By on June 9, 2012

Tennessee is so 2011 for the UAW. The hot new locale for foreign plant organizing campaigns is Mississippi, where the UAW is trying to organize workers at a Nissan truck plant.

The union has tried to organize before – campaigns in 2005 and 2007 ended with the UAW unable to even organize a vote. According to Reuters, the UAW has been working over the last 6 months to unionize the plant in Canton, which builds the Nissan Titan, Quest and Altima.

Union President Bob King apparently feels that an automaker backlash against organizing will drive workers to unionize.  History, of course, is not on the UAW’s side, with foreign plants located in the South being famously hostile to the UAW. King accused Nissan of mis-representing the UAW to workers during information sessions held at the plant, but a Nissan spokesman told AN

“We’re giving them factual information about the history of the UAW and the lack of success that they have had with their employees and with the companies that they’ve represented…”

To say that the UAW has an uphill battle against them is an understatement. Mississippi’s governor has even said that intervention on his part would be possible if the UAW tried to organize at the Nissan plant.

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27 Comments on “UAW Targeting Nissan’s Mississippi Plant...”


  • avatar
    blockmachining

    Way to go Mississippi governor. There is absolutely no place for a group of thugs in today’s workplace. All they want is your money so that the union leaders can live off of your hard work. GM and Chrysler were failures and should not have been saved with taxpayer’s money. We live in a Democratic society based upon the Free Enterprise System where the strong survive and the weak fail. This is not a socialist economy, even though the current administration is trying to take us there. GM, Chrysler and Ford will eventually fail if the unions continue to represent those workers. It’s just a matter to time. Nothing has changed for them except for receiving taxpayer’s money to help keep them afloat. The workers in Canton are not blind and can see all of the job security and benefits that they have. Canton workers….keep up the great work that you do and don’t let these low lifes ruin what you have and the life long employment and security they provide for you and your family.

    • 0 avatar
      tonycd

      “The lifelong employment and security they provide for you and your family”? Based on what?

      Is this message a plant from Nissan management? A PR missive from a paid flunky at an anti-union industry trade group? It sure reads like one.

      And for the 3 millionth time, “GM and Chrysler being saved with taxpayer’s (sic) money” was an enormous success, for one simple reason: it prevented the immediate loss of millions of autoworker, supplier and downstream jobs at exactly the time that the entire nation was teetering on the verge of a second Great Depression. All the good things after that (like the LaCrosse, Cruze, C7 Corvette, Chrysler 300 or Dodge Dart, to name just a few) are gravy.

      How quickly, and how conveniently, they forget.

  • avatar
    jnik

    Stay out of it, Guv! The workers probably won’t join, if history is any indication. But if you interfere, you’ll just reinforce your state’s well – earned image as an ignorant backwater.

  • avatar
    "scarey"

    Dup post. I should change my name to ‘The Doppleganger Poster”. Apologies.

  • avatar
    "scarey"

    The Nissan workers in Mississippi are just as smart as their Tennessee counterparts. They will not want to mess up their good thing.
    @jnik- have you ever BEEN to Mississippi ? Ignorant backwater ? Have you seen Detroit lately (since 1967) ? I think you mean pleasant rural lifestyle and friendly down home people.

  • avatar
    Volt 230

    Here come the Mafia attacking the South.

  • avatar
    Bent07

    Hey Derek, the CAW has been targeting Honda of Canada MFG in Alliston since last year and has an active campaign, how come no news on that?

  • avatar
    billfrombuckhead

    We certainly live in ironically fictitious times. If the UAW were were mafia thugs, i’m sure the corrupt third world backwater that is Mississippi would welcome them like job creating heroes. However if an organization is for worker rights and democratic economic advancement, then meet those people at the border with the National Guard and attack dogs

    Remember Governor Boss Hog Barbour raising campaign money from Communist China back in the 90′s before it was cool?

    • 0 avatar
      tonycd

      +1.

    • 0 avatar
      28-cars-later

      When I think of the UAW, I don’t think worker rights or democratic economic advancement. I think monolithic and redundant, an example of the 20th century way of doing things still barely hanging on in the 21st.

      • 0 avatar
        highdesertcat

        More to the point, I wonder what the UAW can offer these workers that they don’t already have, besides the 15% dues deduction every payday.

