By on January 27, 2011

Chevy dusts off its “may the best car win” theme with a series of videos “daring” consumers to compare the Cruze… with its outgoing competition. The absurdity of the alleged
“comparison” is probably best highlighted in this video, in which the 2011 Cruze takes on a 2010 Elantra… even though an all-new 2011 Elantra is already at dealerships. With a much-improved 2012 Focus coming soon as well, a similarly rigged bashing of the outgoing Focus is made only slightly less unfair by the fact that the Focus isn’t available yet. Ditto the Honda Civic smackaround. And the Corolla. It’s almost as if Chevy knows that the Cruze is about to face some of the toughest competition in the industry… with a design that has been produced since 2008. Too bad the bowtie brand doesn’t seem willing to face the challenge.

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55 Comments on “Pick On Someone From Your Own Model Year!...”


  • avatar
    wsn

    I would pick a 2006 Civic (assuming brand new) over a 2011 Cruze.

    • 0 avatar
      hyundaivirgin

      The disingenuity… “Dare to compare”. Who doesn’t dare to compare? Depressing that GM is still stuck in its practices of only comparing to the past.

      I agree with others that it’s fair for them to compare to current Ford and Honda. But they shouldn’t be comparing to previous model Hyundai.

  • avatar

    @wsn – Have you driven the Cruze? If so, I find it unlikely you would prefer an 06 Civic. The Cruze is much nicer, drives better, and is overall a much better car. That being said, Chevy is out of their mind with all these videos. Ed is right about them soon facing a lot of tough competition. The Cruze better have a great mid-cycle refresh in a couple years or it doesn’t have a chance.

    • 0 avatar
      tanooki2003

      You are completely missing wsn’s point trevor

    • 0 avatar
      wsn

      trentor, I have no doubt that the Cruze is a fine car during the test drive or the 90 days that JD Power cares about. However, the Civic has thirty years of good (if not perfect) history behind it, while GM has never produced a good compact car.

      I am not going to be the lab mouse that tries out a GM hype. If the Cruze is really good, I may consider it in 2021 when it has 10 years of reliable history under its belt.

    • 0 avatar
      bumpy ii

      The Cruze sold in the United States IS the mid-cycle refresh.

    • 0 avatar
      65corvair

      WSN,  GM did build a good compact car.  The Corvair!!!  Ha ha ha.  See the curbside classic review.  That said, the Corvair was the last GM car I purchased.  I’ve had Fords, Dodges and Toyotas since, but not another GM.  One should wait until the Focus, Civic and Corolla comes out and than buy the best compact.

      65 Chevy Corvair convertible
      11 Fiesta

    • 0 avatar
      Steven02

      Just don’t count those years of bad Honda Civic transmissions.  That would tarnish the perfect history.

  • avatar
    Sinistermisterman

    I’m in the market for a compact right now and have test driven both a Cruze and the 2011 Elantra, I can say that whilst the Cruze is a good car in its own right, the 2011 Elantra seems to have a better build quality and overall the design feels more ‘together’. If it came down to price alone, I’d probably go for the Cruze, but a for a tiny bit more the Elantra feels a hell of a lot better.
    Chevy don’t do themselves any favors doing this kind of comparison.

  • avatar
    HoldenSSVSE

    Corolla?  Really?  This even after TTAC reviewed the Cruze and said it crushed (possibly not the EXACT word, but darn close) the Corolla.  And what of the 2011 Corolla?  The one with more hard plastic than the 2010 model?  The one with a 4-speed automatic?  The one that just dropped the upscale 2.4 4-cylinder?  The one with worse MPG than the Cruze?  Are we talking about THAT Corolla.  The refresh that just screams, “hey, we’re Toyota, and we don’t even care anymore.”

    You had me at Elantra, game set match and completely agree.

    So does Ford have no right to advertise they’re better than Camry because the Camry is so old?

    Does Hyundai have no right to mention the Malibu as its due for a refresh?

    So Chevy shouldn’t even mention Civic (which by all indications the refresh is a dud) and shouldn’t mention Focus – because – well – WHINE, the 2011 version of these cars are old.  IT’S NOT FAIR I tell you, it isn’t FAIR!

    So is it unfair that Toyota is running TV ads in at least my market advertising 2010 Corollas?

