Piston Slap: Dumping Your 9-5? 10-4 on That!

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Curt writes:

Sajeev,

I’m looking for some Saab selling advice. A couple of years ago I convinced my girlfriend that she would love the functionality and performance of a 2002 Saab 9-5 turbo wagon (5-spd)… perhaps in some small part because I wanted one myself. As she fell in love with the Saab I grew to hate its constant need for attention and respect its ability to find new and creative ways to fail.

Now that I convinced her to upgrade to a 2009 Jetta TDI wagon, I have to figure out how to unload the Saab. The problem is, aside from some typical small problems, this car has an emissions leak (causing a check engine light) and needs a Direct ignition Cassette, (currently preventing full boost mode). I’ve devoted a lot of weekends to this car so most of the gadgets work and it looks great, but I figure no one will touch it with the current problems… Because I wouldn’t.

My question: is it worth the money to invest another $200 – $300 for the DI cassette, which *should* solve the lack of boost? And how much should I be asking/expecting on the open market? It now has 120K miles and will be sold with the evap leak because fixing requires dropping the fuel tank and that aint gonna happen. To make things slightly worse, we live in a town that requires emissions compliance before allowing vehicle registration, so the new owner has that to look forward to.

Oh yeah, the sooner you can weigh in on this, the better, as the new (used) Jetta is already in our garage and the Saab needs to be gone ASAP.

Thanks,


Curt

Sajeev answers:

As a Lincoln-Mercury fanboi with no brand-honest prospects in the (near?) future, it pains me to see a turbo, stick, SAAB wagon in search of a new owner. But you couldn’t pay me to own it, either. You need money, plenty of time on the forums, or a very worthwhile SAAB independent mechanic to make that beastie worth owning. Tragic.

So should you spend the money to fix that check engine light, so it will pass emissions? Yes, unless the cost spirals out of control. Your $300 budget sounds totally worth it, except you have no interest in fixing that leaking evap emissions thing. Therefore the light will stay on, emissions won’t be passed, value plummets. So let’s run some numbers.

Taking a wild guess at your 9-5’s options and overall condition via Edmund’s appraisal tool, I’d say you’d be lucky to get more than $4500 on a private party sale, and good luck getting over $3000 on trade-in/wholesale. This is assuming you clear all engine codes and the rest of the SAAB is good for an inspection. And assuming you remain a resident of a fly-over state, not one of those SAAB friendly places on the coast.

The SAAB’s transaction price if you don’t clear the codes? I donno…and maybe who cares? At what point does a loss of 500-2000 dollars really hurt you? Is time more valuable than money? Are you on the fast track to a promotion, bonus, etc? I’d recommend going to a few dealers and seeing their cash offers. If you leave infuriated, well, maybe you should fix that heap so it will pass the emissions test for the next owner. If you kinda shrug it off, just dump it on craigslist for a little more than the dealer’s offer…fingers crossed on that.

Perhaps you should make a friend in California? Or Oregon? Massachusetts? You see my point.

Oh and by the way, I’d sincerely recommend an extended warranty for that Jetta. But you probably already knew that.

Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry.
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  • Ffdr4 Ffdr4 on May 11, 2012

    I own an '02 9-5 2.3t wagon. It has over 200000km's on it and other then replacing a power window switch, a starter and turbo it has needed nothing. It has been one of my most reliable vehicles. For someone who has some moderate DIY skills, it is very easy car to do your own maintenance on.

  • Pyrrhic74 Pyrrhic74 on Jul 14, 2012

    As a former VW owner and currently a SAAB owned I say you are Nucking Futz if you're replacing the 9-5 with a Jetta. As much as I loved my VWs, they brought me nothing but headaches and lots of money lost. Currently I own three SAABs (1987 900i, 1995 900 Turbo, 2000 9-5 Aero Wagon) that are extremely reliable and very easy to work on. As a mechanic I feel SAABs are easier to work on than VWs. I say replace the DIC, drop the tank and fix the EVAP (easy to do if the tank is near empty), and if you want to sell the 9-5 that bad, do it after fixing those items. Then buy something else other than a Jetta, unless you really love to keep paying for repairs.

  • GregLocock That's a bodge, not a solution. Your diff now has bits of broken off metal floating around in it.
  • The Oracle Well, we’re 3-4 years in with the Telluride and right around the time the long term durability issues start to really take hold. This is sad.
  • CoastieLenn No idea why, but nothing about a 4Runner excites me post-2004. To me, they're peak "try-hard", even above the Wrangler and Gladiator.
  • AZFelix A well earned anniversary.Can they also attend to the Mach-E?
  • Jalop1991 The intermediate shaft and right front driveshaft may not be fully engaged due to suspected improper assembly by the supplier. Over time, partial engagement can cause damage to the intermediate shaft splines. Damaged shaft splines may result in unintended vehicle movement while in Park if the parking brake is not engagedGee, my Chrysler van automatically engages the parking brake when we put it in Park. Do you mean to tell me that the idjits at Kia, and the idjit buyers, couldn't figure out wanting this in THEIR MOST EXPENSIVE VEHICLE????
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