By on October 4, 2011

The last few years have been a struggle for a lot of folks. Financial meltdowns. Millions of bankruptcies. Massive unemployment. Our ‘global’ economy continues to experience a maelstrom of wealth destruction that seems to make nearly everyone guard their money.

It’s been hell for most…. but guess what? In spite of it all you are among the few who have thrived. In fact you are laughing all the way to your nearest dealership.

So get your something nice! Let’s say the budget is up to $65,000. What would you buy for yourself? Would it be a lightly used Lexus with all the trimmings? A new BMW 5-Series? Maybe one of those VW Touaregs with the diesel engine and all the luxury trappings of a neo-Audi.

In my neck of the woods where the suburbs meets the ex-urbs, this question has only one suitable answer… a truck.

This is what you see when you enter the dealership closest to my home. Trucks. Not just any trucks. But 26 consecutive four-door Chevy and GMC trucks that are ripe for the taking. The GMC Denali HD 2500 4X4 is an upscale supersized Cadillac in a town where the only true upscale vehicles have 4WD and altered suspensions.

Don’t even think about getting an Impala or a Malibu in rural America. Those are parked in the back at the dealership. The way back. The Hardy Boys (even 70 year old men are still boys in the South) want you to buy big and haul ass. That’s why they put the trucks as close to your eyeballs as possible.

“Oh… my… gosh… that’s one big puppy!”

Back at home, my wife was completely in awe of the truck that we magically found on our driveway last Monday. No doubt delivered by Brazilian elves who apparently worked for a press fleet company.

The heavy duty truck Marcello’s elves left us bordered on the gargantuan

To call the GMC Denali HD 2500 4X4 large would be a mild understatement. Think about a truck that dwarfs SUV’s and most everything else on the road. How big are we talking about? I’ll put it to you this way. In downtown Atlanta I saw this seemingly small vehicle scurry right past it. I first thought at first it had been a Beetle or a Civic.

It turned out to be a Hummer.

The truck is larger, longer and heavier than the two cars we drive put together. More than seventy five hundred pounds of big. Even with a regular bed. This Denali HD 2500 along with the Ford F-250 and Dodge Ram 2500 want to make the Lincolns and Cadillacs of the road look as low to the ground as coffins on wheels.

They do it…. because that’s what the buyers want.

So with ‘big’ out of the way let’s go straight to price. The 2011 GMC Sierra Denali HD 2500 4X4 Diesel I tested will also tip the scales with a $62,124 price tag which includes over $15,000 in options. That amount alone would give most customers pause… except for a few notable things.


First off you’ll never have to pay anywhere near that price. But more on that later. Let’s first look at what guides the brow of this behemoth. A 6.6L Duramax diesel engine will offers today’s blue collar executive 397 horsepower and 765 lb. ft. of torque. That is tops for the class on paper, and is all well and good.But on the road it’s incredible.This vehicle can go from 30 mph to 70 mph with a Baruthian thrust. The engineers at GM put the torque right at the low to mid end of the scale which means that if you drive normally, you’ll rarely see it go beyond 2000 rpm’s. When you want power, you’re launched. 0 to 60 time is 7.4 seconds which for a work truck is simply unheard of.

So a plain jane Camry with a V6 is faster you say? You’re missing the point. This truck can also haul 21,700 lbs. with a fifth wheel while comfortably going 80+ mph on the open road. No kidding. No lawyers will even want to dispute that number.

Regular towing will yield 13,000 lbs. and the bed alone can haul over two tons. All of these numbers rate it top in the class. In functional terms you can’t buy the power of this truck at this price range in anything other than a new Corvette or an abandoned Libyan airfield.

If power alone could sell trucks the Denali trimmed HD 2500 would be hard to beat. But you have to look at the whole package. Here is the point where I have to throw in a disclaimer. Most work trucks have interiors that look like they came from cars that were half the price.

The one in this truck is nice… in the same way that an Impala LTZ is nice. You get thick leather seats up front that can be heated or cooled. Wood and aluminum accents throughout the cabin that aren’t ‘super-sized’ just because it’s a truck. A navigation system along with a touch screen that is surrounded with too many small plastic buttons that are of little use Plus you get a dashboard and door panels that look to be directly lifted out of a GMC Yukon Denali.

