By on January 9, 2012

 

The Volkswagen Jetta Hybrid combines two entities hated most by car fans – the new Volkswagen Jetta, and hybrids – on to which auto enthusiasts can project their deep-seated anger issues.

Volkswagen says that fuel economy should be at 45 mpg combined while 0-60 will come up in 9 seconds. This may not be “…fun out on the highway…” as another blogger termed it, but we were intrigued to see that Volkswagen is using a 1.4L turbocharged engine making 150 horsepower and 184 lb-ft of torque as the gasoline side of the equation. A 7-speed DSG gearbox is used to put the power to the ground. Why can’t we just get this motor in place of the 2.0L 4-cylinder and 2.5L 5-cylinder engines?

The hybrid system it self seems underwhelming with a tiny 1.1kWh battery allowing the car to move gas free for a mere 1.2 miles at speeds of up to 44 mph. Minor styling changes, weird looking alloy wheels and hybrid badging round out the visual changes. VW made no pricing announcements for the Jetta Hybrid

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22 Comments on “NAIAS: Volkswagen Jetta Hybrid...”


  • avatar
    stryker1

    WTF? They already sell the TDI, which gets nearly the same mileage, and is going to be much quicker.

    • 0 avatar
      jmo

      nearly the same mileage

      30 city 42 highway is “nearly the same” as 48 combined?

      • 0 avatar
        stryker1

        unless you drive 50,000 miles a year, its close enough to make very little difference. Also, it’s 45 combined. I would add, that I’ve never been able to get my 2011 TDI below 38 mpg no matter how I drive (usually 40+), and with such a small battery, I doubt this Jetta Hybrid will be doing alot of over-achieving.

    • 0 avatar
      Maymar

      And 0-60 in 0.7 fewer seconds is hardly “much quicker.” especially when getting there in 9 seconds is plenty adequate.

      I’m just assuming this is because as they chase the average American motorist, they realize they’re going after a crowd with which Hybrid resonates much stronger than Diesel.

      • 0 avatar
        stryker1

        fair enough, lets change that to “slightly quicker”. The question for me is still, why introduce this unless you’re going to ditch the TDI?

      • 0 avatar
        Maymar

        Presumably, they’re not going to be splitting customer bases. Hopefully they’re smart enough to know that they have some extremely loyal customers with the diesel buyers, but having a Jetta Hybrid allows them to gain new conquests.

      • 0 avatar
        Chicago Dude

        If you drive mostly in the city, a hybrid usually works out better.

        If you drive mostly on the highway, a diesel usually works out better.

        Pick the type of driver you are and buy the right engine for you.

  • avatar
    Sundowner

    I have nothing against hybrid or electric vehicles. The Fisker and the Teslas are dead sexy, and I respect the leap forward made by the Volt; all first steps are shaky. HOWEVER, I hate the mexican built POS jetta, and I hate the overcomplicated TDI motor that they put in it. I don’t know enough about this car to hate it yet, but I will bet strongly that I hate it a lot. I do understand why they are making it. the TDI must be eliminated for the good of all mankind. Diesel used to be a good idea, but the inject system and emissions on that motor are comical (if you don’t own one) or tragic (if you do own one)

    • 0 avatar
      stryker1

      When was the last time you drove a TDI? I’ve driven a 2010 and a 2011, and I think they’re phenomenal.

      • 0 avatar
        Sundowner

        I owned a 2010 Jetta wagon TDI for 10 agonizing months. The car would be perfect if it could run for more than three week straight without a fault code, a recall, or stalling out for no good reason in the middle of the road. Best day of my car-ownership life was watching that POS drive away.

    • 0 avatar
      Silvy_nonsense

      “…on to which auto enthusiasts can project their deep-seated anger issues.”

      On that measure, it seems the car is a success.

      One question for Sundowner – when eliminating TDI, are you hoping for the elimination of turbos, injection or diesels themselves? Any chance you are a lobbyist for the Association of Naturally-aspirated, Carburetted, Gasoline Engine Manufacturers?

