By on October 6, 2009

The FT-86 concept, based on an RWD variant of the Subaru Impreza chassis, has been revealed at the Tokyo Auto Show. And behold, the Toyobaru coupe of internet legend appears to be in near-production trim. With a 2.0 boxer four, a six-speed manual and a forecast base price of under $30k, the FT-86 hopes to live up to the promise of its AE86 reference point. If nothing else, it signals the possible end of a long winter for Toyota’s enthusiast lineup, which effectively went into hibernation when the MR-2 Spyder was canned in 2007. But don’t get too excited. The FT-86 production model won’t go on sale in Japan until “late 2011,” so it’s anyone’s guess when it will become available in the States.

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44 Comments on “Ladies and Gentlemen, Your Toyobaru Coupe...”


  • avatar
    boombox1

    I look forward to seeing them wrapped around telephone poles by the local hoons. I’m amazed insurance companies even write policies for these types of cars.

  • avatar
    nmcheese

    Looks good – hopefully it drives well.

  • avatar
    ajla

    Looks good to me.

    As long as Toyota doesn’t start putting it in big-budget summer popcorn movies, I won’t mind the wait.

  • avatar
    Geotpf

    Nice how they used “86″ to make people think about the AE86.

  • avatar
    twotone

    Subaru — good enough for Saab, good enough for Toyota.

    Twotone

    PS: I love to see RWD Audi A4s, A6s and A8s.

  • avatar
    SherbornSean

    If this isn’t the new tC, then Toyota should just collapse Scion already.

  • avatar
    Robstar

    Looks slick. I can’t wait to see more exact pricing, gas mileage, and performance numbers.

  • avatar
    sfdennis1

    Looks good, but the base price better be WELL under $30K if they want to steal sales from the Genesis coupe, Camaro V6, Mustang, etc.

    Bring it on though, Toyota sorely needs a replacement for the Celica and/or a freshened Scion Tc in the lineup…they have the most boring, non-enthusiast oriented lineup of just about any manufacturer.

    Then get to work on a new Supra, as well as an MR-2 (with at least a little storage space this time, please)…and maybe Toyota can begin to change it’s “my parent’s car” rep among the under 30 crowd.

  • avatar
    qfrog

    Hachi Roku!

  • avatar
    slateslate

    you gotta see the head-on profile.

    this car lifed that awful pokemon grin from the mazda 3.

  • avatar
    CyCarConsulting

    Just put a G35 badge on it, and no one will look twice.

  • avatar
    SunnyvaleCA

    When will Mazda see the light and put the ‘speed3 engine in the RX-8, combining the proven RWD RX-8 chassis with the more powerful, more torqueful, more durable, and more efficient 4-cylinder turbo. For marketing, they could multiply the numbers on the tachometer by 1.5 so that the thing will redline at an indicated 10,000 RPM.

  • avatar

    Definitely looks promising – we’ll have to wait on pricing and weight.

  • avatar
    cRacK hEaD aLLeY

    Looks good to me.

    I want one in red. Make it the GL version with the 15″ wheels with plastic covers, 4-speed automatic and rear drums with the available rear wing and ground effect kit.

  • avatar
    psarhjinian

    When will Mazda see the light and put the ’speed3 engine in the RX-8, combining the proven RWD RX-8 chassis with the more powerful, more torqueful, more durable, and more efficient 4-cylinder turbo.

    Apologies in advance for going O/T…

    When they figure out how to get around the fundamental issues of balance and packaging.

    Seriously, have you looked at a rotary? It’s much, much smaller than any I4, let alone one equipped with forced induction. There’s no way the end result wouldn’t be dynamically compromised in some fashion, unless the resulting car ballooned in price.

    An engine like this one—a boxer four—would help matters somewhat, but a) Mazda doesn’t have anything like this available and b) it’d still be compromised.

    The RX-8′s engine more or less allows it to be the sweet-handling sports car it is, at a price that doesn’t kiss Porsche or Corvette levels. There’s no magic, it’s a simple formula: balance, speed, low price: pick two.

