Ferrari F12 Berlinetta; More Wretched Excess

Derek Kreindler
by Derek Kreindler

12 cylinders. 740 horsepower. 509 lb-ft of torque. A 7-speed dual clutch gearbox. 3,362 lbs. 211 mph top speed. Non CGI-pictures after the car gets its debut next week at the Geneva Auto Show.





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  • Tjh8402 Tjh8402 on Mar 01, 2012

    The front end definitely is on the busy side but I do like the proportions from other angles. My experience with other modern Ferrairs (599, 612, FF, California) is that they don't photograph well but are much better looking in person. the 458 Italia is definitely the exception to that rule, as its gorgeous in pictures and painfully -because- my- jaw -drops-and-hits-the -floor-stunning in person. Still, the numbers on this car are fantastic. I'm glad to see Ferrari getting the weight of their 12 cylinder models down. The question will be how does it sound. I wasn't a huge fan of the way the 550, 575, 612, and non GTO 599 sounded. They didn't sound bad, but didn't have that traditional Ferrari scream. The FF and 599 GT0 remind me more of how the old GT1 class 550 and 575's sounded, and the 458 Italia is definitely the best sounding V8 car since the 355.

  • SCE to AUX SCE to AUX on Mar 01, 2012

    I think it's hot.

  • SCE to AUX All that lift makes for an easy rollover of your $70k truck.
  • SCE to AUX My son cross-shopped the RAV4 and Model Y, then bought the Y. To their surprise, they hated the RAV4.
  • SCE to AUX I'm already driving the cheap EV (19 Ioniq EV).$30k MSRP in late 2018, $23k after subsidy at lease (no tax hassle)$549/year insurance$40 in electricity to drive 1000 miles/month66k miles, no range lossAffordable 16" tiresVirtually no maintenance expensesHyundai (for example) has dramatically cut prices on their EVs, so you can get a 361-mile Ioniq 6 in the high 30s right now.But ask me if I'd go to the Subaru brand if one was affordable, and the answer is no.
  • David Murilee Martin, These Toyota Vans were absolute garbage. As the labor even basic service cost 400% as much as servicing a VW Vanagon or American minivan. A skilled Toyota tech would take about 2.5 hours just to change the air cleaner. Also they also broke often, as they overheated and warped the engine and boiled the automatic transmission...
  • Marcr My wife and I mostly work from home (or use public transit), the kid is grown, and we no longer do road trips of more than 150 miles or so. Our one car mostly gets used for local errands and the occasional airport pickup. The first non-Tesla, non-Mini, non-Fiat, non-Kia/Hyundai, non-GM (I do have my biases) small fun-to-drive hatchback EV with 200+ mile range, instrument display behind the wheel where it belongs and actual knobs for oft-used functions for under $35K will get our money. What we really want is a proper 21st century equivalent of the original Honda Civic. The Volvo EX30 is close and may end up being the compromise choice.
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