By on February 25, 2011

The first issue that any reviewer must face is perspective. Whether it’s a $70,000 Jaguar or a $15,000 Chevy you have to maintain an appropriate perspective. You have to be fair to the product you’re reviewing while putting it into proper context for your readers. When Jaguar told me that a 2011 XF Supercharged was available for me to test, my first thought was the same as yours would be, “Goody, goody. What’s not to like?” My second thought was to email the other writers and ask if Michael Karesh or Jack Baruth could do a better job on the review. Michael test drives a variety of luxury cars, and Jack’s pretty familiar with high-end sporting machinery, but I have absolutely no experience with 470 HP, loaded-to-the-gunnels luxury sports sedans. I can’t tell you if it’s better or worse than competing cars because I haven’t driven those competing cars. The time with the Jaguar was bookended by a Mazda3 and a Kia Sportage. Not exactly ideal perspectives from which to view a luxury performance car. Notwithstanding my personal reservations, Ed and the other editors told me to go for it, so…

With a base MSRP of $67,150, the XF Supercharged fits between the lower trim and performance XFs and the 510 HP XFR, priced exactly $12,000 more. No Jaguar can be a Q-car, but compared to the XFR the XF Supercharged is definitely a sleeper. For that extra 12 large you get an additional 40 horsepower out of the supercharged version of Jaguar’s new 5.0L DOHC V8, a more aggressive body kit, a different hood (bonnet) and a wire mesh grille. That’s just about it. The XF Supercharged is much more subtle than the XFR. To all but the most discerning Jaguar enthusiast, it’s a plain vanilla XF but the XF Supercharged has all of the XFR’s chassis upgrades, including bigger brakes, upgraded shocks and springs and Jaguars superb Active Differential Control, which uses an electric motor built into the rear end to control wheel slip. Oh, and an additional 85 horsepower over the base XF. There might be one or two luxury options available on the XFR not offered on the Supercharged, but for the most part the XF Supercharged and the XFR are mechanically identical, and have the same equipment except for the additional power. The only available options that this car did not have were Adaptive Cruise Control, inflatable side seat bolsters, and special paint. The press fleet car that I was loaned was painted in a handsome and understated medium pewter that shows of the body contours well.


Yes, Virginia, that’s Detroit

The XF Supercharged already comes with most of the available XF features as standard, so the only optional equipment my test car had was the $350 heated windshield and the $500 “jet” Alcantara headliner. I don’t know if it’s worth 500 bucks for a nice headliner and A pillar trim but it does add a capping touch to what is already a very luxurious and nicely appointed car. There’s so much leather in the cabin that between the fully leather upholstered seats, the leather covered steering-wheel, the stitched leather on the door panels and the stitched hide covering the dashboard I could still smell leather on me while sitting at my desk hours after leaving the car. Everything is real, the leather, the wood and the brushed aluminum. The wood is as one would expect in a proper British luxury car, finished better than fine furniture. All the switchwork has a silky feel to the controls while also imparting a sense of stolidity. Speaking of switchwork, this XF has the newer glove box release switch, an actual pushbutton that Jaguar has spec’d in response to complaints that the original touch sensitive switch was a bit too touch sensitive.

Actually, I shouldn’t say that all of the controls worked well. Alex Dykes, in his recent review of the XK, alluded to Jaguar’s oft-complained-about infotainment system. The UK is home to a number of audiophile equipment companies so it’s no surprise that the Bowers & Wilkinson sound system (440 watts, 13 speakers plus a subwoofer, Dolby ProLogic II Surround Sound) sounds great, with good imaging, natural highs and clear bass. It has all the head unit bells and whistles too: Bluetooth, Sirius, Voice-activated controls, Nav with voice-guidance, AM/FM/HD, 6 disc CD changer, USB, iPod control, and an aux in.