  • avatar
    the duke

    has been revealed at the Tokyo Auto Show

    Normally I wouldn’t be a pedant, but since TTAC prides itself on truth and grammar, technically the Toyobaru coupe will be revealed, and has been previewed – the Tokyo show hasn’t happened yet (press days start Oct. 21).

    Back to the post – I’m super stoked on this car. I like subie motors and RWD coupes, so if Toyota doesn’t screw it up there is a great chance this will find its way into my garage some day.

  • avatar
    joeaverage

    Maybe I’m turning into one of those guys who quit liking new cars about a decade or three back…

    I hate that…

  • avatar
    dean

    CyCarConsulting beat me to it. Almost a dead ringer for a G35. Which is not a bad thing.

  • avatar
    RobAllen

    It looks like the love child of a Celica and an RX-8 . I’ll be in line for one, but why not keep the AWD with a rear wheel bias?

  • avatar

    It looks very nice, definitely more stylish and interesting than Acura’s TSX (Is that the competitor for this?) I like the styling in the front a lot. Looks like a 1-series though towards the back; just without the crimps or whatever; the Toyota is a lot smoother…

  • avatar
    Areitu

    Looks like a Scion TC rear ended a GTR that was parked behind an S2000.

  • avatar
    seanx37

    Nice. Not great, but nice. Now let’s see how it is priced. Needs to be about $18000 to start. And maybe $28 for a turbo/awd. Assuming, you know, we have an economy left by 2012 to sell cars in .

  • avatar
    Rod Panhard

    Konichiwa!

    My first car was a first generation Celica. So I’m happy to see this.

    Now, if they take that platform and put something a little sedan-like on it, harking back to, oh, the Corona legacy. Only with handling…like a Datsun 510.

  • avatar
    petrolhead85

    Price it around the level of the turbo 2.0L Genesis coupe and I’d probably buy one.

  • avatar
    Power6

    2.0 boxer? It’s just a new tC until they stuff the 2.5 turbo in there…

  • avatar
    Geotpf

    Power6 :
    October 6th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    2.0 boxer? It’s just a new tC until they stuff the 2.5 turbo in there…

    The tC is FWD; this is RWD. Plus, they aren’t going for sheer power in any case-the AE86 only was 1587 ccs with 130 hp, and this is clearly supposed to be a modern version of that.

  • avatar
    CarPerson

    Many years ago a car manufacturer was caught making plaster casts of pot holes to take back to their test track to duplicate the New York City streets. We need more of this real-world validation of a car’s performance, not the de-contenting, particularly NHV, we’re being subject to.

    Start in Issaquah, WA and drive east on I-90 until you hit Cle Elum, a trip of about an hour. At many points, the noise level, measured at ear-level between the driver and passenger, can exceed 100db in a new Honda Accord. This is a car many blindly believe is quiet?

    I walked away from an Acura RSX several years ago to avoid hearing damage. Unless they are committed to getting the sound level down to something well within OSHA approved levels, they can keep it.

  • avatar
    blau

    CarPerson: did you try turning down the radio?

  • avatar
    Richard Chen

    @CarPerson: FWIW 10 1/2 years in a Miata didn’t hurt my high-frequency hearing, despite my wife’s claims to the contrary, nice flat frequency response on the audiogram.

  • avatar
    Sinistermisterman

    Mmm. This looks nice.
    It’s about time Toyota came up with a new Sports car/coupe. The absense of anything remotely sexy/interesting from their lineup has made them possibly the most boring looking car manufacturer in the world. They better release this quick, I mean even Hyundai have a sports car now!

  • avatar
    Power6

    The tC is FWD; this is RWD. Plus, they aren’t going for sheer power in any case-the AE86 only was 1587 ccs with 130 hp, and this is clearly supposed to be a modern version of that.

    That is a fine point, but I thought all of the hubub about this car was the WRX goodness in a small RWD coupe.

    130hp was a lot in the days of the old AE86, but it isn’t now. If this thing is going to start “below 30k” (i.e. 29,995) in USD, it is going to compete with the Genesis Coupe, and that has turbo power.

    I’m not speaking from a personal POV, just seems to me at that price point the market will demand some HP.