        Hyundai took an indepth look at union demands before they opened their new plant and matched or exceeded every one of those demands.

        Tie that to the EEOC and OSHA requirements for all employers, what can the UAW do for these people except take part of their paycheck every pay day.

      • 0 avatar
        28-cars-later

        UAW supporters might argue that without their existence in the first place the non-union transplants would not treat their workers so well. I say that’s bologna, whats your take?

      • 0 avatar
        highdesertcat

        “I say that’s bologna, whats your take?”

        Well, my take may surprise you because the UAW has a very valid point there. There was a time in the early days of automobiledom that the work was backbreaking and often disabling.

        The UAW was instrumental in bettering the work conditions and expanding the wages and benefits. So they have a point. And anyone who ever bought a UAW-assembled vehicle paid dearly for that privilege.

        My dad was a union man and I grew up in a union household for several years until my dad got hired by DoD Civil Service and opted not to join the federal employee union because of his experiences with the union at his previous job.

        His previous union prevented him from doing the complete job or clean up or do prep because that union wanted to spread the work around to as many dues-paying union members as possible.

        Consequently there wasn’t any continuity on a job and often Peter forgot to tell Paul what still needed done. It was enormously frustrating for him to only be allowed to do a partial job or to have to wait for another union member to show up to bring him parts or whatever.

        Where the UAW and many other unions have failed both their members and their employers is that all this power has gone to their collective heads.

        Higher wages, health and retirement benefits were squeezed out of their employers even though many could not afford them. The threat of strikes constantly hung menacingly over an employer, whose primary responsibility is to its owners or shareholders. Unless they own stock, UAW members are employees. Just employees. Nothing more. Nothing less.

        And the UAW was solely responsible for the assembly and poor workmanship inherent in American-brand cars of the past. UAW workers worry more about what their CEO gets paid than they do about doing their own job. They believe they’re all entitled to CEO pay.

        So those past decades were also when the Federal government came up with such jewels as the EEOC, OSHA, the EPA, and God only knows what else, in the name of primarily protecting the workers, and secondly, the work-environment. Kinda displaced the UAW bargaining chips.

        We all already know how the UAW drove two of their employers into the grave. That’s part of automotive history too. When Bush bailed out the US auto industry among others, he did it to give Obama time to consider his future strategy.

        Obama took it a lot further by nationalizing both GM and Chrysler, their debt and obligations, AND ensuring control over two-thirds of the US auto manufacturers.

        Obviously, Obama thought that Chrysler was a lost cause and bribed Fiat with $1.3B to take it. And that turned out to be a good thing even though Chrysler is now an Italian company, much to the chagrin of loyal Chrysler fans who also hated Daimler’s ownership of Chrysler back then.

        It’s even less emotional for the UAW reps on the board because Sergio has basically marginalized them. Sergio and the BoD call the shots. All Sergio needs is an excuse to move production to Canada, or Mexico, or Brazil, or even Italy. Them US jobs, they’d be gone!

        Hey, Sergio is even using Chrysler’s profits to keep Fiat alive and afloat! That’s got to be a real pisser for the Chrysler employees; their hard work, their profits, all going to Italy. It shows them who’s the boss! But it’s better to be working than joining Obama’s 99′ers. So there go the profits.

        GM is another story, and now that the precedence has been set, GM will soldier on forever and ever, because the US government will not let GM fail, ever. It will bail out GM over and over again like the Postal Service, the airline industry, fannie and freddie. It doesn’t matter who’s in power or who lives in the White House. GM will be bailed out forever and will never die.

        But as to the UAW’s planned and coordinated attack on the non-unionized auto workers of America? I would like the UAW to go on the record to tell America exactly what it is they are offering these potential new members that those potential new members don’t already have.

        Potential new members have to weigh what the UAW has wrought to their American employers versus what the UAW has to offer that they don’t already have.

        And short of breaking arms and legs, I don’t think that the UAW has a case. They certainly don’t have the merit, as SOME other plants have already chosen not to organize.

        Keep in mind that attracting new dues-paying members into the UAW fold is existential for the UAW. With NAFTA now in play, any manufacturer can cut back production in the US (and Canada) and move the jobs and/or expansion elsewhere. The UAW had better tread lightly.