    In your article about GM withdrawing their request for retooling loans to the tune of $14.4 billion, posted today, you JUST blast someone who replied to the story for being a GM fanboi and complaining about the anti-GM slant that this site has.  You vigorously defend yourself on the single data point that you’re giving praise in this one story and there is no anti-GM slant.

    If you’re looking for an example of a story that makes readers cringe and go, “sheeze, just write DEATH TO GM and get it over with,” this is a great example.

    I get the Elantra and you are 100% spot on - the rest of it – is just marketing 101.

    Pot meet kettle, kettle meet pot.

    • 0 avatar
      Philosophil

      I find the Camry advertisements hilarious. Talk about resting on your laurels?
       
      I’m no fan of GM, but choosing to focus on GM in this while ignoring all the others who do similar kinds of things does seem a little one-sided.

    • 0 avatar
      geeber

      The problem isn’t that the Civic and Focus are old…the current versions have not yet been officially replaced, so comparing the Cruze to them is entirely fair. If someone is shopping for a Cruze today, he or she will be comparing it to the CURRENT Civic or Focus, not the new ones. It’s not GM’s responsbility to tell customers as to when its competitors will be updating their vehicles.

      Criticizing GM for this is unfair.

      If a new Camry has debuted, and Ford is still using the old one for comparison purposes, then it’s fair to criticize Ford for this. If the current Camry is the one on the market, its age is irrelevant. That is what Toyota is currently selling, and that is what Ford (and everyone else) should be using for comparison purposes.

      And given that no one has actually tested a 2012 Civic yet, and Honda didn’t even release exact mechanical specifications with the debut of the two concepts at Detroit show, I’m a little baffled as to how it can be declared a dud. The only thing we know is that the styling is evolutionary, and, based on what I saw, will be completely competitive with anything from Hyundai, Ford and Chevrolet when it debuts. We aren’t talking about the Corolla here…

    • 0 avatar
      PeriSoft

      +1, Holden.
       
      What the hell were they supposed to do – compare their product with another one that isn’t out yet? They’re comparing the things you can go out and buy. Or were they supposed to not market their car vs. the competition, waiting politely until the competition released new cars?
       
      What does the model year differential have to be in order for it to be “unfair” to compare? Will it suddenly be unfair for Toyota et. al to compare to the “old generation” Cruze the instant they come out?
       
      Given TTAC’s general GM position, I’m gonna guess that the response will be the opposite. GM brings out a new generation ahead of others, and it’s unfair for GM to compare the cars.
      The other bring out a new generation ahead of GM, and GM is pathetic and can’t keep up.
       
      I’m a Saab owner, as was my father before me – and as such have no love lost for GM – but jeez…

    • 0 avatar

      I’m not questioning why GM made these ads… all’s  fair in love, war and marketing. Nor am I saying that the Cruze does or does not stack up against the competition… this is not a comparison test. I am simply saying that the competition is already tougher than the videos make it appear, and it’s getting tougher still.
      We both agree that there’s no excuse for the Elantra comparison… and I make a clear distinction between the Elantra video and the others, which are updating within the next six months or so. So what, I should have written “GM is brilliant for reinforcing outdated perceptions about the competition”? Is that what it takes to be “unbiased”?
      Here’s the reality: Given how much better the Cruze is than any other compact GM has ever made, launching it just before the competition steps its game up significantly makes GM’s fight from behind for compact car consideration much harder. Given that the Cruze has been produced since 2008, an earlier launch would have made videos like this totally legitimate, and could have given Chevy the best compact on the market for several years. Instead Chevy dithered, and now its best-ever compact has to face some tough competition… and these videos prove that, on some level, Chevy marketing knows Cruze faces years of uphill sledding.
      That is what the kids call “real talk”… and it has nothing to do with “wanting to see GM die.” Feel free to disagree with my analysis, but leave the bias thing alone… especially if your best explanation for this “bias” is that deep down I just want to spend all day writing “DEATH TO GM” over and over again. Because believe me, if that’s what I really wanted to do i would just do it. It sounds a hell of a lot easier than trying to make good on my actual motivations for writing about the auto industry.

    • 0 avatar
      psarhjinian

      What does the model year differential have to be in order for it to be “unfair” to compare?

      It’s not unfair as much as it’s lame.

      GM (or anyone) can do what it likes in it’s own advertisements, but it’s also fair to point out that the ads themselves are softballs.

    • 0 avatar
      HoldenSSVSE

      So what, I should have written “GM is brilliant for reinforcing outdated perceptions about the competition”?