Regardless of the source it’s a real a pleasure to listen to the B&W system. For additional aural enjoyment, filtered engine sounds are discreetly piped into the cabin. Jaguar’s done a fine job tuning the exhaust and controlling underhood noises because under heavy acceleration you hear a Jaguar’s roar, not the blower’s soprano whine. The controls for the audio and navigation system, though, are clunky. The touch-screen reacts very slowly and you have to be fairly precise where you put your finger or you’ll miss what you’re trying to activate. Selecting an audio source is time consuming since you cannot directly access any of the functions, you have keep pressing the “source” button and scroll through the choices. Having remote controls on the steering wheel are nice, but the control sequences are not thought out well.

Hey, where’s that abandoned train station?

One might think you’d get tired of the XF’s “handshaking” procedure. As you probably know if you’ve read anything about current Jaguars, when you power up the car, the ventilation grilles rotate open from their power off position and the round gear shift knob rises up out of the console. Perhaps small minds are amused by small things but I found it entertaining every time. I don’t know if Jaguar was expecting owners to just sit in the car and gaze at its features when it’s powered down, but the dashboard does look pretty snazzy all closed up.

The seats are comfortable, though the driver’s seat cushion’s bolsters could have been more substantial. The dual zone climate control was, as it should be, imperceptible. Like Mr. Popeil says, set it and forget it. The heated seats and steering wheel get warm very quickly. All the automatic gizmos worked automatically. The rain sensing wipers also sense the amount of rain and adjust their speed accordingly. It’s been a long time since wipers sped up and slowed down as manifold vacuum varied. I wonder if younger people realize just how amazing technology is today.

Would the Packard Plant make a better backdrop?

Whenever a car company comes out with an obviously not-ready-for-production concept car, there are people who criticize, saying that it’s a waste of money that could be used to better develop production cars. Still, if you look at the show cars of the 1950s and 1960s you’ll find that all sorts of features that are now commonplace were first proposed on some kind of outlandish concept vehicle. While some “concepts” are just pie in the sky, eg. Ford’s Nucleon, others are pretty accurate predictions about things that might improve the driving experience. In the 1950s before the recently departed Chuck Jordan rose to head GM styling, he designed the Buick Centurion Motorama car. The Centurion had no rear view mirror. Instead it had a camera in the back and a CRT screen in the dashboard. Science fiction in 1955, standard equipment today. I’m predicting that it won’t take half a century for the thin film transistor liquid crystal display (TFT-LCD) touch screens used in Jaguar’s C-X75 concept to show up in a car that you drive.

No abandoned homes. Your sure this is Detroit?

And driving is what the XF Supercharged is about. Dynamically, the XF Supercharged is greatly rewarding to drive. Even though it’s made mostly out of aluminum, and it has a curb weight of just over 4,300 lbs. so you can’t exactly call the car tossable, but it is nimble. Like a big man who is a good dancer, the XF Supercharged is light on its feet. It never lost its composure or made an awkward move. With a 0-60 time of 4.9 seconds those moves are made quickly.

Steering is also quick, I measured 2.75 turns lock to lock. That’s Lotus Elan level quick steering. With two tons of aluminum, leather and polymers to change direction, and fat P255/35ZR20 tires in front (P285/30ZR20s in the rear) steering that quick requires substantial power assist. Effort is just right, with good feel for where the front end is. The variable assist works flawlessly. Maybe a dab more weight would have made it perfect for me but I don’t think anyone will find fault with the XF Supercharged’s steering. Turn in is precise, with just the slightest bit of understeer for safety. That understeer, though, can be easily balanced with your right foot anytime even with the nannies on. I hate roundabouts because I’m a cyclist but I discovered they can be fun when you have a powerful and properly sorted out car to drive. It was just a little bit slippery out and I was able to do a modest drift all through the rotary without having to deactivate anything. The Active Differential Control is very impressive.

C’mon, south of 8 Mile? Don’t be a kidder!

Anyone thinking that this car is underpowered, that they must have the additional 40 ponies that come with the XFR either has been exposed to some very rarefied machinery or they just really really like really really fast Jaguars. Michigan State Police troopers may judiciously allow you to maybe drive a little faster than their counterparts south of the border collecting revenue in Ohio, but I’m not going to explore the performance limits of a 470 horsepower car. I’m certainly not going to need to find out how fast 510 will do. Even with “just” 470 HP, I found myself inadvertently doing 90mph entering the freeway. From a dead stop at full throttle the traction control will kick as it upshifts to both second and third. There is always enough power to do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it, at least on the street.