If you love GM full-sized trucks, you will love the interior of this truck.

On the road the overall set-up is tuned towards comfort and ease of use. The ride is slightly stiff without a load which is to be expected in a work truck. But the steering has a directness and precision that is more like a modern full-sized sedan than a truck. The seats in particular put a smile on my face during long drives through Atlanta and North Georgia. Over 750 miles worth in a week. Even in traffic, the Denali was a wonderful vehicle in most every respect and surprisingly easy to drive. But there are still more than a few opportunities for improvement.

GMC’s nav system is not nearly as intuitive or seamless as the Sync on the 2012 Ford F-250. For example, I was able to locate a nearby hotel and have the number called while driving down the road using the nav system quite easily. Other primary functions are easy as well.

Radio controls are on the steering wheel, the display screen is easy to read, and the trip computer offers quick feedback on the fuel economy, fluid levels and tire pressure.
So the main functions work. But I had to also read through the manual more than once to fully understand a lot of the other buttons and features. The small plastic buttons that surround the nav screen are particularly heinous in their feel and design, and should be shelved.

Another weakness? Although the vehicle is 241 inches long the back seats are also works in progress. The rear space is small compared to competitors and although an unusually upright position may be fine for kids and teens, your adult friends may not be happy if you take them on a road trip.

Finally I wish all automakers, GM included, would focus a bit more on upgrading some of the little things in their trucks once they venture into the higher price ranges. The power features along the door panels (windows, door locks, mirrors) would have been perfectly at home in a leftover Chevy Cobalt. The antenna is a base universal screw on and the intake louvre on the hood looks cheap compared to the rest of the vehicle .The bedliner also should have been upgraded with stronger materials to reflect the higher price.


Are these things dealbreakers? Not at all. But in a $62,000 truck these little things should be tended to as well. Especially since we’re talking about a truck with an asking price that can now get you a decent house in the ex-urbs where I live.

Which brings me to the key question. Is this loaded up work truck worth the ‘real world’ price? That answer has a twist given the time of year we find ourselves in.
As a 2011 changeover this model will go for thousands less than the new F-250. More than likely in the mid-50’s. With that you get a better ride, greater hauling capability, an interior that is better proportioned for most drivers, and a powertrain that is far better noted for durability.

If you are the type who buys new and keeps forever, I would consider it. But (and this is one I can’t help mentioning given what I see at the auctions) work trucks have phenomenal levels of depreciation. Due to the economy a lot of work trucks have been repossessed. It’s one of the few vehicles that is not in short supply in the used car market. As a matter of fact, when I parallel parked this truck in a street at the Atlanta zoo I happened to see…

The market on full-sized diesel work trucks is very soft at the moment, new or used. However October and the first fifteen days of November is an absolute dead zone in the car business. No tax refund checks. No Christmas bonuses. No holidays to encourage whatever conspicuous consumption is left in the marketplace.

With this also being the tail end of model changeover time, you should be able to get this truck for a lot less than $62k+. Think about right around $54,000. At that price it’s worth considering.

 A press fleet company provided me with one full tank of gas, insurance, and one nice conversation for this review. This particular model came with a Power Sunroof ($895), 20” Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels ($850), 6” Tubular Chrome Assist Steps ($689), Front Heated & Cooled Seats ($650), Rear Vision Camera System ($450), and a Heated Steering Wheel ($150).I did run over an opossum during the course of this review. I’m thinking about getting it stuffed and taxidermied so I can use it as my profile picture on Facebook. .

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84 Comments on “Review: 700 Miles In A GMC Denali 2500 HD 4×4...”


  • avatar

    er….’lent [you] one full tank of gas’ ?

    I think not! ;-)

    * * *

    Used for their intended purpose, these trucks are in-freaking-credible. They’re also impossibly large, impossible to park and maneuver.

  • avatar
    APaGttH

    Given the interior shots don’t show a navigation screen, I’m going to guess this wasn’t the tested vehicle — or am I missing something?

    At 241 inches long please tell me it has a backup camera and ultra-sonic assist.

    • 0 avatar
      Steven Lang

      The pic I had of the Nav system seemed to be perfectly fine on the camera but came out a bit blurry when it was enlarged.