      So its OK for other makers to keep up outdated perceptions but not others.

      I’ll make my point clearer.  This isn’t a story.  This isn’t news worthy.  This is no smoke associated here, let alone a fire.

      Company hires ad agency to throw softballs at drooling consumers who don’t know better – film at eleven

      The fact that you singled out GM for this practice creates the air of bias.  The fact that you singled out GM for this within just a couple of hours of giving praise, only makes it look like bias more (and the loan praise becomes faint).

      I’ll shoot you an e-mail directly as I have an idea that is better taken offline.

    • 0 avatar

      I’ll make my point clearer.  This isn’t a story.  This isn’t news worthy.  This is no smoke associated here, let alone a fire.
      Except that you already admitted  “You had me at Elantra, game set match and completely agree.” So we agree that there’s at least half a story here.
      The fact that you singled out GM for this practice creates the air of bias.  The fact that you singled out GM for this within just a couple of hours of giving praise, only makes it look like bias more (and the loan praise becomes faint).
      This is the argument that proves TTAC’s alleged bias? Really?
      I’ll shoot you an e-mail directly as I have an idea that is better taken offline.
      Thanks for that. As a matter of fact, all discussion of TTAC’s editorial policies are supposed to take place outside of the comments section. I’m bending our own rules to engage these accusations in the comments thread because I want it to be clear that we have nothing to hide on the bias front… and short of silencing all criticism of GM I still don’t know what the bias hounds are after.
      With that, I ask once again that all further discussion of the “b word” be moved to the contact form.
       

  • avatar
    Carlson Fan

    How embarrassing that GM even feels the need to compare their car to a Hyundai. Forget about the difference in years. Seriously, people cross shop Chevy and Hyundai???? Really???? I l aways thought people who shop Hyundai cross shop a bus card!…..LOL  

    • 0 avatar
      dwford

      I sell Hyundais and people cross shop the Equinox with the Santa Fe and Tucson. Never have people coming in comparing the Cruze or Malibu to the Elantra or Sonata.

      @Carlson Fan: Times have changed, Hyundai is now a respected brand in the consumer’s mind and is regularly cross shopped with Toyota, Honda, Nissan, etc. We sell to plenty of people with 6 figure incomes trading in their expensive to maintain German cars. Rich people don’t like to waste money any more than anyone else!

      As for the Cruze, it’s weakest link has to be that 1.4L turbo motor – expensive to build, down on power, loud, and not the most fuel efficient. Since the Sonic gets this motor also, I would expect the Cruze to get an upgrade in the engine compartment soon.

    • 0 avatar
      John R

      @Carlson Fan: Wow…just wow…

    • 0 avatar
      HoldenSSVSE

      So the Toyota ads comparing Camry to Hyundai and Ford are embarassing too?

    • 0 avatar
      wsn

      Carlson Fan, I did read a report on buyer family income of the major car makers. To summarize, the richest drive Honda and then Toyota. The poorest drive Chrysler. Nissan, GM and Ford are somewhere in between. No data on Hyundai though. The data includes their luxury branches, but exclusively luxury brands were not counted, as that’s irrelevant to this particular comparison.

      I guess the US of A will finally go green (i.e. bus) when Chrysler goes out of business.

    • 0 avatar
      threeer

      Carlson Fan, I sincerly hope that your response was tongue in cheek.  Do people cross shop Chevy with Hyundai?  I’d say many more walk straight past the Chevy dealer and specifically go to Hyundai.  While the majority of comparisons are fair, the comparo of the Cruze (2011) to the outgoing Elantra (when the new one is now readily available) is a little under the table. 

      And for what it’s worth..we’re looking at a new car down the road, and the Elantra is very, very high on the list…can I afford “more” car (ie one with a “name”)?  Sure…but I like the look of the new Elantra, the features it comes with standard and was impressed with the drive.  So yeah…people seriously DO cross shop Hyundai (and KIA) now with other manufacturers…

    • 0 avatar

      +1 Theeer. It’s sad there are those out there who are completely blind to the reality of how GM is perceived by the public at large.

      While this is an admittedly narrow market study, it thrills me to no end that so far I’ve seen more 2011 Elantras (3) around Albuquerque than I have privately-owned Cruzes (a big fat ZERO.) Two of the Elantras I know were owner-driven; I wasn’t close enough to see if the third had a rental barcode on it or not.

