Ask The Best & Brightest: How Fast Should A Cop Car Be?

Jack Baruth
by Jack Baruth

So there I was, minding my own business, driving down the road, enjoying the new Isobel Campbell record and relaxing in the right lane, when I saw two Crown Vics from the local sheriff’s department running up hard behind me, lights, sirens, the whole deal. I moved halfway onto the shoulder to let them by, and then, motivated by nothing more than a love of mayhem, decided to follow them for a while.

The two sheriffs were pushing up to as much as ninety miles per hour in-between clumps of stopped traffic. I loafed along behind them at a distance that allowed those drivers to get started again before I went by. I never went as fast as the cops did, but I never went as slow as they did, either. Over the course of about eight miles, I watched them repeatedly come to screeching brake-and-swerve stops before picking their way through the cars, almost always in a manner that indicated they weren’t looking any further ahead than a few car lengths. Twice the second cop nearly, er, buttslammed the first, usually while applying some pretty heavy-duty steering input in concert with full ABS.

By the time the twin Vics screamed off onto a side road, tossing dirt and rocks in their wake, I was of the opinion that these “trained” drivers would have been out of their depths in NASA’s HPDE 1 group. They repeatedly endangered their own lives and the lives of others… and when I say that, you know some serious idiocy is going down, right? They were unable to separate their turn-and-stop motions. They ran too closely, which adversely affected their ability to make intelligent choices in traffic and dramatically increased the likelihood that they would strike either an innocent bystander or each other.

Perhaps the most damning statement I can make about their ability was that I had no trouble keeping up with them, and I never found myself coming close to other cars or experiencing the sky-high closing speeds they were creating. By running without lights and just working steadily through traffic at 70 mph or so, they would have made better time than they did by gas-and-braking their way down the road. Given a day or two at BeaveRun’s Vehicle Dynamics Facility, I could have completely straightened those two cops out… but I’m no more likely to assist the police than my personal hero, Professor Griff, would be. I’m here to fight the power, yo.

I did find myself thinking that it was a good thing these cops didn’t have any more horsepower than they did. Equipped with HEMI Chargers or Caprice PPVs, these cops would have been hitting 110 or 120 between the gaps. Somebody could have been badly injured.

We already accept, as a society, the idea that it’s better to restrict the capability of machines than to properly train their operators. (See: speed limits, gun control, the OSHA.) What if we simply extended this idea to include law enforcement? In other words, what if we slowed down the cops to protect the innocent? What say you?

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  • Italian Italian on Oct 27, 2010

    In Italy the police have a special license to drive their cars and depending on the type of license you can drive a certain type of car. Faster ones have a license called "fast driving " and the drivers have to do special courses. Also there are 2 or 3 lamborghini that patrol the highway and can be used for special cases such as emergency organ transport. The police officers who drive them have to take a further course and have a special authorization. In europe we drive faster than in the US. Speed limits are a bit higher... they usaly use Alfa 159 2.4 JTD it's a 2.4 liter turbo diesel with 200 bhp 6 speed manual transmition. it's a heavy car seeing all it has in it and its perfect for our high speed driving. Our speed limit is 130kmh (80mph) and on some highway its just been authorised to bring it up to 150 kmh (93mph) Speed that many don't respect

  • Not1ofUhasaclue Not1ofUhasaclue on Feb 22, 2011

    You all sound like a bunch of anti-cop nut jobs... Have any of you ever been in that seat? No, thats what I thought. If you have experienced life in the drivers seat of a Police car you would know that many times you can actually get through traffic faster without lights and sirens because you get far fewer retards, like as all you anti cop nuts, freaking out, stopping in front of you or driving totally erratic while they try to remember what they are supposed to do when a emergency vehicle comes up behind them. While driving with lights and sirens people tend to freak out either thinking they are getting pulled over or just being plain stupid. Maybe 2 in 10 cars will actually pull over to the right and stop as the driving test instructed them to do. The rest stop right where they are at, stop right in front of the Officer or just keep on going while singing along with the radio not paying one bit of attention to the police car or ambulance behind them. Add the fact all the auto makers have made it a goal to reduce road noise and practically sound proof their vehicles. If you're acually paying attention you'll hear the siren when the police car is right behind you. If you're like the rest of the world listening to the radio while talking on the phone and eating you probably won't notice till the emergency vehicle passes you. Sure some cops are horrible drivers but there are people everywhere in every profession that are horrible at parts of their jobs. 90% of cops are better drivers then most the popluation. Sure they get in accidents but when you are on the road 10-14hrs per day the risk of an accident are greatly increased. Remember even race car drivers crash and all they have to do is drive. Besides driving a cop has to shoot, baby sit your kids, baby sit adults that act like kids, be a professional fighter, write reports and the list goes on... Put lights and sirens on your car then try to make it though traffic to the location where your wife, kids or best friend is in a knock down drag out fight with a person that is intent on causing them harm. Add the fact that there is at least one gun involvded in this fight and if your friend / family member loses control of it they will likely be killed... You'll be driving as fast as you could to get there and I bet I'd have no problem following you in my personal car since nobody is going to freak out and stop in front of me...

    • Joeaverage Joeaverage on Feb 22, 2011

      Not1ofUhasaclue - well actually I have worked law enforcement... Have been that guy on calls rushing through traffic. And around here, most people DO get out of the way. Try a different region of the country. America is not the same coast to coast.

  • Analoggrotto Does anyone seriously listen to this?
  • Thomas Same here....but keep in mind that EVs are already much more efficient than ICE vehicles. They need to catch up in all the other areas you mentioned.
  • Analoggrotto It's great to see TTAC kicking up the best for their #1 corporate sponsor. Keep up the good work guys.
  • John66ny Title about self driving cars, linked podcast about headlight restoration. Some relationship?
  • Jeff JMII--If I did not get my Maverick my next choice was a Santa Cruz. They are different but then they are both compact pickups the only real compact pickups on the market. I am glad to hear that the Santa Cruz will have knobs and buttons on it for 2025 it would be good if they offered a hybrid as well. When I looked at both trucks it was less about brand loyalty and more about price, size, and features. I have owned 2 gm made trucks in the past and liked both but gm does not make a true compact truck and neither does Ram, Toyota, or Nissan. The Maverick was the only Ford product that I wanted. If I wanted a larger truck I would have kept either my 99 S-10 extended cab with a 2.2 I-4 5 speed or my 08 Isuzu I-370 4 x 4 with the 3.7 I-5, tow package, heated leather seats, and other niceties and it road like a luxury vehicle. I believe the demand is there for other manufacturers to make compact pickups. The proposed hybrid Toyota Stout would be a great truck. Subaru has experience making small trucks and they could make a very competitive compact truck and Subaru has a great all wheel drive system. Chevy has a great compact pickup offered in South America called the Montana which gm could make in North America and offered in the US and Canada. Ram has a great little compact truck offered in South America as well. Compact trucks are a great vehicle for those who want an open bed for hauling but what a smaller more affordable efficient practical vehicle.
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