That’s John & Horace’s place on the left

That gear selector can be moved over one position from Drive, to Sport. The sport setting changes the engine and transmission mapping for more immediate response. An additional control will stiffen the suspension and speeds up the steering ratio. As a car guy I’m embarrassed to say that for the most part I left all of the settings in normal mode and hardly used the paddle shifters either. With 470 horsepower and an already sophisticated suspension, steering and rear end, do you really need “sport” settings? Drivers who take their XF to the track will appreciate them, and they do make a perceptible difference but on the street the gear shift’s S mode is like painting the lily and the performance suspension setting is gilding refined gold.

Brakes are all you’d ever need on the street. The rotors have larger diameters than the tires on some cars that I’ve driven. While they sometimes can be a little bit grabby after sitting, from surface rust on the rotors, for the most part the brakes worked very well, with good modulation control. I tried some 0-50-0 runs (on a 400′ driveway) and the ABS and other nannies worked unobtrusively. The good braking performance comes at a price: brake dust. After a week and about 500 miles of driving the 20” aluminum wheels were coated with brake pad dust. A friend leases a non-supercharged ’11 XF, with smaller brakes and he says that he also has to wash the brake dust off frequently.


Heaping big brakes means heaps of brake dust. The shiny spot is where
I wiped
some of it away.


Rear wheels too. The brakes, though, work great.

Suspension is a little firmer than I expected, but it seems to me that folks who buy the Supercharged version will expect a sportier ride.

I don’t know if the Superchaged has the upgraded torque converter and additional clutch plates equipped on the XFR, but the six-speed ZF automatic transmission worked flawlessly.

Like most well equipped cars today, the XF Supercharged comes with a backup camera. Since this is a luxury car and even Kia now offers a cam, to make it special yellow guide lines are superimposed on the image to guide you as you back up. The guidelines curve according to steering wheel position. Perhaps in time I’ll appreciate backup cams but for now I think they’re a hazard. It’s one thing to be looking in your rear view mirror while going backwards. You’re looking up and you can still see motion in your peripheral vision. However, looking forward and down when you’re backing up is a formula for disaster. Mandating backup cameras may save 300 kids a year from getting backed over in the driveway, but I suspect such wide scale use will get even more kids hurt or worse when traffic on the street t-bones people paying close attention to the backup screen on their instrument panels. Backup cameras have very poor peripheral vision.

A couple of words about styling: like it. Some feel that the XF is a bit nondescript (a neighbor called it a cross between a Jaguar and a Lexus). I think that’s because the car has that rear window / C pillar with the BMW kink that you see on the Malibu and Altima, but most of the car is original and the styling grew on me over the week. I’m an old XJ owner and as the week went on it started looking more and more like a Jaguar and I started noticing more signature styling elements. The rear of the car is perfect, even if it recalls Ian Callum’s work for Aston Martin. Nobody ever called an Aston ugly. Michael Karesh recently discussed the long overhang of the Kia Optima. Large overhangs are a necessary consequence of front wheel drive packaging needs. You need a lot of space to fit the engine and transmission under the hood. Looking at the XF, one knows right away that it’s a RWD car. The front wheels are pushed to the extreme corners of the car. That visually lengthens the long flanks of the car. Those long flanks, smooth save for a character line near the bottom of the doors, started reminding me of a classic XJ. The flanks flow into rear haunches that Jaguars must have. The beltline has a subtle wedge that combined with the wheels pushed out to the corners gives the car a purposeful stance. Surprisingly for a short guy in a wedgey car, visibility was acceptable (few modern cars have good visibility). I still hate fender gills but at least the XF’s were designed in from scratch. Jaguar adding gills to the last traditional XJ was a travesty. These don’t look half bad.

