By on November 19, 2011

Lincoln’s updated look doesn’t seem to have won over too many of the skeptics, but before you make up your mind entirely, do check out these live shots from the LA Auto Show floor. Our man on the ground, Alex Dykes, notes

The interior refinements are welcome, especially as Cadillac has made some improvements to their interiors lately. Lincolns My Touch systems do seem considerably snappier than the previous versions, but we won’t be sure about the reliability until someone at TTAC has one for a week.

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41 Comments on “LA Auto Show: Live From Lincoln’s New Nose...”


  • avatar
    Chocolatedeath

    Since no one here seems to like Lincoln and wish it would pass. I will be the first to say that the updates are nice. The nose is better than the last and if you look at the other updates this is a good mid cycle refresh. Now I do hope that they will do far more when the time comes to do a complete ground up model.

    Do I think they could have done more..YES..Do you like the names of MK everything..NO..But I do see a market for Lincoln and dont wish they would fade away like so many on this site. I do wish them luck..three years from now when I am in the market for a new car I would only hope that they have a car that I can add to my list.

  • avatar
    Robert Schwartz

    Personally, I think the MKS looks a lot better than its badgemate, the Taurus.

    • 0 avatar

      Kinda looks like ford got rid of that STUPID center transmission tunnel that made the interior so bunkerized. I can’t wait to test drive this. my uncle currently has the Ecoboost MKS and when his comes off lease I suppose he’ll grab this one.

      • 0 avatar
        NulloModo

        For whatever reason the center console was never as big in the MKS as it is in the Taurus. I’ve seen photos of the new MKS interior with and without the center wood trim, I certainly hope my dealership orders them exclusively with the wood package, because it improves the interior by a huge margin.

        I’m a bit disappointed the EcoBoost didn’t get a power bump. Of course, that could be coming for future models, and the 360hp is plenty as it is, but a nice round 400hp would have been nice, and the engine is easily capable of it based on what a lot of the tuners have been putting out.

        I’m excited to drive it and see how well the active dampers work. I haven’t seen a full explanation on how they work yet, if it’s similar to GM’s magnetic shocks of if it’s some other system, but the proof will be in how it effects the ride.

      • 0 avatar
        Felis Concolor

        From what I’ve been reading, Ford left up to 150 hp on the table w/their twin turbo V6 – and I’m still happy with that as the current wave of understressed engines should experience much greater longevity as a result. Still, it’ll be fun to see what they do once their drivelines can handle the uprated power; isn’t the current hp limit set as a result of the D3/D4 drive train’s torque handling limitations?

        And the new nose looks much better than its predecessor, although it still doesn’t seem to scale well vertically. Perhaps that’s why I get the impression the designers tweaked the front to narrow the area the grille must cover.

  • avatar
    Educator(of teachers)Dan

    I actually think this is an ok update, though it does make me think of Buick’s classic chrome waterfall. Give an updated model to Baruth and see if Vodka can crash the system like she did in the Explorer.

  • avatar
    Crosley

    I personally really like it, it’s distinctive, and my guess is the biggest problem with Lincoln’s lineup is that everyone knows they’re just rebadged Fords with a shinier grill.

    This bold look would add value to their lineup, and people stop automatically linking their respective counterparts.

  • avatar
    Mrb00st

    Use the Flash, luke! Use the flash!

    Interior looks nicer from the bits we can see!

    • 0 avatar
      Juniper

      I agree.

    • 0 avatar
      Windy

      yes the inside does look better though it would of been nice if they had turned on the nav map for your photos…. but that front end ugh… and also ugh for the rear just not quite as bad… but I am one of those folks who thought the 1960s slab sided Continentals were the last cars they built that looked like they were worth the money. My Grandmother had a 1961 4 door convertible and her last car was a 66 Continental with an 8 track…. and both those cars looked like they were worth all of their money…

      The new Lincolns look like what they are, badge engineered Fords

  • avatar
    Joss

    Will it be enough to save Lincoln and reinvigorate the brands image in new minds?

    I’m sure its a fine car – insulated ride, nice & safe and all that but will it pull in the Cadillac or Lexus crowd?
    Maybe it just has to keep GM spending on Cadillac… The more I think about it, the more convinced I am Lincoln’s a decoy brand.

    • 0 avatar
      Educator(of teachers)Dan

      Maybe it just has to keep GM spending on Cadillac… The more I think about it, the more convinced I am Lincoln’s a decoy brand.