      It does indeed have back up camera with ultra-sonic assist. Both were a lifesaver when I had to park the rig on a narrow road near the Atlanta Zoo.

      • 0 avatar
        VelocityRed3

        I live in Smyrna & drive an 06 version of my handle. I bow down to you, that you got that thing anywhere NEAR Grant Park. I’m thinking just coming off of I-20 onto Boulevard had to be trouble ;)

  • avatar
    Volt 230

    I suppose that for wide open areas,they’re fine, but in most city conditions where parking spaces keep getting smaller and smaller, sometimes I find parking my Corolla a challenge.

  • avatar
    protomech

    You’ll only be paying for this truck for 5-6 years, but with a single Baruthian thrust you could be paying for 18-20 years.

  • avatar
    snabster

    I count my lucky stars that nobody I know owns one. Whew! Bullet dodged.

    • 0 avatar
      psarhjinian

      I know two, count’em, two people who drive TopKicks as family cars and a number of people who drive 250/2500 and 350/3500-series trucks.

      They’re like the slammed Acura Integra of the rural world.

  • avatar
    MrWhopee

    The interior is an embarrassment in a $62,000 vehicle. All of its domestic competitor has better looking interior. Strangely in this game the Japanese is way behind. The Tundra and Nissan’s interior is still that of a work truck’s. You’re right, it’s straight out of an Impala LTZ, but for the price it should look like it came out of a Cadillac.

    • 0 avatar
      Maymar

      It’s not the best looking interior, but I’ve found the materials to at least feel a little nicer than what Ford offers (even on the mega-buck Titanium). In my ever so humble opinion, the Ram has the nicest feeling interior of the three, plausibly because Chrysler knows it has less of the professional grade buyer’s market.

      Then again, I prefer GM’s work truck dashboard to the one used in the luxury trucks and the GMT 900 SUVs since there’s no way I’d spend this kind of money on a truck.

    • 0 avatar
      bumpy ii

      It’s the same approach GM takes with the Corvette: put a $40,000 drivetrain in a $10,000 car.

  • avatar
    ajla

    This truck can also haul 21,700 lbs. with a fifth wheel while comfortably going 80+ mph on the open road.

    Actually, your reviewed truck can only 5th wheel 15600 and conventional tow 13000. Max payload is 2631.

    The true hoss of the the fleet is the Denali 3500HD DRW. That truck has the 21000 5th wheel, 17000 conventional rating, and a 4004 max payload.

    • 0 avatar
      Steven Lang

      The specs I received from the press fleet company highlighted the stats I put down. I’m seeing varying results throughout other sites, so I’ll definitely change it once I hear back in the next 24 hours.

      • 0 avatar
        ajla

        I’ll definitely change it once I hear back in the next 24 hours.

        Please do because if they think a SRW crew cab 4×4 truck can safely 5th wheel tow over 20000lbs, they are dreaming in technicolor.

        And, that would mean GM’s published towing guide is wrong.

  • avatar
    stevevt

    I’m confused by the following:

    GMC’s nav system is not nearly as intuitive or seamless as the Sync on the 2012 Ford F-250. For example, I was able to locate a nearby hotel and have the number called while driving down the road using the nav system quite easily. Other primary functions are easy as well.

    The first and second sentence don’t work together.

    • 0 avatar
      ringomon

      I was just going to post the same thing- I wasn’t sure if it was my own (lack of) reading comprehension so I reread it a couple times.

      Michael- Are you saying that you could do those things (calling the hotel) with the Sync but not with this truck? Or that it was easier to do with the sync but more complicated of a procedure than with the GMC system? It doens’t quite read clearly.

      (Not that it matters to me. I’d probably buy a new combo Mazda3 + Tacoma + a overseas vacation before I got anywhere near something like this. Personal preference)

  • avatar
    brettc

    That thing is insane. I would never have a need for something like that but apparently some people need one or it wouldn’t exist. The interior does look a bit chintzy for a $62000 vehicle but I would imagine the engine makes you forget about the interior somewhat.

    Thanks for the advice about October and early November. If I buy new again maybe I should go shopping in that time frame.

