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	<title>Comments on: 2009 Nissan GT-R Review</title>
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		<title>By: gtr-carefree</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-3/#comment-1179632</link>
		<dc:creator>gtr-carefree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 03:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have owned 2004 Gallardo 6 speed, 2006 Gallardo 6 speed, 2005 f-430 6 speed, 2006 f-430 F1, Gallardo Superleggera e-gear, 997 Turbo 6 speed and may others...just picked up my GT-R yesterday...NO REGRETS - what those cars depreciate in 3 months is what this car is worth. AND it is worth every penny...a v10 and v8 sound great but this car for 80k is WOW and i can take my daughter to school in it (car seat in the rear small seats) + a trunk. WHAT else can I say? If you want to get laid get a Gallardo, if you want to be able to get out of your SUPERCAR without twisting your back and without all the attention but with the the thrills get a GT-R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I have owned 2004 Gallardo 6 speed, 2006 Gallardo 6 speed, 2005 f-430 6 speed, 2006 f-430 F1, Gallardo Superleggera e-gear, 997 Turbo 6 speed and may others&#8230;just picked up my GT-R yesterday&#8230;NO REGRETS &#8211; what those cars depreciate in 3 months is what this car is worth. AND it is worth every penny&#8230;a v10 and v8 sound great but this car for 80k is WOW and i can take my daughter to school in it (car seat in the rear small seats) + a trunk. WHAT else can I say? If you want to get laid get a Gallardo, if you want to be able to get out of your SUPERCAR without twisting your back and without all the attention but with the the thrills get a GT-R<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: dustman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-3/#comment-786062</link>
		<dc:creator>dustman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an owner of high end sports cars, I opted to purchase the GTR based on the stellar global reviews of the vehicle. I was not a fan of the styling at all, nor the whimpy exhaust, racer-boy spoilers, or Nissan badge.
With 600 miles under my belt, I am appreciating the car more with each drive. They styling will never match the 360, 430, Astin&#039;s, etc unfortunately. But, the confidence I have driving this car hard/fast vastly exceeds that of the other cars I have owned, and that is enough to warrant high praise from me.
Plenty of flaws in and outside the GTR, but a piece of automotive history that is forcing more notable manufacturers to upgrade their vehicles. 
I still think the F360 Spider is the car (not too fast/quick, but draws all the attention you&#039;d want).
Love the web site; it&#039;s what I&#039;d design given time/talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->As an owner of high end sports cars, I opted to purchase the GTR based on the stellar global reviews of the vehicle. I was not a fan of the styling at all, nor the whimpy exhaust, racer-boy spoilers, or Nissan badge.<br />
With 600 miles under my belt, I am appreciating the car more with each drive. They styling will never match the 360, 430, Astin&#8217;s, etc unfortunately. But, the confidence I have driving this car hard/fast vastly exceeds that of the other cars I have owned, and that is enough to warrant high praise from me.<br />
Plenty of flaws in and outside the GTR, but a piece of automotive history that is forcing more notable manufacturers to upgrade their vehicles.<br />
I still think the F360 Spider is the car (not too fast/quick, but draws all the attention you&#8217;d want).<br />
Love the web site; it&#8217;s what I&#8217;d design given time/talent.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: kunfused7</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-3/#comment-555652</link>
		<dc:creator>kunfused7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love nissan having owned two se-r specs, one a 04 and the other an 08, they make good reliable cars that are fast although in some cases terribly ugly and i agree that the gtr is ugly but it has always been that way let&#039;s face it nissan makes ugly performance driven cars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->i love nissan having owned two se-r specs, one a 04 and the other an 08, they make good reliable cars that are fast although in some cases terribly ugly and i agree that the gtr is ugly but it has always been that way let&#8217;s face it nissan makes ugly performance driven cars<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: moto</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-3/#comment-552092</link>
		<dc:creator>moto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job on chassis development, Nissan.  Sounds like the GT-R performs well.  Now fire your design staff and fix the thing.  Not only is it ugly from all angles (this is NOT as case of &quot;form follows function&quot;), but the interior is not terribly impressive either.  Oh, sure, Nissan fans will proudly proclaim that the ugliness is important because at this price point, you shouldn&#039;t expect to drive a handsome, tight fit&amp;finish car.  Sorry, it doesn&#039;t get my vote.

Oh, and the ZR-1 handily beat it around Nurburgring.  I guess buying the GT-R just for bragging rights doesn&#039;t make much sense either.

If i wanted an AWD supercar, it would be an Audi RS4 Avant.  I don&#039;t live near Nurburgring, and the A4 is a more satisfying car for daily use no matter how you measure it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Good job on chassis development, Nissan.  Sounds like the GT-R performs well.  Now fire your design staff and fix the thing.  Not only is it ugly from all angles (this is NOT as case of &#8220;form follows function&#8221;), but the interior is not terribly impressive either.  Oh, sure, Nissan fans will proudly proclaim that the ugliness is important because at this price point, you shouldn&#8217;t expect to drive a handsome, tight fit&amp;finish car.  Sorry, it doesn&#8217;t get my vote.</p>
<p>Oh, and the ZR-1 handily beat it around Nurburgring.  I guess buying the GT-R just for bragging rights doesn&#8217;t make much sense either.</p>
<p>If i wanted an AWD supercar, it would be an Audi RS4 Avant.  I don&#8217;t live near Nurburgring, and the A4 is a more satisfying car for daily use no matter how you measure it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Esvees</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-3/#comment-519561</link>
		<dc:creator>Esvees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a simple fact that GT-R isn&#039;t the best supercar in the world, but that&#039;s not what it&#039;s supposed to be. Pose-value aside, there are few sounds in the world that can compare to the soulful howl of a Ferrari or the hungry rasp of an Aston. And the steering feedback is second-to-none.