      Ha, I’ve always thought that about the Toyota Avalon, Hyundai Azera, and Kia Amanti. Cars created to try to kill Buick and Mercury with death by a thousand paper-cuts.

  • avatar
    Conslaw

    When I look at this Lincoln, Dolly Parton’s voice plays in my head singing, Baleen Baleen Baleen BaleEEN.

  • avatar
    Impala10

    This Lincoln looks okay, however for $40k+ its not good enough. Its nice that it has a leather wrapped dash, however the attention to detail is not there. The stitching looks a little sub par for a luxury sedan,and the interior design doesnt flow well with the doors and updated dashboard. If you compare this to 2013 Lexus GS, it blows the Lincoln away in the special touches department. If lincoln wants to be a luxury brand they need to pay very close attention to small things like the stitching on the dash top or adding a nice stitching pattern on the door inserts. Also the black plastic around the vents is very cheap for a car starting at $42k. They need to use real aluminum panels or authentic wood trim to set itself apart from the Ford Taurus. I hope that this car is just a stop gap until fresh and coherent designs go into production.

  • avatar
    Robert.Walter

    I really wanted to like it, and do, but from just too few angles … from many angles**, however, it appears ugly.

    Btw, is the front emblem on crooked?

    ** dead-on at the front and rear are two of these death angles…

  • avatar
    getacargetacheck

    It does look a little better. But Lincoln has some problems based on my test drive of an MKZ today. Sure, it has a nice upscale look inside, but the seats felt hard and flat, like an Accord’s. They just didn’t feel plush like you’d expect in a Lincoln. And, although quiet, it isn’t tomb quiet like the Lincolns I rode in as a kid. The light weight doors also shut with a sort of faint echo. Seems like one could save several thousand dollars going with a quieter, cushier Camry XLE V6.

  • avatar
    mpresley

    Ford must consider potential customers when designing vehicles. There are many more orthodontists needing luxury cars than whalers. Bad move, Lincoln.

  • avatar
    Advo

    My first impression of that grill is that it looks delicate.

    Can we ditch those stupid names? I thought that the MKS/Taurus was the MKZ, then I realized that it is indeed not the MKZ but the MKS. If that is the case, then I do like the MKS’ interior better than the too-chromed look of the MKZ (unless they’ve done a recent update that I didn’t keep track of), though it could use a bit more contrast as the gray dash and top of the dash is the same gray as the seats and side panels.

    Man, luxury buyers nit at every little thing, don’t they?

  • avatar

    From the pictures and the comments, I’m rapidly coming to the belief that Lincoln needs something that has absolutely no link to the recent past whatsoever. The alphanumerics have to go, the grille absolutely has to go….the interior needs a re-do instead of a refresh.

    Not to say any of it is bad…it’s not. They’re okay. But okay isn’t going to move the needle the way it needs moving.

  • avatar
    bumpy ii

    If they’re going to have the nose look like that, might as well ditch the grilles and wrap the headlights around all the way. Bring back the light bar!

  • avatar
    daveainchina

    I am rarely moved into saying a vehicle was ugly. Even the Pontiac Aztek only had me shrugging my shoulders.

    But this.. this is truly ugly, it’s like some 5 year old was put in charge of the design and could only think wings.. the front must look like wings.

    It’s really ugly and I really hope few of them sell.

  • avatar
    OldandSlow

    The front seat looks like a comfortable place to be, as it should in a premium car.

    While acceptable from in a side view, the grille treatment just looks excessive directly from the front – distinctive, yes – but very garish.

    The second problem with this trademark grille is when the design studio transfers it to the larger MKT – where it definitely screams,”Got Krill?”

    Infiniti has the same problem. Transferring the design elements of a G37 to a larger FX and JX just looks odd.

    • 0 avatar
      NulloModo

      As far as the MKT goes, the original concept was a beautiful vehicle. Somehow the realities of production logistics changed the shape for the worse, but if it had come out look like the concept, I don’t think there would be any complaining about it.

      http://www.autoblog.com/photos/detroit-2008-lincoln-mkt-concept-live-reveal/full/#photo-582088/

      • 0 avatar
        Windy

        While the concept looked ok from the back and the side it still had that monstrous out of proportion front end there is nothing that could be done to it to make it acceptable to anyone with a love of good design in my opinion.

