Navistar and Ford Settle Their Differences

John Horner
by John Horner

The long running Navistar/Ford dispute over warranty claims, pricing and other supply details vis-à-vis the Navistar-made Powerstroke diesel engines is over. The official press release [via Yahoo! News] gets right to the point: “Ford Motor Company and Navistar International Corporation have reached an agreement to restructure their ongoing business relationship and settle all existing litigation between the companies.” The engine supply deal is officially dead as of December 31, 2009. Cash is changing hands, but nobody is saying how much: “As a result of the agreement, Ford will make a payment to Navistar.” The South American and Blue Diamond F-650/750 joint projects will continue, for now. Cummins is the supplier of record for Ford branded F-650 and F-750 diesel engines but the trucks are actually produced in Mexico based on a Navistar design. International, meanwhile, sells version of the same trucks with its own engines.

Outside of the Blue Diamond deal, Navistar seems to be backing away as fast as possible from the 2.8. Navistar recently pulled out of a deal to buy GM’s remaining large truck business, and now they are out of the Super Duty engine supply game. Ford’s new in-house 4.4 liter Powerstroke design is a done deal for that magical model year 2010. Little love seems to be lost between the Powerstroke owner’s community and Navistar, so don’t expect a big run on the remaining 08/09 Navistar powered Super Duty trucks.

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  • Fallout11 Fallout11 on Jan 16, 2009

    The Navistar-sourced 6.0L powerstroke diesel engines were unmitigated garbage, a fitting match for a '72 Vega but not much else. Navistar thought they had Ford by the balls with contract legalese, committing them to continued payment and acceptance of substandard manufactured engines for the duration without recourse. Apparently Ford saw things differently and decided that even a breach of contract punitive award was worth it to get out of, as JGH correctly compared, a Firestone-like situation.

  • Anonymous Anonymous on Jan 16, 2009

    The 6.4 Stroker not much better. 7 count em 7 radiators and coolers in front of a cramped engine bay. And when your Ford dealer needs to replace the Powerstroke? No problem. They only need to remove the entire cab assembly from the frame to do the job! In the light and medium duty arena the Cummins and Duramax are far superior.

  • Bkojote Allright, actual person who knows trucks here, the article gets it a bit wrong.First off, the Maverick is not at all comparable to a Tacoma just because they're both Hybrids. Or lemme be blunt, the butch-est non-hybrid Maverick Tremor is suitable for 2/10 difficulty trails, a Trailhunter is for about 5/10 or maybe 6/10, just about the upper end of any stock vehicle you're buying from the factory. Aside from a Sasquatch Bronco or Rubicon Jeep Wrangler you're looking at something you're towing back if you want more capability (or perhaps something you /wish/ you were towing back.)Now, where the real world difference should play out is on the trail, where a lot of low speed crawling usually saps efficiency, especially when loaded to the gills. Real world MPG from a 4Runner is about 12-13mpg, So if this loaded-with-overlander-catalog Trailhunter is still pulling in the 20's - or even 18-19, that's a massive improvement.
  • Lou_BC "That’s expensive for a midsize pickup" All of the "offroad" midsize trucks fall in that 65k USD range. The ZR2 is probably the cheapest ( without Bison option).
  • Lou_BC There are a few in my town. They come out on sunny days. I'd rather spend $29k on a square body Chevy
  • Lou_BC I had a 2010 Ford F150 and 2010 Toyota Sienna. The F150 went through 3 sets of brakes and Sienna 2 sets. Similar mileage and 10 year span.4 sets tires on F150. Truck needed a set of rear shocks and front axle seals. The solenoid in the T-case was replaced under warranty. I replaced a "blend door motor" on heater. Sienna needed a water pump and heater blower both on warranty. One TSB then recall on spare tire cable. Has a limp mode due to an engine sensor failure. At 11 years old I had to replace clutch pack in rear diff F150. My ZR2 diesel at 55,000 km. Needs new tires. Duratrac's worn and chewed up. Needed front end alignment (1st time ever on any truck I've owned).Rear brakes worn out. Left pads were to metal. Chevy rear brakes don't like offroad. Weird "inside out" dents in a few spots rear fenders. Typically GM can't really build an offroad truck issue. They won't warranty. Has fender-well liners. Tore off one rear shock protector. Was cheaper to order from GM warehouse through parts supplier than through Chevy dealer. Lots of squeaks and rattles. Infotainment has crashed a few times. Seat heater modual was on recall. One of those post sale retrofit.Local dealer is horrific. If my son can't service or repair it, I'll drive 120 km to the next town. 1st and last Chevy. Love the drivetrain and suspension. Fit and finish mediocre. Dealer sucks.
  • MaintenanceCosts You expect everything on Amazon and eBay to be fake, but it's a shame to see fake stuff on Summit Racing. Glad they pulled it.
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