  • avatar

    Geotpf:

    The AE86 produced 112 horsepower, not 130. Maybe a few more later in the run, but still south of 120. OTOH, the 1980s Corolla weighed somewhere around 2,300 pounds. This car will be considerably heavier.

    I am pleased to see more affordable RWD cars on the horizon. Now please offer a 5-door hatch on this chassis.

  • avatar
    mkirk

    Doesn’t seem like a lot of car for the 30 k price point. Plus doesn’t this reek of GM? We can’t build a sports car, so let’s buy a company that can.

  • avatar
    PeteMoran

    I wonder who’ll be the first to swap in a Prodrive or STI EJ207. The Subaru World Rally Team don’t need them anymore.

  • avatar
    PGM-FI

    I’m all for Toyota bringing back an inherantly hoon-able car. My first was an ’81 Celica with the 22r/5spd. Unbreakable. Even after numerous redline clutch drops & endless gravel road mayham. Sign me up for a blue one in 2020 when I’ll want to relive my former drifting glory.

  • avatar

    The info over at Autoweek suggests a starting price near 20. 30k would be for a loaded car. So sounds like the pricing will be similar to the Gesesis Coupe.

  • avatar

    No one else sees a slightly stretched 350Z when they look at this thing? That’s what jumped out more prominently than the G35, which is just a stretched 350Z…never mind. I like my WRX, but probably wouldn’t bother with this. By the time this arrives, used 2009 Z06s will be in the mid-to-high $20k range

  • avatar
    PeteMoran

    @ TampaWRX

    Definitely some Z in the rear quarter, but I thought more of the LF-A than either of those.

    Mind you, if they bring the LF-A and put the 5L V10 back I’d be interested in the convertible. (I like it – a LOT!)

    Could there be convertible for the Toyobaru?

  • avatar
    mistrernee

    Toyota needs a car like this… too bad it’s just a Subaru underneath.

    The dealer in the automall in Richmond BC has a tidy 2000GT parked in their showroom, it’s surrounded by Corollas and Camrys. The sales guys try to hype the Corolla XRS and pass off the Matrix as a sports car, meanwhile the ghost of Toyotas past lurks in the corner of the showroom mocking their every word.

  • avatar
    CarPerson

    @ Richard Chen: @CarPerson: FWIW 10 1/2 years in a Miata didn’t hurt my high-frequency hearing, despite my wife’s claims to the contrary, nice flat frequency response on the audiogram.

    Get your money back on that audiogram. The human hearing response is anything but flat.

  • avatar
    BD

    The front looks like a 370Z w/ a variation on the Genesis coupe’s headlights (or Hyundai’s Veloster concept).

  • avatar
    Richard Chen

    @CarPerson: the screening audiogram, admittedly a crude test, uses only 8 or so distinct tones between 125Hz and 10KHz.

    FWIW, Toyota chose a shade of red inspired by a monkey’s ass.

  • avatar
    CarPerson

    Jalopnic asks the question: Will Convertibles Make you Deaf?

    http://jalopnik.com/5376088/will-convertibles-make-you-deaf

    One could ask “Define deaf”? although in the long run it’s best to embrace the answer is “Heck yes!”

  • avatar
    rx8

    When will Mazda See the light and put a 2.3 Banger Turbo in the RX-8…well it won’t be an RX-8 then will it…Derrr.

    The Rotary is What MAKES the RX-8 what it is, one of the best handling and balanced chassis ever, over all cars ever made…big statement yes, but in the top 6 of all time great chassis and the MX-5 is in that category too as it shares a shortened version of the RX-8′s chassis which is also number 3 for rigidity over any other car made, Number 2 is a Ferrari F50, N 1 went to a 4 tonne Rolls Royce.

    Being an owner of the latest RX-8, I am over the moon with this wonderful car, PLENTY Fast enough, the Chassis, Brake, gearbox, everything, you can not fault them (paintwork could be much better, eco friendly water base rubbish). It is the BALANCE of any CAR, the TOTAL Package and the RX-8 has it all, you really don’t know what you are missing, the car is you and you are the CAR..

    Have you ever owned a car that feels part of you??

    This one does it too you.


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