Curbside Classic Outtake: Datsun F10 Doppleganger Discovered? Renault R 17

Paul Niedermeyer
by Paul Niedermeyer

I knew the F-10 coupe was reminding me of something else in my CC repository. And then it hit me: the Renault R 17! Unfortunately, this one’s front end wasn’t available, but here’s a nice one:

The R 15 and R17 coupes were based on the R12 sedan, and it’s hard to say exactly why Renault chose to offer two coupe variants, with different roofs. But Renault sometimes worked in mysterious ways. Here’s an R 15:

And here’s the whole family, with an enthusiastic Renault owner:

Finally, my shot of the Eugene car’s interesting dash:

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  • VanillaDude VanillaDude on Jan 12, 2010

    The Renault does it right. The Datsun does it ugly.

  • Bill mcgee Bill mcgee on Feb 11, 2012

    They're both interesting cars visually. While I knew people who owned Renaults in the 70s and always wound up hating them, the 17 I rarely saw when new but liked the style.I had a lot of experience driving a friend's F10 , bought new. At the time I was appalled that he bought it as it was universally panned in the car magazines as being cramped and ugly , unlike the 17 which while unique I wouldn't call it ugly. And it looks a lot more spacious. I recall that in the F10 I had like 2 inches of headroom and I'm only 5'5".But I agree, both have a ton of quirky personality, sorely missing on almost all cars today.

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  • Formula m How many Hyundai and Kia’s do not have the original engine block it left the factory with 10yrs prior?
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  • Jeff Tesla should not be allowed to call its system Full Self-Driving. Very dangerous and misleading.
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