  • avatar
    scottcom36

    Leather and carpet? This is not a work truck. This is a truck for towing a fifth wheel RV or a horse trailer.

  • avatar
    CJinSD

    I was wondering why the Audi dealer gave my friend an F250 diesel crew cab as a loaner when his S4 was in the shop for a month. I guess they’re just being good Philistines, knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing. Usually they just give him A4,5, or 6s as loaners, but they pulled out the comparably priced Ford truck when they knew it would take a while to get the parts his car needed.

  • avatar
    OldandSlow

    Does this truck really have a curb weight of 7500 lbs? If so, it must ride like a limo.

    • 0 avatar

      Then a semi truck must ride like a…Citroen DS?

      • 0 avatar
        RedStapler

        Depends on the Semi.

        I’ve driven Spartan 150″ WB spring ride Ford L9000s that will rattle the fillings out of your teeth. On the other end of the spectrum I driven in a VN series Volvo that had better NVH most luxury cars.

    • 0 avatar
      rpn453

      My buddy has a non-Denali version of the 2007 GMC 2500 and I’d call the ride poor. The frame is very flexy and there’s so much unsprung weight in the rear axle that every bump sends shudders through the cab. This is pretty typical for a truck, but the equivalent Dodge, despite being a little more stiffly sprung, seems to have a much stiffer frame in torsion and does not suffer from this nearly as badly, even with a solid front axle. However, watch out for the death wobble and disintegrating tie-rod ends when the front end of the Dodge is worn out after 20k miles!

  • avatar
    Mandalorian

    This is one nice truck. I found the cloth seats on the 1500 to be quite comfortable, it surprised me actually. GM has come a long way on seat comfort.

  • avatar
    aristurtle

    Gas mileage? 1 highway… 0 city.

    • 0 avatar
      jdhall

      Infinite gas mileage. It’s a diesel.

      I expect the (fuel) mileage is in the 17-18 mpg range, unladen. But it would be nice to know.

      • 0 avatar
        BoredOOMM

        I know of one that was parked after purchase. Seems the GMC Diesel Duramax mpg was 12-14 while the Silverado was 18-21. The lamentation was not only lower mpg but at that time $4000 increase for the Heavy Dino Fuel engine.

        Compare this to the F-250’s and you will KNOW why GM is not gaining ground in truck sales either.

      • 0 avatar
        Steven Lang

        18 mpg on the nose with a light foot in mixed driving. 20 mpg by the grace of god on the highway with no load and hypermiling tendencies.

  • avatar
    Prado

    Dear GM. Front bumper is rediculously low, or the rest of the truck is rediculously high for the given ground clearance. Fix one or the other if you want me to beleive this is anything other than an expensive posermobile.

    • 0 avatar
      chuckrs

      Dear GM Thanks for remembering most vehicles on the road are low enough relative this monster that a higher bumper would be a safety threat.

      It is a posermobile; around my neck of the woods, real workmen are buying Sprinters and Transits. Except maybe masons……who’ve won the lottery.

      • 0 avatar
        aspade

        The bumper height standard is around 18″. That goofy looking chin dragging 12″ off the ground is just an air dam, it’ll break off on a snow drift much less another car.

      • 0 avatar
        mikey

        A Sprinter or a Transit doesn’t work for all real workmen.

      • 0 avatar
        Brian P

        Sprinters and Transits (and plenty of other competitors) work fine for workmen in Europe. You don’t see pickups over there. Everyone with a job to do in Europe, drives vans of all possible shapes and sizes.

      • 0 avatar
        Sinistermisterman

        +1 BrianP
        Exactly, and I have worked with tradesmen on both sides of the Atlantic. Only in North America does a plumber/waller/roofer/landscaper think that he needs a truck with enough torque to twist the planet in the opposite direction. In my previous job in the UK I’ve towed a metric ton of aggregate in a trailer behind a 1.5L Turbodiesel Renault Kangoo (look it up!) with few problems, whilst here in Canada my boss believes it necessary to rent a 1 ton pickup to move some box files out of storage.

      • 0 avatar
        stuki

        In most of Europe, workmen fix existing structures in already developed areas. In America, people abandon existing structures, and hire workmen to build entire new subdivisions in the middle of nowhere, before there is power and paved roads.