      • 0 avatar
        Sundowner

        No, I’m for eliminating 2 redundant EGR systems, a glitchy fuel injecton system that eats its own pumps, a patently insane diesel particulate filter that may or may not require a $2000 replacement at 100k-120k miles (Read your owner’s manual), and expensive specialty oil that you might find outside of a VW dealer, maybe.

        All this expensive nonsense to make a diesel meet current emissions standards? no thanks.

    • 0 avatar
      tankinbeans

      “…but I will bet strongly that I hate it a lot…”

      This reminds me very strongly of the scene in Scary Movie 2 with the creepy dude who had misshapen hands when he said, “I don’t know what that is, but I’ll lick it anyway.” Take that as you wish, but I would say if you don’t like it, you won’t have to buy it.

      There are plenty of people who might be able to look past its “enthusiast defined” downsides and will buy it. Since I’m not in the market, nor can I afford a hybrid, I will withhold any judgment about the little car.

      I will say that I’ve driven my friend’s 2.5 SE and it was fun for me. I kind of liked the growl/gravelly sound coming from the engine.

      To each his/her own.

      • 0 avatar
        Sundowner

        That’s the thing about this car. it’s tons of fun until it breaks, and it breaks all the time. In 10 months of agony, I had front wheel sensors replaced, airbag sensors replaced, the sunroof rails replaced, and my favorite, the front subframe bolts tightened after they cam loose while driving causing the front subframe to clang around. there’s also the touchscreen radio that occasionaly refuses touch commands or requires a reboot(ARGH!) I would not urinate on this car to put out its inevitable electical fire.

      • 0 avatar
        krhodes1

        @Sundowner

        You obviously got the single worst VW ever built, AND the service department was on a mission to make your life miserable. Get over it. I know far to many happy people with VW diesels from the past 4-5 model years to pay any attention to your incessant whinging. One friend put 50K happy miles on his ’10 the first year.

  • avatar
    stryker1

    “Why can’t we just get this motor in place of the 2.0L 4-cylinder and 2.5L 5-cylinder engines?”

    That’s not a bad thought. Maybe bump the 2.5 down to the base model, and have this be the new SE.

  • avatar
    bumpy ii

    “Why can’t we just get this motor in place of the 2.0L 4-cylinder and 2.5L 5-cylinder engines?”

    Atkinson cycle?

  • avatar
    LeMansteve

    Turbocharged DSG hybrid? Sounds like a quality nightmare. Reminds me of the VW twincharger engines: simultaneously turbocharged AND supercharged.

  • avatar
    zerofoo

    I’ve driven a friend’s new Jetta TDI and it is a fantastic car. Good steering, brakes, chassis, and lots of low-end grunt. That’s useful around town.

    If they can replicate this with a decently reliable hybrid that drives better than a prius or camry it will sell.

    I’ve discovered two things in my life: Software guys should not design computer products and car enthusiasts should not design cars for the masses.

  • avatar
    geozinger

    My guess is that this car is insurance in the event that CARB or someone else manages to completely outlaw diesel passenger vehicles in the US.

  • avatar
    danwat1234

    Why is VW so dumb?? Don’t use a 1.4 liter OTTO cycle gas engine! I don’t think they are even using an Atkinson cycle OTTO. VW is not very good with gas engines, take the whopping 31MPG hwy new Beetle for example.

    Come on now! It’s real easy. Put a 1.2 liter turbodiesel like you have in the European Polo and mate it to a strong hybrid drivetrain.

    Bam. Now you have more MPG than any Prius and decent acceleration due to the power of the electric motor.
    55-60MPG HWY is within reach.

    I know VW can make that 1.2L Diesel pass emissions in the USA so make it happen and beat the competition! Don’t use the oversized 2L diesel engine that you use in the USA Passat, Jetta, Beetle, use the small 1.2L from Europe!


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