For the most part I came away very impressed with the XF Supercharged, though it’s likely that I would feel the same about any cars in its class. There aren’t that many crappy cars in that price range. Still, it’s not perfect. While it may be less expensive than German competitors (well, at least the base XF is), the higher powered Cadillac CTS-V is about $10K cheaper than the XF Supercharged. Of course for that ten grand you’re getting the cachet of a Jaguar and not being the samo samo luxury brand is part of Jaguar’s appeal. Gas mileage was about what you’d expect from a perpetual adolescent driving a high powered car. I averaged ~14mpg for the week and when I was driving enthusiastically the instantaneous rate dropped into the single digits. There’s the aforementioned severe brake dust issue and my issues with the infotainment system. Come to think of it, there’s another issue with that system. I decided to use the Jag to pick my mom up at the airport and managed to get stuck at the curb at the wrong terminal. It took 5-10 minutes for things to clear up enough to pull away. In the meantime, the parking assist nannies are warning me that there’s a car next to me. I’m not blind, I can see it. The nannies also mute the stereo when they’re active. Dammit, I know that I’m backing up, I still want to listen to the flipping song I have on, not the stupid nanny chime. Perhaps if I had RTFM I could have muted Mary Poppins.

The only quality control issue that I noticed was in the windshield lamination. I don’t know if it’s because the glass is heated or if they did a poor job in laminating the safety glass, but at night there was a noticeable interference pattern in the glass. It didn’t affect visibility but there was a star effect around oncoming headlights.

There was also, surprisingly, a driveability issue. Well, that might be a bit too strong, but right off of dead idle the car hesitates. It’s not a stumble, just a hesitation. I started to mention it to one of the fleet company’s drivers and he finished my sentence, so it’s not just me. My guess is that it’s either due to fuel efficiency concerns or that with 470 horsepower, Jaguar didn’t want wheel spins at every green light, so the throttle is mapped that way. Either way it’s so out of character compared to how the car performs in all other circumstances that it stands out.

Other than those few quibbles, I thought the XF Supercharged was damn near perfect. Alex and Michael, who have more experience than I do with cars in this segment might be more critical than me, but as long as someone else was making the payments and paying for the gasoline and insurance, I could be very comfortable using the XF Supercharged as my daily driver. If Jaguar had asked me if I wanted to test the XFR, I would have said “Goody, goody, what’s not to like?” Who wouldn’t want 40 more horsepower in almost any car? But I’m not convinced I’d spend the money on the XFR if I had it. The XF comes in four flavors: base, premium, Supercharged and R. The base car is $52K and the premium trim model is $56,000. So the difference between the XF premium and the Supercharged is about $11,000, close to the difference between the Supercharged and the XFR. For about half of the additional cost of the XFR, you get 2/3rds the power increase and all of the other go fast parts. If you must have those extra 40 horses, I’m not going to tell you that it’s a waste of money, but if the XFR is worth $80K, then the XF Supercharged is a bargain.

Note: Jaguar of North America provided the XF Supercharged and insurance for a week plus a tank of premium gas. The nice folks at the office of Woodlawn Cemetery in Detroit helped me find the Dodge brothers. The other photos were taken in the Palmer Woods neighborhood of Detroit.


It’s December and the world seems filled with Michigan grey. On a bootleg mp3 Dylan’s singing Paul Simon about brown leaves and a sky in a hazy shade of winter. Perfect day to be tramping around a cemetery looking for famous dead guys who made cars. Rich and famous Detroiters are at Woodlawn. Auto magnates like Edsel and his good friend Roy. Politicians, car guys. Car guys turned politicians. Entertainers. Lots of entertainers. Aretha’s daddy, Rev. C.L. Franklin, is there, as are her siblings and in the office they told me she’d be joining them. And of course, Motown. Eddie Kendricks, what a tragedy, he’s there. So are a couple of the Spinners. Rubberband Man would make you smile even in a cemetery (yeah, I know they weren’t on Motown, but they’re from NW Detroit). But as soon as I saw the name on their list of celebrities, I knew I had to pay my respects to James Jamerson, the man who put the funk in the Funk Brothers, the bass player in Motown’s house band. It was bitter cold, and it’s a flat marker in the ground. The wrong number was written down, the grave was hard to find. It was bitter cold and I started walking every grave in that section. Finally after a call or two to the nice lady in the office, cemetery office workers are the most helpful people you’ll find, I was able to pay my respects. There were some artificial flowers in the urn on James Jamerson’s marker. I saw no flowers at the Dodge brothers’ tomb. John and Horace drank like fishes, died young. James liked to get a good buzz on too, also left us too soon. The Dodges had storied mansions and people see the name Dodge every day. Hardly anybody knows the name Jamerson was but his music will make people dance forever. I turned on the heated seats and steering wheel of the Jaguar, dialed up the ACC a couple of degrees, put the fan on manual, and pulled out on to Woodward. RIP, James, Horace, John, Roy & Edsel.