        The latter requires much more in the way of heavy and bulky materials than the former, and more off road worthy vehicles. While the former puts a premium on vehicles that actually fit in developed areas.

        Of course, now that both Europe and America is bankrupt, nobody neither fixes nor builds anything.

      • 0 avatar
        Scoutdude

        Real workman in the US are finding out that buying a Sprinter is a good way to go bankrupt. $13K transmissions on 3-4 year old less than 50K mile rig pretty much kills them.

  • avatar
    Educator(of teachers)Dan

    Don’t need, don’t want, unless you’re a contractor (but then you wouldn’t want leather) or you sell all your worldly goods to live the rest of your life towing a 5th wheel trailer accross country, I don’t see the point either. But having said that… I defend the owners right to drive it. I just wish that trucks and SUVs weren’t the only thing that GM can make money on.

    • 0 avatar
      doctor olds

      @EducatorDan- GM is now making money on every car and truck in the lineup, including the only subcompact built in America, Chevy Sonic. They do still make more on trucks, especially GMCs, but their new cost structure makes everything left profitable these days.

      Bear in mind that some folks have the wherewithal to buy one of these without a second thought, though it is pricey for the average consumer.

      It has always troubled me that GM is criticized for dominating the most profitable volume segments in America, large pickups and SUVs.

      GM, with production of 522,000 in the first 6 months of 2011, enjoys over twice the platform production volume of next place Toyota’s Camry/Sienna/… at 260,000 and Ford, at 242,000 during.

      Vehicles like this Sierra are part of the reason GM also commands the highest average transaction prices of any of the full line makers.

      • 0 avatar
        Scoutdude

        Yeah silly GM making and selling vehicles with huge profit margins that people actually want.

        You lost me though with the Ford, at 242K during. 242K what? It is also important to note that while GM produced far more trucks than Ford they also had a huge number of them sitting on lots. I understand some of that was due to the fact that they were supposedly stock piling them for the retooling shut down.

  • avatar
    Mathias

    “However October and the first fifteen days of November is an absolute dead zone in the car business. ”

    Is that for new cars or also for the cheaper end of the used market? I was led to believe that between Thanksgiving and Christmas was when the goofy deals happen, because everyone is working on their balance sheets.

    I just helped a colleague buy a very well-kept ’03 Acura TL private party and was amazed that we actually got a reasonable deal… I guess dead zones are useful.

  • avatar
    Monty

    I was parked beside one of these last week at Costco – my 2WD Sierra looked positively puny beside it.

    Not my cup of tea, but if that’s what floats somebody’s boat, all the power to them. Of course, I’d just take the $65K and pay off what little remains of my mortgage and buy a new Fiat 500C for Mrs. Monty and then go to Vegas for a couple of weeks.

  • avatar
    golden2husky

    My friend’s Duramax pulls like a locomotive, even on a steep hill with a SeaRay behind it. It is a unique feeling…interior quality is nice but not exceptional. Seat comfort is really nice…driven like grandma it will return a 20 MPG on the highway. Pretty impressive for a massive beast.

    • 0 avatar
      doctor olds

      @golden2husky- I ran into a guy in Australia last year with a GMC Sierra 2500 that he said cost “only” $95,000 after conversion to RHD. He raved about pulling his SeaRay up the hills right past the best Toyotas, which he said cost over $110K in that market!

  • avatar
    thx_zetec

    The US leads the world in GDP (Giant Diesel Pickups). I think this a big reason that Ford’s Panther platform went out of production, the V8/Frame/RWD/Big-Iron crowd now buys trucks for daily transport.

    Don’t expect these things to go away, there are many factors keeping them going. First people still love the big iron. Secondly gas is going down, plus Big3 have achieved truly amazing ton*miles/gallon for their Nimitz-class trucks. CAFE will kick in for regular pickups, raising their cost and reducing their utility whilst these will be less regulated (this is similar to how last round of CAFE increased SUV sales. The vehicle over reg. size limit gets bought, even if it is too big. FInally there are very generous provisions in the US tax code for depreciating giant trucks.

    Me, I don’t like ‘em. But the way gas prices are going I’m afraid they will increase in popularity.

