Honda Has Its Phill of the Future

Richard Chen
by Richard Chen

Yesterday Mr. Leikanger wrote about his frustrating experiences with KitchenAid’s Espresso Pro. The compressed natural-gas powered (CNG) Honda Civic GX also has the option of quenching its thirst with a home appliance. The Phill is an electrically powered, mechanically complex, high pressure (up to 3600psi) pump. The Phill can be a pain to get serviced when it breaks down, and refurbished units are available for purchase. Oops, make that, were available. Honda of America, Fuelmaker’s sole owner, declared Fuelmaker’s bankruptcy last week and fired all of its employees. HoMoCo is liquidating the company’s assets. Huh? The maker of “America’s Greenest Car of 2008,” shooting itself in the foot?

Honda hasn’t commented so far on the apparent demise of Fuelmaker, which also made CNG fueling pumps. There’s no official press release on Honda’s site, nor have changes been made so far to Fuelmaker, Phill, or Civic GX web pages.

Honda bought into Fuelmaker some years back and was in talks to sell it to T. Boone Pickens’ Clean Energy Fuels but was called off. Conventional wisdom with the current economic climate would suggest that Fuelmaker is going the way of Honda’s Formula 1 team and the stillborn 2nd generation NSX. Edwin Black, who previously claimed that Honda is out to box the Civic GX while milking its good publicity, claims it’s a conspiracy.

The Phill ended up costing $4000, twice as much originally planned. Mandatory installation by a certified dealer added at least another $1000, on top of the Civic GX’s MSRP of $25K. Most CNG drivers fuel up in minutes at high-pressure pumps, either at public or corporate stations, rather than wait overnight with Phill.

In the meantime, consumer interest in the GX dropped with gas prices last fall, never mind the benefit of being able to use HOV lanes. Previously flying out the showrooms at thousands above MSRP, they’re now waiting for absent buyers.

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  • Niky Niky on Apr 13, 2009

    Wow, LPG is almost as much as gas there? You guys have it bad. Our LPG is still pegged at about half-the-price of gasoline. There was a point where it got to about 60-70%, due to an artificial shortage brought about by hoarding (when gas prices went down), but now it's back down to an acceptable level.

  • Roldham Roldham on Jul 01, 2009

    Except for CNG retailers like Clean Energy, Pinnacle, etc. that charge a healthy margin, CNG has continued to be cheap. In many places it is half the price or even less at public stations. I personally have a Phill in my garage. In Austin, the economics make good sense. In addition to the $2,000 federal tax credit, out local gas utility provides an additional $1,500 rebate. With my fuel cost at about $1 a gallon equivalent, it won't take long to pay for the Phill. BTW, FuelMaker (the maker of Phill) has been acquired by Fuel Systems Solutions and they are back in business without Honda.

  • ToolGuy Is the idle high? How many codes are behind the check engine light? How many millions to address the traction issue? What's the little triangular warning lamp about?
  • Ajla Using an EV for going to landfill or parking at the bad shopping mall or taking a trip to Sex Cauldron. Then the legacy engines get saved for the driving I want to do. 🤔
  • SaulTigh Unless we start building nuclear plants and beefing up the grid, this drive to electrification (and not just cars) will be the destruction of modern society. I hope you love rolling blackouts like the US was some third world failed state. You don't support 8 billion people on this planet without abundant and relatively cheap energy.So no, I don't want an electric car, even if it's cheap.
  • 3-On-The-Tree Lou_BCone of many cars I sold when I got commissioned into the army. 1964 Dodge D100 with slant six and 3 on the tree, 1973 Plymouth Duster with slant six, 1974 dodge dart custom with a 318. 1990 Bronco 5.0 which was our snowboard rig for Wa state and Whistler/Blackcomb BC. Now :my trail rigs are a 1985 Toyota FJ60 Land cruiser and 86 Suzuki Samurai.
  • RHD They are going to crash and burn like Country Garden and Evergrande (the Chinese property behemoths) if they don't fix their problems post-haste.
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