By on November 24, 2009

BMW's New 5-Series

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57 Comments on “What’s Wrong With This Picture: Number Five Is Alive Edition...”


  • avatar
    PeteMoran

    Snout related kidney disease. That thing is about to explode.
     
    Why didn’t they just make it the whole width of the front end?

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    superbadd75

    I guess I’ll get used to it, and the ugliness will not bother me after I’ve seen a few on the road, but I miss the E39.

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    dswilly

    That’s  not a 5 it’s a 7.  Oh wait….. yeah it is a 5

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    salhany

    Looks a bit like a Maserati Quattroporte from that angle.

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    I think it’s an improvement.  I’m not crazy about the lines along the side, but they fixed the trunk and made the front less angry.
    I’ll reserve judgment until I see the interior…

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    Brendon from Canada

    I like it better then the current gen; obviously no E39, but an improvement.    The side profile shot actually looks pretty similar to the 3 series coupé (it’s sleeker then the sedan).

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    dswilly

    BMW’s rarely look as good in print as in real life going down the road, unlike some others (i.e. Camaro & Challenger).  I think most of the Bangle gen stuff is actually quite attractive in the real world but always looked awkward in print.

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    Gardiner Westbound

    The juxtaposition of the bumper blade and wide lower grille scoop give it sort of a Mazda smiley face, which is less than handsome to my eye. UnBangled, it’s nonetheless a substantial improvement over the previous iteration. Agree with superbadd75, it’s no E39.

  • avatar
    Ben Brown

    Nothing is wrong with it. The new design is superb.

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    Rod Panhard

    It’s now up to the B-J auction in 2029 to see if Dame Edna’s bonnet and Bangle’s boot were a success. Now that they’ve disappeared, methinks not. But then again, I’m convinced today’s SUVs are as ugly as Pacers and Gremlins.

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    twotone

    Looks OK to me, but I’m waiting to see it in the metal before judging. My 1990 535 and 1998 540 Sport were great cars. The last remaining RWD mid-size sedans available with manual transmissions.
    Twotone
     

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    Brian E

    I think it’s fantastic, especially in profile. Much better than the current model for sure.
    It will be interesting to see what the combination of the new turbo six and 8-speed transmission is like.

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    It is a move up from the last 5’er; although the snout is a little outsized, at least they didn’t do an Audi and make a fishmouth out of it! It is nice to see the Bangle draining out of their products and I hope Chris is off to China to “help” them with their car business.

  • avatar
    Porsche986

    I wanted to speculate on the actual answer to the question that Edward asked…  “What’s wrong with this picture?”
    Answer:  The front seats appear to be cream or white, while the back seats are brown.
    What do I win?  *wink*

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    Looks kind of like the new Buick in the front, especially the headlights.  I don’t consider that a good thing, but it’s kind of hard to see a lot of details in that picture.

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    Mirko Reinhardt

    Not much wrong with the pictures – great interior, meh exterior.
    Just read the press release – no manual transmissions, at least at launch.
    No manual transmissions, in a BMW?? Mandatory 8 speed slushbox?

  • avatar
    Hank

    I like the car, I think it’s more a bigger 3 than a shrunken 7.  Great interior.  As to the picture, the problem to me is that it highlights the architect’s skill more than the BMW designer’s.

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    Well, at least you can’t blame Bangle for this one.

  • avatar
    slowpoke

    I see a lot of transmuted hyundai genesis in the front… hyundai genesis

  • avatar
    toxicroach

    I got a 2010 528 loaner today.  It’s ok, I guess.  I was longing for my 3 series within 5 minutes though; relatively gutless  car, the autobox is not responsive, and I just don’t think it looks that great.

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    psarhjinian

    I know they’re trying to show off their sheetmetal-torturing skills, but the reflections off the hood are, ah, interesting.
     
    And what’s up with the driver’s seat being so far forward?

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    MBella

    I quite like it. I didn’t have a problem with the Bangle cars though.

  • avatar
    Libertyman03

    I am new to this site, officially at least, but I have been following it for a while. So, hello.
    As for the BMW currently gracing the page, I say bravo to them. Finally, BMWs are becoming beautiful again. Instead of just being weird, this car looks modern AND stylish.
    The E39 always looked awkward to me…physically too big for the styling. This is better than that, and MUCH better than the last generation, which to me looked like a 1st gen Kia Rio, at least from behind.

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    Boff

    I love it!!! My wife is thinking 5-series for herself in 3 years…hopefully they’ll still offer the stick shift, because thanks to my brainwashing she won’t drive anything else.

    The flame-surfaced 5 and 7 were very influential, if you look around. Whether that is because they are BMW’s or because they contained some good styling ideas would require a whole new blog to debate, mind you…

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    carsinamerica

    The only thing I find wrong with it is the detail on the bottom of the headlight cluster.  I wish the bezel didn’t droop outboard of the inner pair of lamps. I think it would have a sharper look if it had a straight line across the bottom. That said, what a huge improvement over the E60! It’s not the E39, but it’s how the E39 would look today.

    @Mirko Reinhardt:

    It will have 6-speed manuals at or shortly after launch, for both the V-6 and V-8 engines. BMW remain the only company to offer the V-8/standard combination in the midsize executive sedan market, I think.

    • 0 avatar
      Mirko Reinhardt

      Wow, where did I miss the news that they will be introducing a V6 version?
      A 5-series without available manual transmission would be very odd. The old base manual transmission diesel four cylinder was very peppy for a base version and had better fuel economy than the fancy new 7-speed auto version.

    • 0 avatar
      PeteMoran

      Err… V6?