    • 0 avatar
      psarhjinian

      The US leads the world in GDP (Giant Diesel Pickups). I think this a big reason that Ford’s Panther platform went out of production, the V8/Frame/RWD/Big-Iron crowd now buys trucks for daily transport.

      That was one of the points made in the Panther Eulogy a few weeks back, and yes, it’s largely true. If you like driving what amounts to a car simulator, then yes, this is as good as it gets.

      Personally, I hate driving both.

  • avatar
    Dave M.

    I’d bet a paycheck you could land it for under $50k.

    Not a big GM fan, or one of big trucks, but to me simpler design is better, and the GMC is probably the best on the market….

    18 mpg is surprisingly…good…..

  • avatar
    rpn453

    The rear space is small compared to competitors and although an unusually upright position may be fine for kids and teens, your adult friends may not be happy if you take them on a road trip.

    Has it gotten smaller since ’07? I did a 4500 mile road trip last year in an ’07 GMC 2500 (leather interior) with three of my buddies and my only complaint about the seating accommodations is that the bottom cushions are too soft. The average height of our group was over 6′ tall, and our tallest guy (6’4″) didn’t appear to mind sitting back there for half the trip. It was a decent road trip vehicle and it allowed us to carry a huge amount of stuff under the bed cover.

    The Allison transmissions in these things are great, as far as automatics go. Seamless power delivery and very little slushiness, especially when you lock the torque converter with tow/haul mode.

    • 0 avatar
      doctor olds

      @Moparman426W- Bingo! This vehicle is being discussed in the context of daily transportation rather than towing/ load carrying capability, which is its purpose in life. The Denali package is for the buyer who wants capability, plus a classier, uplevel trim.

      If you just want a truck with occasional light load carrying capability, an XFE would be a better choice.

  • avatar
    Moparman426W

    Why would you test a 3/4 ton diesel just to tool around in without even hauling or towing anything? I would have went with a gas powered half ton if all I wanted to do is cruise down the highway.

  • avatar
    Scoutdude

    At this point we don’t really have a accurate picture of Ford’s current self built Diesel. The problems with the Navistar sourced 6.0 were certainly a black eye for Ford but that engine is long gone replaced by the Navistar sourced 6.4 which itself is long gone due to the 6.0 reliability caused divorce. So since it is an all new clean sheet design it will be a few years before we have a clear picture of the 6.7’s long term reliability and durability.

    The Duramax had lots of issues with the early versions but now that it’s all sorted out it is a very reliable, durable, and powerful engine. We had a guy working for us for a short while that came from a local Chevy dealer, pretty much the only thing he did for a number of years was Duramax injectors, day in day out.

  • avatar
    Moparman426W

    @ Scoutdude, if they don’t have the proper equipment for testing trucks then their time would be better spent testing cars, and leaving truck tests to truck trend and the like. I agree that Gm has done alot with the duramax over the past couple of years, but it doesn’t hold a candle to the cummins as far as longevity goes. They are known to go over a million miles, which is why they are so popular with RV’ers.

    • 0 avatar
      Scoutdude

      Moparman, my point was that he likely didn’t have a choice of a 1/2 ton or a car. They offered the model tested so he said yes, pretty simple. Sure he could have said no, and went back to the bottom of the list. I’m also betting that if he said “No thanks” a couple of times that he would mysteriously get lost on the list.

      The problem with the Cummins is that you have to rebuild the truck around the engine….if you could only get glider kits.

      • 0 avatar
        Steven Lang

        You’re right. The elves drop off the vehicle and I always say ‘thank you very much’.

        There are other sites on the web that do better work on pickup trucks (pickuptrucks.com would be one site I can definitely endorse.)

        I have owned about 60 to 70 pickups over the years. I know how to use them quite well. But it’s also a matter of this truck being someone elses property. In this case a truck with a $62,000 MSRP that would soon be returned to the manufacturer.

      • 0 avatar
        Scoutdude

        Steven, That is what I expected, thanks for confirming it.

  • avatar
    obbop

    “This truck can also haul 21,700 lbs”

    Or, roughly, the typical combined weight of a hillbilly lard-laden family of five atop the Ozark Plateau of southwest Missouri.

