Piston Slap: Hyundai's Religious Society of Friends

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Longtime TTAC reader dastanley writes:

As a TTAC reader and sometimes blog participant, I have a question about motor oil in our 2008 Hyundai Tucson with the 2.7L V-6. The owner’s manual recommends Quaker State 5W20, 5W30, and 10W30 in that preferential order. Why Quaker State? Is there an engineering/operational reason for that particular brand or is that a marketing deal where Hyundai gets cheaper oil for their new cars off the assembly lines if they recommend Quaker State?

Sajeev replies:

If this were Pistonhead Jeopardy, I’d go with “Marketing Tie-Ins for $800, Alex.”

The Ferrari Enzo has unique oil requirements, fitting well with their lease-to-own scheme. More to the point, a Tucson ain’t no Enzo. All oils meet specifications (that minimalist donut graphic on every quart of oil) set by the American Petroleum Institute. I doubt Quaker State has any significant benefit over other oil manufacturers. Use whatever you want; even Wal-Mart’s SupraTech oil gets the job done. As mentioned previously, switch to synthetic oil if you plan on keeping this Tucson as a family heirloom.

And legally, there’s no reason (via voiding your warranty) for Hyundai to punish you for choosing other brands over Quaker State. As TTAC commentator skor mentioned, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act shall save your bacon. This law (per Wikipedia) states that, “Warrantors cannot require that only branded parts be used with the product in order to retain the warranty.” Indeed.

Back to the question: there’s no engineering or legal incentive for a manufacturer to “recommend” one brand over another. Until you follow the money: there’s a good reason why Hyundai is in love with Quaker State. Marketing skills über alles.

[send your technical queries to mehta@ttac.com]

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  • Shaker Shaker on May 21, 2009

    05gt: Thanks, no guilt using anything with the right grade... John Horner:"FWIW, Quaker State is one of the brands of SOPUS..." Cripes! Victimized by another "Shell Game!". Per an enthusiast's website, I run Rotella T (blue bottle) in my Kawasaki Z750S... So, I guess that makes me a "Shell" man. :-P :-)

  • Dastanley Dastanley on May 21, 2009

    Thanks Sajeev for answering my question. To make a long story short, our '05 RAV4 was totaled in an accident. No injuries (and no, I was not driving) but about a month ago my wife, daughter, and myself went to Carmax in Albuquerque with the intent of getting another RAV4 (I HATE the process of buying a used vehicle and Carmax seemed the easy way out). My wife saw the Tucson, liked it, and that was that. Carmax performed an oil change before we bought it but I'm planning to change the oil early to get on the same schedule as our Corolla and to switch to either blend or synthetic. Thanks again Sajeev!

  • EBFlex No they shouldn’t. It would be signing their death warrant. The UAW is steadfast in moving as much production out of this country as possible
  • Groza George The South is one of the few places in the U.S. where we still build cars. Unionizing Southern factories will speed up the move to Mexico.
  • FreedMike I'd say that question is up to the southern auto workers. If I were in their shoes, I probably wouldn't if the wages/benefits were at at some kind of parity with unionized shops. But let's be clear here: the only thing keeping those wages/benefits at par IS the threat of unionization.
  • 1995 SC So if they vote it down, the UAW gets to keep trying. Is there a means for a UAW factory to decide they no longer wish to be represented and vote the union out?
  • Lorenzo The Longshoreman/philosopher Eri Hoffer postulated "Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and ends up as a racket." That pretty much describes the progression of the United Auto Workers since World War II, so if THEY are the union, the answer is 'no'.
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