    • 0 avatar
      Mirko Reinhardt

      I just downloaded the price list from BMW’s website and it contains the phrase:
      “Alle Modelle außer 550i sind serienmäßig mit einem 6-Gang Schaltgetriebe ausgestattet. Das Modell 550i ist serienmäßig mit dem 8-Gang Automatic Getriebe Steptronic ausgestattet.”
      So all is well: Only the 550i is auto only, all others come with a 6-speed manual.

    • 0 avatar
      PeteMoran

      @ Mirko
       
      Where are you seeing V6? Or am I suffering sense-of-humour-failure?
       
      http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/5series/sedan/2010/showroom/engines/index.html

    • 0 avatar
      carsinamerica

      @Mirko and @PeteMoran:

      You’re seeing me make an error. I-6, obviously.  However, I stick by the I-6/manual and V-8/manual report. From BMW’s US press release, as found at Autoblog:

      “Manual Transmissions: Continuing a BMW tradition

      BMW continues as the only manufacturer to offer manual transmissions in the 5 Series’ competitive set, underlining the sporty nature of the car, as well as BMW’s commitment to driving enthusiasts.

      The 535i and 550i Sedans will be offered with a 6-speed manual transmission in the United States, providing a level of driver involvement unique in the segment. ”

      So, I suspect that the 8-speed auto may be standard in the V-8 model, with the standard gearbox optional, which is how they did things in the E60.

  • avatar
    jkross22

    For as messed up as the E60 was on the exterior, they screwed the interior twenty ways to Tuesday.  Nice to see them integrating better interior ideas.
     
    There is one strange design idea on the interior, though.  They moved the iDrive wart to the right of the shifter, making it less accessible to the driver.  Then again, maybe that’s the point??

  • avatar
    georgejetson

    For a new BMW, it’s shockingly decent-looking. (It’s still way ugly by pre-Bangle standards, though.)

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    Nothing, it looks great. Not that you can see it in that shot, but the rear is dead sexy.  I don’t know if it’s quite as good looking as an E39 540 sport, but it’s at least appealing this time, unlike the E60.

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    Kristjan Ambroz

    I’ll be the fall guy and actually answer critically – the size is what is massively wrong with it. Another picture made the rounds today with all generations of 5 series beemers next to each other. The new one looks like it swallowed two earlier generations – bloat without end. And unless it is a massive step forward compared to the E60, interior room will be pretty much comparable (interior width is likely to have grown a tad) to any previous generation, so another step back packaging-wise.

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    another_pleb

    Because of BMW’s strict 7 year cycle on their models, I always find that they look pretty good before they are on sale and then for the next 6 months. After that they just look terrible and continue in this manner for the rest of the cycle. Only after the car has been replaced and there has been sufficient amount of time passed does the car start to look good again.
    6 Series looked awful in the 90s but a good 1980s 6 series is now considered a very pretty car.
    I can’t say for certain if the X3 and X6 will ever follow this pattern though.

  • avatar
    theflyersfan

    That isn’t a bad looking car at all.  Glad to see that the “flame surfacing” era is really coming to an end.  Now if they could just cut some of the dead-wood out of their lineup, things would be great in BMW-land!

    One thing I’m really glad to not see: the very tacky “XDrive” badge that I see on new 3- and 5-series.  I thought the “X” was their AWD model “code” but that gets slapped on all of the models now. 

    If any BMW I purchased had that slapped on the fender, I would nicely ask the dealer to remove that pointless and tacky badge as soon as possible.

  • avatar
    psarhjinian

    Glad to see that the “flame surfacing” era is really coming to an end.
     
    Have you seen the reflections on the hood?

  • avatar
    Areitu

    That front bumper looks like awful like the one on a Hyundai Genesis and the rear taillights look like they were cribbed from a G35, while the lit “eyebrows” are cribbed from Saab (though much better executed here).

  • avatar
    educatordan

    Like at least one of you I am seeing Maserati Quadraporte in the front end, just needs some portholes on the fenders, excuse me while I make a quick trip to Pepboys.
     
    But I too decry the continuing “bloat” of ALL cars, not just BMWs.  Soon a 7 series will be the size of a Cadillac Fleetwood.

  • avatar

    I like the front except for the feline eyes. I don’t like the ripples in the doors

  • avatar
    nudave

    When the kidneys became wider than tall, they ceased to be kidneys.

    Now they are buttocks.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    Definitely a MAJOR step forward from the current 5-series. In fact, from the back and sides, it looks a lot like a 3, which is a very good thing.

    The blunt nose is awkward, but it’s there because of European pedestrian-safety standards.

    Car and Driver has interior shots as well, and it looks a LOT nicer than the current 5.

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    guyincognito

    It looks like an embiggened 3er. I’m not a big fan of the hood strakes or the overly busy front end, and it already looks dated, but all things considered, it could have been a lot worse.

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    Porsche986

    OK, so I have to add another post to this one… the cars look bloated (both the 5-series and the 5-GT) but I just saw a 5-GT for the first time in person today.  It was black, which I think helps.  It does look WAY better in person than it does in photos.  It looks smaller and shorter than in the pictures.

  • avatar
    akitadog

    Well, I see the stretched 3-series, but can’t find the 5-series car. Is that’s what’s wrong with this picture, you can’t see the 5-series?
     

  • avatar
    dejal

    It’s a pity about the bottom of the doors.   Looks like they don’t fit.   They are going to catch a lot of winter salt and gravel and will look like hell in a few years.   But most “owners” don’t own their BMW anyways, they lease.   By the time the damage is done, the 1st “owners” will be onto something else.

  • avatar
    V6

    i think it looks awesome

  • avatar
    Nutsaboutcars

    I can only see the first pic (front and a bot of the sides). It is far better not only than the current 5 but ALSO, and far more importantly, than the ugly new E-class, which looks far worse than the previous E class, which is the 5’s main competitor.
     
    How can I see the rest of the pics?


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