    • 0 avatar
      Sigivald

      Yeah, seriously.
       
      Even before the bailout fiasco, I would have preferred a new Hyundai to a new Chevy, pretty much across the board, in terms of quality and value.

      1988 left a voicemail, and it wants its opinions of Korean cars back.

  • avatar
    Bridge2farr

    How dare they compare the Cruze (Chevy-not favored here) against the wonderful competition? The magnificent Hyundai. And the all new Corolla which features a recall as standard equipment.

    • 0 avatar
      psarhjinian

      The Cruze has actually been reviewed well at TTAC; the point is that it’s being compared against vehicles whose replacements have already been announced and/or are very, very long in the tooth.
       
      That said, comparisons against the Corolla and Civic are fair game: Honda and Toyota haven’t given a specific timetable for their replacements.  A comparison with other two (the Focus and Elantra) would come off as petty, rather like the comparison I just read today that pitted the current Apple iPad (which has been around for a year and half) against a competitor that hasn’t been released yet.

  • avatar
    fredtal

    I remember there was car commercial comparing a pickup truck to a Lotus Esprit.  Since then I put no stake in any automotive marketing.  On the other hand this is the second time I’ve seen comparisons to Hyundai, so must be selling enough to worry others.

  • avatar
    John R

    A few days ago I was watching a video review of the 2012 GT-R on youtube and a GM ad popped up and was asking me to compare the GT-R to the…Camaro.
     
    Sometimes I wonder if GM’s marketing arm even reads any sort of automotive news or if they really are trying to be THIS dishonest.

  • avatar
    tallnikita

    That video was a turture.  I saw Cruze on the road and it caught my attention, but now I really hate it.

  • avatar
    Ion

    didn’t Hyundai do this with the Elantra and the Focus

  • avatar
    aircooledTOM

    This is reminiscent of Ford’s Mike Rowe “documentary” (most of which I find VERY convincing) where the new EcoBoost eats a 5.3 V8 GM in an uphill towing drag-race.  I guess you could argue that the 5.3 is a “premium” engine but I don’t think most consumers do…  A fairer comparison would have involved GM’s 6.2L offering…  “max-trailering package”. 

    Also the gearing on the GM truck was something in the neighborhood of 3.23.  One would be surprised if the Ford DIDN’T win…..

    • 0 avatar
      PeriSoft

      While I don’t think this is as bad as your example – on the subject, I found his other ‘documentary’ about the F150′s “toughness” equally compelling.
       
      One segment consisted of what was essentially a long road of offset speed bumps; the left wheel would be in a trough while the right would be on a hump. So they were running various pickups over this thing.
       
      The thing they kept harping on was how much the other trucks’ beds flexed vs. the cabs – the angle of the bed vs. the angle of the cab. There were suitably dramatic slowmo videos of the other trucks wobbling around in an alarming fashion, and of the F150 thudding down the bump strip like it didn’t know it was there – or, if it knew it was there, as if it was saying, “Bump Strip, I’m going to make you my b*tch! That’s right!”
       
      There are some problems with this.
       
      1) We don’t know what the resonant frequencies of the chasses in question were. You can have a really wobbly thing, but if you shake it at the right speed, it’ll act steady. But it’ll only be steady at that one frequency; even a little bit away from that, and all hell can break loose. You can ask some bridge builders about that. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the bumps were probably not at, say, the worst possible frequency for the F150.
       
      2) We don’t know whether having the bed be extremely stiff vs. the cab is actually a good thing. It looks alarming when you show it with a long lens in slowmo, but there are many situations (bridges; skyscrapers; airplane wings) where you’d much rather have a springy response than a stiff one. Show me two jumbo jets bouncing in turbulence, one with flexing wings and one with stiff ones, and I’ll take the flexible one.
       
      3) Mike Rowe is annoying.
       
      4) Stock “energetic rock guitar” music is even more annoying, particularly when you’re at a trade show and working and the TV is next to you all the time playing and playing and Hi, I’m Mike Rowe and GUITAR RIFF and Hi, I’m Mike Rowe and GUITAR RIFF and Hi, I’m Mike Rowe and GUITAR RIFF and Hi, I’m Mike Rowe and GUITAR RIFF and Hi, I’m Mike Rowe and GUITAR RIFF and Hi, I’m Mike Rowe and GUITAR RIFF and Hi, I’m Mike Rowe and GUITAR RIFF and Hi, I’m Mike Rowe and GUITAR RIFF and Hi, I’m Mike Rowe and GUITA
       
      All of that said, I’m not trashing on the F150 (any more than Ed, according to his post, is trashing on the Cruze). They’re pretty cool vehicles – and the interiors on the higher line versions are nicer than pickups’ have a right to be.
       