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38 Comments on “2011 Jaguar XF Supercharged Review...”


  • avatar
    william442

    THE Packard plant is in Warren, Ohio. According to the Vindicator it is about to be torn down.
    Thanks for a great review. I will probably visit the local dealer, even though I am a confirmed AMG addict.

    • 0 avatar
      geozinger

      @William 442: The one off of Rt 5? I know Delphi shifted a lot of work out to the airport, I didn’t hear about the plant being demolished.
       
      Correct me if I’m wrong, I think Ronnie is referring to the big Packard plant in Detroit, the one that everyone uses as a backdrop to show how awful Detroit is. Kind of like the pictures of Albert Street, when describing what a hell hole Youngstown is…
       
      So weary of that tired allegory. As long as those towns allow themselves to be described that way, little will change in the popular perception.

    • 0 avatar

      “Allow themselves to be described this way?” This isn’t Libya–the government cannot control what people say about a city.
      Personally, I believe the way to fix the cities is to actually fix them, rather than try to influence what people say about them.
      Pittsburgh suffered from the collapse of the steel industry. It’s population is much smaller than it used to be. But today it’s a great city. What did Pittsburgh do that Detroit has not done?

    • 0 avatar
      william442

      There was an article in the on-line Vindicator a couple of weeks ago that stated that the efforts to save the buildings in “downtown” Warren had failed. I have forgotten the actual street name. The story was that it was the original Packard  plant. I could be confused.

    • 0 avatar
      william442

      Geo: Three Packard Delphi buildings are being razed as we speak, including the original at Griswald and Paige Sts. Sad.

    • 0 avatar
      Matzel

      This (Detroit’s Beautiful, Horrible Decline) is likely what the reference was to, illustrating that perception may be skewed due to one sided reports about the decay of Detroit and it’s historical buildings and landmarks.
      I am from Canada and have not been in Detroit in almost two decades. I really have no idea how bad it is but it is good to see that at least some seem to be doing quite well in the affluent subdivisions of Hockey Town.
       

  • avatar

    “The controls for the audio and navigation system, though, are clunky. The touch-screen reacts very slowly and you have to be fairly precise where you put your finger or you’ll miss what you’re trying to activate.”
    They haven’t changed the technology since I used the original XF and it certainly didn’t get any better in the XJ supercharged.    http://www99.epinions.com/review/2010_Jaguar_XJ_epi/content_512392400516

    The first thing my aunt complained about when she bought an XF was that there was no button for the gas tank???

  • avatar
    YellowDuck

    No interior photos??

  • avatar
    Lumbergh21

    With 470 horsepower and an already sophisticated suspension, steering and rear end, do you really need “sport” settings? Drivers who take their XF to the track will appreciate them

    Really?  Who would take a car like this to the track?  I understand that soem people do some crazy things, but that would be like taking a Cadillac CTS-v to the track.  I just don’t see that ever happening.

    • 0 avatar

      On a mountain road I’d likely take advantage of these settings.

    • 0 avatar
      Detroit-Iron

      +1
       
      The pics of old Detroit are awesome, and it never ceases to surprise how much of the domestic auto industry (including writers such as Ronnie) are still there, but most of Michigan is flat as a pancake and laid out like a giant version of Manhattan (go due north, turn left).  I think that may explain some of the deficiencies in the domestic handling department, especially as compared to cars from the UK.  I live somewhat proximal to Karesh Sr.’s unfortunate meeting of RX-8 and tree, and so I can easily envision me some “sport settings” shenanigans, if someone else is paying for the petrol.

