity and life expectancy of the suburbs. Suburbs. Yuck. I've always lived at worst 25 minutes cycling distance from school/work. Some collegues of mine commute one hour one way. Poor fellows. > All the freedoms that were bestowed upon common people that > the progressives are now trying to restore to being privileges > of the elite flowed from the efficiency* of the internal > combustion engine and other advancements of industrialization > that you resent for some unimaginably perverse reason. It is > people like you that restore my faith in the existence of > real evil. There we have it, the error in your reasoning. NO ONE is trying to take anything away from you. Never ever. It's just that some tried to get a big picture and to be a bit predictive about what's next. And it turned out the time for paradigm shift is NOW. We got another chance from our planet in the form of relatively "abundant" natural gas. Until we master some silver bullet nuclear fusion process and contain it in a small flask, therefore yielding infinite source of energy from molecular mass, we'd better start saving seriously. And no, it is not an attack against your habits. It is pure common sense. * 10% well-to-wheel efficiency is zero efficiency. Again, only abundance of oil (and oil wars) kept it alive. This abundance has come to an end. Nice chart as post scriptum. Guess what fuelled that: tinyurl.com/7zh2byk

@CJinSD *chuckle* If you can't handle plugging in a J1772 cord, you aren't physically or mentally fit enough to operate any motor vehicle. It's not like the car is autonomous and is prowling the streets fighting crime while I'm not driving it at night. Plus, my commute costs blend out to about 2-3 cents per mile for 'fuel'. What are yours?

What do you think will happen to the price of electricity if tens of millions start plugging in their cars? And don't start with the nonsense about renewables-- it will take a monument undertaking to convert even a small percentage of our current electrical consumption to renewables without adding our cars to the equation.

Bravo sir. It sounds like the only thing your run out of less frequently than gas is smugness.

@azmtbkr81 ++ @ azmtbkr81. Plug-in's just don't work in too many situations to make them usable as a primary car. Still haven't seen a plug-in with 7 seats yet either (although it may exist I haven't heard of it).

@sfay3 With solar on my roof, I can produce my own fuel. Can't do that with oil. I spend 10 seconds a day plugging in and unplugging the next day. So a minute every 3 days, tops. How much time do you spend driving out of your way to get gas, then waiting in line with the other gas suckers? How long do you have to spend out in the freezing cold/blazing heat per year? I kinda think it might be more than the hour a year I spend "filling up". Although, truth be told, I do have to go to a gas station, just like the rest of you. Once per year I have to put my ration of gas in. I'm using 3 gallons a year now, and I did have to change the oil after 2 years as well. How many hours a year do you spend doing that? As for renewables, it's really a matter of taking a little "personal responsibility and caring for" YOUR life, isn't it? Anyone can opt into green sourced power, or buy shares in a wind farm/solar farm. Those that do not will just remain takers.