        They need to scrap the motif and start over with a clean sheet as far as the front clip on all the models is concerned; and yes dump the idiotic MK mamboing structure…

        if they want a Mark something coupe model then fine call it a Mark XXII or what ever; but go back to some of the names thy used for models in the past.. if they want to build a station wagon then call it a shooting brake or an estate car…. I recall seeing custom wood bodied Versions of Lincoln station wagons in the early 50s that had been built from pre war cars and as far as I can recall they were just called Lincoln Station Wagons just call them what they are no need for silly naming systems

      • 0 avatar
        300zx_guy

        concept was better looking than the production version, which is a mess from every angle, but I would not call it beautiful.

  • avatar
    Sgt Beavis

    My first impulse was to say that this car is an instant failure. Now I’m thinking Lincoln MIGHT (big emphasis there) have stopped the sinking. I still think the MK-T looks like crap..

    The MK-Z may point to whether or not Lincoln can really be saved. The preview show shows a front clip that might actually look good.

    Now if Lincoln would just dump the whole MK naming convention. It still sounds stupid.

  • avatar

    The problem with Lincoln isn’t that doesn’t have iconic models from which to draw brand heritage. The ’40 Continental, the ’56 Mark II, and the ’61 Continental are all classic designs. Some would add the Mark III/IV grille as well. The problem is that none of those cars share many common elements. The Mark II and the ’61 both have egg crated grille elements. Other than that, it’s hard to distill some kind of common styling identity.

    With the first MKX, they at least tried to evoke the ’61 grille, but like many things at Lincoln, there was no follow through.

    • 0 avatar
      NulloModo

      I also liked the original MKX grill (which is also on the Navigator). There was even a package that blacked out most of the grid and just left the central Lincoln star in chrome that looked particularly sharp.

  • avatar

    You see the law of evolution in action – Lincoln is getting reborn. It is not born yet – what we see is Lincoln embryo in development – a.k.a ontogenesis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryo_drawing: “animal’s embryonic development follows exactly the same sequence as the sequence of its evolutionary ancestors”.

    During rebirth process Lincoln will follow all the stages of predecessor’s design evolution – from ’39 Lincoln Zephyr (no wonder that first “new” Lincoln was called Zephyr, currently known as MKZ) to Lincoln/Continental of 50s through 60s, 70s and so on up to Town Car. And then one day in the future Lincoln will be actually born with new design fully developed – a new brand coming to the world to announce its design excellence and warn humanity about pending global warming and ecological catastrophe, and finally taking over the luxury market and saving the Earth.

  • avatar
    John R

    I guess if I were interested in a Buick I’d be interested in this…I guess.

  • avatar
    Amendment X

    That’s one of the ugliest cars I’ve ever seen. With each day that passes, I’m feeling ever more vindicated that I didn’t buy Ford stock.

    Does this company have a clue? I’m beginning to wonder if Ford’s last couple of years of growth were an anomaly…

  • avatar
    Mr. Spacely

    Does anyone (NulloModo?) know what’s up with the Navigator/Expedition? Are these models going to continue, and if so, will they be BOF RWD?

  • avatar
    daveainchina

    I finally figured out what that front end reminds me of.

    It looks like that really old guy or swarthy guy with the huge eyebrows, unibrow and shaggy to boot.

    The guy who has to get his eyebrows plucked to look normal.

    That’s what these things remind me of. Just plain ugly.

  • avatar
    MadHungarian

    Is the driver’s compartment as narrow as it looks in the first interior photo? Maybe it’s something about the photography, but it looks very cramped.

    This is a car that looks better from the back than the front. The high hood, high cowl and blunt nose do nothing for the design. I know, I know, it has to do with pedestrian safety, creating a crush zone between the hood and the top of the engine. I have a better idea. If you’re walking, don’t walk in front of moving cars. If you’re driving, don’t run into people who are walking. Problem solved.

    • 0 avatar
      Advo

      I like that. We could apply the same philosophy to strictly cars so there will be no accidents and thus no need for heavy and expensive crush-zones or airbags or anything that affects performance or fuel economy that way.

  • avatar
    BigDuke6

    When I look at/evaluate an “upscale” auto such as this, I check out the wheels. Those are totally uninspired and boring looking alloy wheels IMO….

  • avatar
    Type57SC

    Still hate that there’s a cutout in the grill instead of a true grill. It really gives Lincolns a Pontiac-esque cheap vibe in my opinion.


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