  • avatar
    hubcap

    I really like this car but it is a Jaguar. As such it’s a waiting game. Will the reliability/dependability be up to par. Maybe its just me but I find it funny that from a looks/performance perspective Jag goes head to head with the other luxo/performance brands. If they could get their reliability within shouting range of Lexus they’d make the Germans really nervous.

    As for the start sequence I can see it being amusing once or twice but honestly, to me, it’s a failure waiting to happen. Hopefully the gear selector’s “fail safe” position is the up position.
     
     

  • avatar
    twotone

    Nice review! I drove both the XF and new XJL a month ago and found the XF a bit cramped. I’d chose a 5-Series or E-class instead. The XJL, however, would be my pick. Either Jag will be a great <$20k used car bargain in a couple of years. Two or three years should be sufficient for the original owner to sort out all the “issues.”

  • avatar
    Charles T

    One point of correction, the XF is not made of mostly aluminum. Only the XJ and XK are based on aluminum platforms; the XF is still based on the steel Lincoln LS/Jaguar S-Type chassis.

  • avatar

    I love the look of the new Jaguars, inside and out. Just sad to see the poor reliability data being generated on Michael’s site. I am glad I purchased something else. This is too expensive a vehicle to be unreliable. I am hoping Jaguar gets it sorted out before it is too late.

  • avatar
    JJ

    Judging by some camouflaged ones roaming around the XF looks like it will receive an XJ-like schnoz soon, which I think will be an improvement.

    Seems to be a great car. It’s just that I like the new 5-series a lot (looks great in person IMO, although the front is a bit boring) otherwise this would be first choice. I’d definitely have one over a Merc E-Class or Audi A6. The new E-Class’ reliabilty should be a lot better than the last two iterations according to Mercedes but should we really trust their word for it?

  • avatar

    Based on the numbers I have seen, the Mercedes leads the pack in reliability, among the Germans and Indians. They list in this order: Mercedes E Class, BMW 5 series, Audi A6, then Jaguar brings up the rear lagging badly. MB and BMW are actually pretty close in the mid size sedan category, depending on year. Audi is pretty bad. All are behind the Japanese.

    I should know, I spent a lot of time researching before making a decision and reliability was an important concern. 

  • avatar
    seanx37

    I actually visited a few of those graves one day. Of course, I live 10 minutes away. So it isn’t like it was a long drive.
    I think the only problems with the Jag are that it looks like everything else. It looks a lot like a Maxima in person. And that it is a Jag. You know that it will break. Often. And will have titanic depreciation.
     

  • avatar
    obbop

    Would a turbocharged review possess less parasitic drag?

  • avatar
    BMWfan

    Not to worry Ronnie, that was a very good review. I too, would have liked to see aome interior shots. The talk of all that leather had me drooling!

  • avatar
    derm81

    Being a major Detroit history buff, I am happy to see pictures of Detroit’s exclusive Palmer Woods neighborhood in this review. A number of auto barons and execs lived here over the years. A number of amazing architects such as William Kessler, Albert Kahn, Richard Marr and Minoru Yamasaki have designed homes in this beautifil neighborhood. Several GM and Chrysler leaders have lived here over the years.

    The 4th picture down features the Alfred Fisher mansion of Fisher Body fame. His brother William built a massive mansion on the adjoining property next door but it burned in the 90s. The houses shared a massive lot and even had a mini golf course out back. Down the street featured the Massive Meyer Prentis mansion….he was GM’s CFO at one time during the Sloan years.

    My favorite district is Indian Village, but then agin, I am an East Sider so that’s my bias. When outsiders here the word Detroit, they usually cringe and/or piss on the city. What they don’t know is how much wealth the city once had. I am nit talking token streets with 7 mansions. I am talking hundreds of massive mansions spread throughout the area where the scions of industry once-lived. Oh well, it is nice to at least dream what Detroit once was.