    Actually, little excessive commentary if one actually views the all-too-common inhabitants of an area where a few minutes caloric intake generally greatly exceeds the combined measured mentality of a family unit.

  • avatar
    Moparman426W

    Scout, your comment about the truck needing rebulit around the cummins was very ignorant, as well as the one about the 13k trans in the “mercedes” sprinter.
    Whether or not people have trouble with transmissions in sprinters I do not know, because I am not into mercedes products. But a quick google for the prices on sprinter transmissions shows a range from 2500 to 4500, which is a bit steep. Someone would have to be a complete idiot to pay over 13k for a tranny.
    obbop, no 3/4 ton single wheel pickup will tow 22k lbs. The diesel in this truck has more than enough grunt, but the rest of the truck is not up to the task. Towing that much weight requires a one ton dualie.

  • avatar
    Moparman426W

    rebuilt*

  • avatar
    Buckshot

    A completely waste of metal and money.
    No one needs it. It´s the Viper of trucks.
    Want to go fast? Buy an AMG
    Need to transport something big? Get a hitch and a trailer.
    For work? Mercedes Sprinter.

  • avatar
    Buckshot

    The other way around here. No one here would be caught dead in an American pickupmonster. A Mercedes on the other hand shows that you have made it, or at least that you have some class.
    Yes, i´m from Europe and proud of it :)

  • avatar
    Moparman426W

    And how does buying a Mercedes automatically give a person class? Class is not something that can be bought. Class has nothing to do with how much money one makes or the material things that they have.
    What gives a person class is the way that they act and treat others.
    People with class come from all walks of life, as well as white trash.

    • 0 avatar
      Buckshot

      No buying a Mercedes doesn´t automatically gives you class, but you are at least trying :)

      Driving a truck tells other people that you go to Mc Donalds when you´re celebrating something important.
      You don´t care about how you look, or how other people look at you.
      You don´t care about the earth.
      You don´t care about other people.

  • avatar
    jbltg

    Funny you should point out this often overlooked irony.

    Here in LA, loads of people with no class, manners or any form of consideration drive these stupid things, along with the even worse BMW drivers and the lowest of the low: Range/Land Rover.

    At least there is some justice delivered by the low quality and high maintenance and insurance suffered.

  • avatar
    Moparman426W

    I go to Mcdonald’s, and I like beer and pickup trucks and it suits me just fine. Judging by the size of the homes that some Mercedes owners live in it looks to me like maybe they are the ones that don’t care about the earth.

  • avatar
    thecavanaughs

    Wait- 0-60 in 7.4 and we are calling it fast? The Tundra with the 5.7 is in every possible way a work truck, and it does 0-60 in 6.3 on paper and between 6.0 and 6.2 in real life. The world has changed, 0-60 in 7.4 is not fast enough to brag about, even in a work truck.

  • avatar
    Moparman426W

    Cavanaugh, I am no fan of GM, But I have to defend this truck in this case. This truck , being a 3/4 ton 4 door with a diesel enigne weighs AT LEAST 1,000 more pounds than a tundra. I’m sorry but a 7.4 0-60 time in something that weighs well north of 6,000lbs. with the frontal area of a barn door is mighty impressive.
    The tundra doesn’t even come in a 3/4 ton model, so it is what one would call a “light duty” work truck. Something to be used by the pest control guy or maybe a plumber or as a “meals on wheels” truck, or something of that sort. I happen to be a roofer, and a tundra would be useless to me.

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    bad_vee

    That puny appendage is not a “regular box.” If it’s not eight feet long, it’s a short box. Only somebody who doesn’t really need a truck would consider that glorified trunk “regular.”

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    thecavanaughs

    Right- it isn’t fast because it is heavy. I didn’t say there wasn’t a reason that it isn’t fast. I just said it isn’t fast… because it isn’t.

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    Oilfield Trucker

    So maybe I am a lil late on this post, but I just bought a brand new 2013 Denali HD and ABSOLUTELY LOVE it!! I think the interior is just fine and immaculate. The engine has more power and for sure more torque than most sports cars. And it DEFINITELY goes!! The ride isn’t always the best, but what do you expect from a 3/4 ton pickup?? Like I said I am happier than hell and proud to be a new Denali HD owner!


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