      Of course, I don’t quite know if I’d want four oil-pipe-wrenchin’, mine-shaft-diggin’, high-steel-walkin’, Carhartt-wearin’ CLEARLY TOUGH AND OBVIOUSLY BLUE-COLLAR MEN invading my luxotruck at exactly the same time. Particularly if two tons of pea gravel was about to be dumped into the bed from 18 feet up.

    • 0 avatar
      DubTee1480

      @ PeriSoft
      “Of course, I don’t quite know if I’d want four oil-pipe-wrenchin’, mine-shaft-diggin’, high-steel-walkin’, Carhartt-wearin’ CLEARLY TOUGH AND OBVIOUSLY BLUE-COLLAR MEN invading my luxotruck at exactly the same time. Particularly if two tons of pea gravel was about to be dumped into the bed from 18 feet up.”
      LOL!

    • 0 avatar
      PeriSoft

      @DubTee1480

      Seriously! You must have seen those commercials, with the guys milling around oil rigs or construction sites, with, err, big tools in their pockets, and covered in sweat and dirt…

      The overlay graphics they use are brilliant, and the spots are good at their job – but let me tell you, after you see one of them 9000 times on a 50′ wide screen at an auto show, those workmen start to look a lot less Lynyrd Skynyrd and a lot more Village People.

      I’m jus’ sayin’.

    • 0 avatar
      KalapanaBlack

      Just got the stink-eye from somebody else at work while cackling at this. Thanks for the early morning laugh!!

    • 0 avatar
      Zackman

      PeriSoft: Thank you for your interesting observations on this. Also, many thanks for also admitting how annoying/old/boring Mike Rowe has become. I can no longer stand the guy, but that’s not his fault, I’m just sick of seeing him. Especial thanks for your observations on frequencies of structures. The guys who built the first Tacoma Narrows bridge wishes they had that one back! I’m sure an M1 Abrams tank has a frequency as well, and I’m not talking about the sound a projectile makes on its hull when it tries to take one out, either!

    • 0 avatar
      JuniorMint


      “Seriously! You must have seen those commercials, with the guys milling around oil rigs or construction sites, with, err, big tools in their pockets, and covered in sweat and dirt…

      The overlay graphics they use are brilliant, and the spots are good at their job – but let me tell you, after you see one of them 9000 times on a 50′ wide screen at an auto show, those workmen start to look a lot less Lynyrd Skynyrd and a lot more Village People.”

      I’ve seen this movie, actually…I’d link you to it, but you need to buy a subscription to view it.  Also prove you’re 18 and abiding by all applicable laws coverning the viewing of such material.  :3

  • avatar
    jpcavanaugh

    In other news, the Cruse is also better than a 1981 Escort or a 1972 Plymouth Cricket.

    Seriously, this is classic GM.  They are doing the US launch of what is essentially a 3 year old car in a hotly competitive segment.  At least they got the car out before MOST of the competition.  I guess if they are going to do ads like these, best to do them now.  But why not just promote the car honestly.  You know, tell us about its features, its value, its quality, and all of the other things buyers want to know.  Instead, they do a comparison to some stale competition and invite informed people to raise eyebrows at the comparison that is honest only in a very technical sense.  Stupid.

    Or maybe, this campaign was planned to run when the 2010 Hyndai was still current, but things didn’t get done on time.

    • 0 avatar
      Ian Anderson

      Or maybe, this campaign was planned to run when the 2010 Hyndai was still current, but things didn’t get done on time.

      Like bringing the Cruze to the US.

  • avatar
    william442

    Many years ago I decided not to buy a sailboat because the factory representative criticized the boat I then owned.
    Forty years later Albin Ballads are still sailing. I seem to have forgotten the brand name of the boat I was considering.

  • avatar
    OldandSlow

    Both of them have their fair share of Korean DNA. So, I couldn’t care less about either car at the moment.

    With that said and now that this video clip has gone viral, you have to ask who approved this?

  • avatar
    GarbageMotorsCo.

    The Snuze is just another Government Motors model that comes standard with arrogance, Elitism and ignorance.