    • 0 avatar

      One of these days I’m going to get over to Temple Beth El’s library, which includes the Meyer Prentis archives.
      I recently found out about Detroit’s second replica of Independence Hall (besides the Henry Ford Museum). It was originally built as the headquarters for Liberty Motors and still sits just north of Chrysler’s Jefferson North plant off of Conner, in front of the former Liberty plant, now a shuttered Budd Thyssen facility.

  • avatar
    fincar1

    I enjoyed the review very much. Were I ever in the market in that price range I’d certainly be looking at this car. One very minor quibble: “All the switchwork has a silky feel to the controls while also imparting a sense of stolidity.” I’m sure you meant “solidity”.

    • 0 avatar

      No, I really meant stolidity, but upon checking the definition, it doesn’t mean what I thought it meant. My mistake.
       
      Known errata:
      body is not all aluminum
      some question about the steering, is it variable assist or variable ratio
      stolidity was improperly used.
      Sorry folks, I’ll try to be more accurate in the future.
       
       

  • avatar
    James2

    The only quality control issue that I noticed was in the windshield lamination. I don’t know if it’s because the glass is heated or if they did a poor job in laminating the safety glass, but at night there was a noticeable interference pattern in the glass. It didn’t affect visibility but there was a star effect around oncoming headlights.

    I’ve seen quite a few newer-model cars with a ‘checkerboard’ effect on the glass, especially the rear window, backlight, whatever you call it. Are the glassmakers asleep at the wheel or is there something else going on?

  • avatar
    mtymsi

    I really like the XF’s styling, to me it has a subtle uniqueness that is just drop dead gorgeous especially in person.  Sorry to hear the repair rate is twice the average, that’s completely unacceptable for any car today especially one in the XF’s price range. Wonder what problems are causing the high repair rate. They can put a regular shifter back in and do away with the opening vents as I too view the rotary shifter and vents as problems waiting to happen.
     
    It would not surprise me if the unreliability is the reason the sales are so dismal. There is a Jaguar dealer a mile from my house and I have only seen one XF on the road in my area since its introduction. I will consider leasing a CPO XF in several years if the payments are favorable. We don’t drive very much and with the dealer so close I’m willing to take a chance on the reliability with a CPO warranty. We had two CPO S Types but when the last lease expired Jaguar was not leasing CPO cars. Now they are again.
     
    I know styling is completely subjective but I think the XF is the best looking sedan on the market and one of the prettiest designs period in many years. Pictures do not do this car justice IMO.

  • avatar
    Educator(of teachers)Dan

    Jaguar has now become what my fertile imagination believes Packard would have been if the company had survived till the present day. 

  • avatar
    pacificpom2

    Brake Dust. Seems to me a Euro thing. The last time I changed the pads on my ML I was offered euro spec pads or american spec pads, (in OZ). I asked what the difference was and the guy behind the counter said the US spec generated less dust. Delving further into it, it seems that europeans equate dust to better braking performancce, the same as a loud vacuum cleaner works better than a quite one (look up the early model and developement of the Electrolux and Hoover vacuum cleaners).  Perception plays a big part in all things. Nice review of a pommie car built for american tastes.
     

  • avatar
    Leaper_NYC

    “Lumbergh21
    February 25th, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    With 470 horsepower and an already sophisticated suspension, steering and rear end, do you really need “sport” settings? Drivers who take their XF to the track will appreciate them

    Really?  Who would take a car like this to the track?  I understand that soem people do some crazy things, but that would be like taking a Cadillac CTS-v to the track.  I just don’t see that ever happening.”

    Look, you may find this odd, but people take XFRs and CTS-V’s (and M5s and so on) to the track all the time. Just hunt around on YouTube. The whole point of those cars is to own a track car that can double as a daily driver. Now, why some people pay for such cars, suffer through their compromised road manners, and never end up taking them to a track, that I don’t understand.

    As for the XF Super, this is not a track car per se, though it can certainly hold its own on a racetrack. (There are numerous reports and YouTube videos of owners being waved past by Corvettes, 911s, GT-Rs and the like, yes really)

    The real point of the XF Super is to beat the 550i/E550 on performance and value, while being more elegant and luxurious than either. That, folks, is what makes it a TRUE Jaguar. (cue documentary footage of the legendary E-type)


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