Ask The Best And Brightest: Is A New Dodge Magnum A No-Brainer Or A Flop Waiting To Happen?

Edward Niedermeyer
by Edward Niedermeyer

A few weeks back, SRT CEO and Chrysler Group Design boss Ralph Gilles hinted that a new LX-platform station wagon could be coming back, as the NYT reported:

“With the Magnum, we owned the station wagon segment,” Mr. Gilles said. “It was always a pleasure to go to car shows and trade fairs and see the number of Magnums that owners had personalized with such obvious loving care.”

Asked if a design for a second-generation Magnum might be found in one of his sketch pads, Mr. Gilles just smiled.

“Stay tuned,” he said. “Great things are coming. That’s all I can say.”

But now Gilles is changing his tune completely, telling the Fox Car Report that the rumor simply came about because the launch event was held in California (one of the Magnum’s biggest markets), and Gilles noted that he saw them “everywhere” and that every one of them was customized. While noting that the he “needs to get to the bottom of that” customized Magnum phenomenon, Gilles made it clear that the “rumor” was just him waxing nostalgic and that “we’re focusing on the products we have.”

But if Chrysler is desperate to make inroads in California, and the Magnum resonated there, might there be some sense in a neo-Magnum? After all, Sergio Marchionne has noted with disapproval how few variations are available for the LX platform, and said he would not have re-invested in an update if it were up to him (and really, putting an LX update ahead of a good C- or D-segment platform was a pretty shockingly poor business decision). On the other hand, the Magnum only ever had one year over 50k units… and that might not even be worth the cost of even a rebody. What say you?



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  • ScottMcG ScottMcG on Jul 28, 2011

    I dunno - I'd probably bite on a new Dodge or Chrysler wagon version of their new cars. I just finished a round of shopping for a wagon of similar size and ended up with a very well-maintained 2004 E320 wagon. A Magnum would have been a no-brainer except for the interior. In the end, it was a toss-up between a Volvo V70, the Benz, and an A6 wagon. I love having a car with the additional utility of the wagon back-end, and don't like driving SUVs. I don't know how big the market is, but if it's not a huge change from the sedan version then it may be worth the cost to make it. I don't know what the numbers look like for Audi, MB, or BMW on sales for the wagon versions of their mid-sized sedans, but it can't be that high. But for some of us, it's exactly what we want. If I'm buying a wagon and being completely honest about how I'm going to use it, then I don't give a crap about manual transmission, diesel, blah blah. I want car ride/handling/economy, the utility of the wagon back-end, and something comfortable for my family to take on a road trip. A stick and/or an oil burner are bonuses, but I still live in North America and am something of a realist. The Mercedes fills the bill very nicely for me, but I've got a warranty to cover the (serious) gremlins I'm likely to encounter over the next few years. When it's time to replace it, I'm going to look for something similar in terms of size and shape. If there's a Charger or 300 wagon out there, it's likely to be at the top of my list. Otherwise, I'll go looking for whatever is available. I'd love to buy an American car, but only if they're making what I want. It's too bad the interiors were so bad on the Chryslers. I would much rather have spent less and gotten a Magnum, but I spend 3 hours a day in the car and didn't feel like punishing myself that bad.

  • Armadamaster Armadamaster on Jul 29, 2011

    I didn't understand why they canceled it in 2008...other than they uglied up the front clip on it. Which I noticed made it onto the 2011 300 now instead. The problem with the Magnum was it was a hatchback, not a wagon, no 3rd row seating kills it for actual wagon shoppers. I have a B-body Caprice wagon and love it, and 3rd row seating is mandatory.

  • Analoggrotto Junior Soprano lol
  • GrumpyOldMan The "Junior" name was good enough for the German DKW in 1959-1963:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DKW_Junior
  • Philip I love seeing these stories regarding concepts that I have vague memories of from collector magazines, books, etc (usually by the esteemed Richard Langworth who I credit for most of my car history knowledge!!!). On a tangent here, I remember reading Lee Iacocca's autobiography in the late 1980s, and being impressed, though on a second reading, my older and self realized why Henry Ford II must have found him irritating. He took credit for and boasted about everything successful being his alone, and sidestepped anything that was unsuccessful. Although a very interesting about some of the history of the US car industry from the 1950s through the 1980s, one needs to remind oneself of the subjective recounting in this book. Iacocca mentioned Henry II's motto "Never complain; never explain" which is basically the M.O. of the Royal Family, so few heard his side of the story. I first began to question Iacocca's rationale when he calls himself "The Father of the Mustang". He even said how so many people have taken credit for the Mustang that he would hate to be seen in public with the mother. To me, much of the Mustang's success needs to be credited to the DESIGNER Joe Oros. If the car did not have that iconic appearance, it wouldn't have become an icon. Of course accounting (making it affordable), marketing (identifying and understanding the car's market) and engineering (building a car from a Falcon base to meet the cost and marketing goals) were also instrumental, as well as Iacocca's leadership....but truth be told, I don't give him much credit at all. If he did it all, it would have looked as dowdy as a 1980s K-car. He simply did not grasp car style and design like a Bill Mitchell or John Delorean at GM. Hell, in the same book he claims credit for the Brougham era four-door Thunderbird with landau bars (ugh) and putting a "Rolls-Royce grille" on the Continental Mark III. Interesting ideas, but made the cars look chintzy, old-fashioned and pretentious. Dean Martin found them cool as "Matt Helm" in the late 1960s, but he was already well into middle age by then. It's hard not to laugh at these cartoon vehicles.
  • Dwford The real crime is not bringing this EV to the US (along with the Jeep Avenger EV)
  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Another Hyunkia'sis? 🙈
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