    At least they compared it against a car in it’s own class unlike the idiotic ads with the neighbor who has a Lexus GS430 parked in his driveway oogling over the neighbors rental car Malibu.

    Or the one comparing a Chevy Equinox and a lexus RX.

    Then you mix in the “Don’t get stuck in an import” ads for the nox and Traverse or the “F-150 doesn’t cut it” ads for the Silverado and many, many more.

    Even after Ch11 and grabbing 68 billion in taxpayer money, “humble” is still a word not found in the Government Motors dictionary.

    It is that arrogance that makes me wishful that Toyota and the rest of the competition come back with a vengence and knock these jackholes a few notches off their pedestal.

  • avatar
    oboylepr

    Where did all these “You’re not being fair to GM” and “Why are you picking on poor GM” Whingers come from? The world’s number 1 weblog for GM fanboys, autoblog.com also called out GM on this comparo. The bottom line is that comparing a 2011 model to an out of production 2010 model when it’s replacement is available just makes GM look like the bunch of stupid twits that they are. Buickman is dead right when he says that they do not have a clue how to market or sell a car. If GM have such little faith in the Cruze that they ‘dare to compare’ it against a competitor’s outgoing model then why should car buyers place any faith in it. It’s no wonder Cruze sales are not exactly stratospheric. The Cruze may be GM’s best ever compact car but it’s nothing special. There are so many other cars out there that are just better. As wsn rightly said, “If the Cruze is really good, I may consider it in 2021 when it has 10 years of reliable history under its belt.” And right now anyone CAN buy a number of Cruze competors with 10+ years of high reliability under it’s belt. The Hyundai Elantra is only one of them.

    • 0 avatar
      view2share

      When they make a great handling, trim sized, RWD car, with windows, and normal beltline, proper sized wheels (not wagon wheels), hydraulic power steering, brake pedals which are not place what appears to be 3″ higher than the gas pedal, an A pillar which is not super-sized, without weird looking over-styled headlamps, with a stick shift for $25K, or less, wake me up!

  • avatar
    Bridge2farr

    “It is that arrogance that makes me wishful that Toyota and the rest of the competition come back with a vengence and knock these jackholes a few notches off their pedestal.”
    Tell us how you really feel. Toyota is coming back-with more recalls!

    • 0 avatar
      view2share

      Toyota is your father’s Oldsmobile.  While the Olds ad was funny in that my Dad’s Olds was a cool car, while their modern FWD all sucked, you get the point — Toyota is todays GM, which should scare the heck out of the management and shareholders of Toy company.  Boring cars, with brakes and steering as sharp as a boat made by GM.

  • avatar
    Ian Anderson

    If GM has to compare the Cruze to a 2010 Elantra, what’s that say about the Cruze and their marketing skills? (Or lack there of I should say).

  • avatar
    jaje

    Don’t forget that Ford does these too.  For instance, an older Ford campaign with the autox course and taking an AWD Fusion and comparing it against FWD competition to show off how much better it handled (well duh – most customers noticed that Ford brought their own gun and took its competitors knives to that fight).  Now it is Mike Rowe comparisons where they go to someone who owns an older car from a competitor and shows them how great a brand new Fusion is.  That’s nice…can I have the Fusion for a straight up trade?  Oh…I have to pay for it when this car is paid for and fine.  Hmm Can I also look at the newest version of this car and compare it to that Fusion?  Also, while you are here my septic system needs a good emptying and cleaning.
     
    For GM to really go back to their practices is to buy up all 2010 Elantras and put them in the dealerships side by side (I bet those sales would be a good profit to Hyundai like they were to Honda and Toyota).  Now, that was a smart idea…bring in competition where the normal GM lifetime customer who would never set foot in a Honda or Toyota dealer who now can look over those cars side by side.

  • avatar
    Steven02

    This looks like it was shot back in the fall, possibly before the Elantra was out.  Makes no sense why it was released today, but I am guessing that is why the 2010 model was used as a comparison.

  • avatar
    nevets248

    Tjhe ghost of Susan Docherty lives on….

  • avatar
    Bimmer

     
    I guess this video is fo GM fanboys only. Instead of video, I get: ‘This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make sure you accept the sender’s friend request.’

  • avatar
    view2share

    Well GM Opel did make the Opel Manta Rally.  One fine compact car of the early 70′s.
    And a Nova or NovaII had some good years.  Yep, the most current decade are lacking.


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