        Personally, I don’t care if auto workers at a plant organize and unionize. I’ll buy what I think is best in the market place at the time, just like I bought a 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee, assembled by the UAW and imported from Detroit. I didn’t care that Chrysler is now an Italian company. The JGC is the best in class IMO — that’s all that matters since I put MY money where my mouth is.

      • 0 avatar
        Campisi

        “Hyundai took an indepth look at union demands before they opened their new plant and matched or exceeded every one of those demands.”

        Good on the UAW, then; there’s no way in hell Hyundai would have even considered doing as much without some sort of outside pressure. This sort of thing is the whole point of unions: to try and ensure that the people actually producing and performing work within a company get a fair share (not “what the market will allow”) of the profits they have generated. The UAW didn’t even need to fully organize for the workers to see benefit in this case.

      • 0 avatar
        highdesertcat

        Campisi, it also means that the UAW is not collecting any dues money. It’s not about what the UAW DID, it is about how much money the UAW can collect each payday.

        The UAW and other unions do not do their thing for free. They do it for a hefty price, collected in the form of dues every payday.

        The UAW cannot collect unless auto workers are willing to sign up and pay those dues. So far, auto workers in the South have resisted organizing under the UAW banner. We’ll see what happens at Nissan.

      • 0 avatar
        uawborn

        Where is everyone getting their union info from? Im new to this site and I never knew such wide and wildly inaccurate “facts” about the uaw exist. I pay union dues and its no where near 15% of anything. We pay two hours of straight pay a month! Not 15% a week. Once a month. And when did we become thugs or. Members of the mafia? Maybe my ignorance of how people view the uaw is my on fault, but my eyes are starting to open and my goal will be to educate all those who are mis informed and are willing to have there eyes opened as well.

  • avatar
    Charliej

    The people of Mississippi are friendly and will give you the shirts off their backs. If you are just like them. If you are not white and religious, you are nothing. However, Mississippi is progressing. It will soon rise from last place in the states by passing Alabama. I doubt that either Mississippi or Alabama will ever join the twenty first century. Too much history.

  • avatar
    JimothyLite

    Yeah, I can vouch for that. Like, one time I was there and I like ran out of shirts, and this one guy there gave me the shirt off his back. But, like, he was so beer-bellied and had a Bible tattooed on his chest, that I gave it back. And then my Hispanic wife got out of the car, and he like totally spit at her and said to go back to the place where they speak Mexican! It was like, everybody there seemed to be just like this guy, so we left in a hurry. And now I think they should just make, like, Mississippi and Alabama as the 58th and 59th states, and keep them there like, forever.

  • avatar
    DubTee1480

    As someone who lives in the state in question, the ignorance displayed in some of the posts here is appalling. The stereotyping really doesn’t make you appear any better than the people you’re painting with such a broad brush.

    • 0 avatar
      "scarey"

      I have visited there and driven through several times, and enjoyed it very much.I apologize for the slurs against your state. It seems that some of the posters here snuck into the ‘best and brightest’ forum. Of course, anyone can post anything on the internet, either truthful statements, or uninformed garbage .With very little effort you can usually tell which is which.
      By the way, the Governor of Mississippi’s name is Bryant. I don’t know if he is a democrat or a republican, but he got 62% of the vote, so either he did something right, or the other party did something wrong.

  • avatar
    cheezeweggie

    As much as I cant stand to see the UAW set foot in any in a Nissan plant, I don’t think the governor of Mississippi had any right to intercede in any legal organization effort. The last time I recall this type of “government intervention” was in Germany in the 1930′s.

  • avatar
    obbop

    AMA (American Medical Association).

    Basically, the doctor union that does not receive the negative propaganda dispensed from an array of sources that the unions for those loathsome low-class commoner scum vermin who do not know their proper low position within the pyramid-shaped socio-economic hierarchy.

    Commies!!!!!!!!!!!

    Destroyers of “capitalism.”

    AMA cuddles up to Congress often.

    Limit enrollment to medical schools, artificially raise doctor income.

    But that is all-American.

    A small amount of easily-done Web research will reveal what prompts my anger.

    So many bleating citizen-sheep; well-indoctrinated via the life-long brainwashing all of us are immersed within.

    Love it or leave it.

  • avatar
    indi500fan

    Mississippi is a right to work state. So even if the union gets in how many pay dues?


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