The point is, this is a car many of us could actually own at some point, whereas due to cost a Ferrari will always be a pipe dream; and owning an Aston or Ferrari brings its own set of problems. 

Nissan has done the hard part; the GT-R is an engineering masterpiece. It has built the base of something that can be truly exceptional. With the money you save, I&#039; m sure there&#039;s plenty of soul or wow-factor you can add, making the car even more special than any off-the shelf Ferrari. And I&#039;m sure the apparent numbness is something that can be fixed.</description>
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<p>The point is, this is a car many of us could actually own at some point, whereas due to cost a Ferrari will always be a pipe dream; and owning an Aston or Ferrari brings its own set of problems. </p>
<p>Nissan has done the hard part; the GT-R is an engineering masterpiece. It has built the base of something that can be truly exceptional. With the money you save, I&#8217; m sure there&#8217;s plenty of soul or wow-factor you can add, making the car even more special than any off-the shelf Ferrari. And I&#8217;m sure the apparent numbness is something that can be fixed.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: akirachan</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-3/#comment-463001</link>
		<dc:creator>akirachan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this review interesting because it&#039;s missing the point:
most people that would buy the GT-R probably don&#039;t care what a car looks like, or if the car attracts attention from the gold-digger types. I don&#039;t care for those things: I would buy this thing because it&#039;s a bargain performer, and it&#039;s non-assuming. It can roast any car in its price range, and most cars in any price range.

I am glad to know that the Porsche or Aston buyers would not look twice at a GT-R. 

As for the NS-X, it&#039;s a totally different beast: Honda aimed to make a reliable 2-seater entry-level Ferrari-killer for fraction of the price: GT-R aimed to be a world-class killer period, at fraction of the price, and  Nissan succeeded.

Some people can&#039;t get used to the idea that a Japanese car company can come up with its own thing, and play the game, and do better at it. It&#039;s happened in the past. But those cars have always stood the test of time and are respected now. At least by people who have sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I find this review interesting because it&#8217;s missing the point:<br />
most people that would buy the GT-R probably don&#8217;t care what a car looks like, or if the car attracts attention from the gold-digger types. I don&#8217;t care for those things: I would buy this thing because it&#8217;s a bargain performer, and it&#8217;s non-assuming. It can roast any car in its price range, and most cars in any price range.</p>
<p>I am glad to know that the Porsche or Aston buyers would not look twice at a GT-R. </p>
<p>As for the NS-X, it&#8217;s a totally different beast: Honda aimed to make a reliable 2-seater entry-level Ferrari-killer for fraction of the price: GT-R aimed to be a world-class killer period, at fraction of the price, and  Nissan succeeded.</p>
<p>Some people can&#8217;t get used to the idea that a Japanese car company can come up with its own thing, and play the game, and do better at it. It&#8217;s happened in the past. But those cars have always stood the test of time and are respected now. At least by people who have sense.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ProjectEF</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-3/#comment-451292</link>
		<dc:creator>ProjectEF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It almost seems as though GTR enthusiasts are upset that some people (euro crowd) aren&#039;t willing to switch sides, and crown it king of cars.  It never occurs to them or the general majority of Japanese car enthusiasts that some people could possibly like European cars, regardless of the persons age, (namely Porsche&#039;s, Bimmers,Ferrari&#039;s, etc.) for reasons deeper than the badge or so called status. In my personal experience, many of the Japanese sports cars up until now have always felt like they were made just to one up or compete on the same level with some European counterpart...nothing more, nothing less. They never (to me) felt like they were created just for the thrill of the drive, to create a sensory overload, or to just push the technical advancement limits.  And why would they?  In the Beginning, that wasn&#039;t the plan for the companies  This GTR (like the others) seems the same. It&#039;s faster than almost anything else, but exists simply to say..Look, we can do better than you!  Those many enthusiasts whose only concern is how fast a car will do anything will and do love this.  Props to Nissan for creating this feat of engineering though.  I will continue to drive my insanely slow &quot;other&quot; cars, and enjoy every minute  in them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It almost seems as though GTR enthusiasts are upset that some people (euro crowd) aren&#8217;t willing to switch sides, and crown it king of cars.  It never occurs to them or the general majority of Japanese car enthusiasts that some people could possibly like European cars, regardless of the persons age, (namely Porsche&#8217;s, Bimmers,Ferrari&#8217;s, etc.) for reasons deeper than the badge or so called status. In my personal experience, many of the Japanese sports cars up until now have always felt like they were made just to one up or compete on the same level with some European counterpart&#8230;nothing more, nothing less. They never (to me) felt like they were created just for the thrill of the drive, to create a sensory overload, or to just push the technical advancement limits.  And why would they?  In the Beginning, that wasn&#8217;t the plan for the companies  This GTR (like the others) seems the same. It&#8217;s faster than almost anything else, but exists simply to say..Look, we can do better than you!  Those many enthusiasts whose only concern is how fast a car will do anything will and do love this.  Props to Nissan for creating this feat of engineering though.  I will continue to drive my insanely slow &#8220;other&#8221; cars, and enjoy every minute  in them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: didgeridoouke</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-3/#comment-443071</link>
		<dc:creator>didgeridoouke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 22:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Safety + easy super-speed. Yummmm. It&#039;s not a girl&#039;s car and it&#039;s not pretty. It&#039;s a rebel&#039;s machine so I&#039;m buying one. If it reliably does its job, and isn&#039;t unbearably hard in daily use, I&#039;ll be happy. I can always buy a Porsche for a compliant ride and diffident service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Safety + easy super-speed. Yummmm. It&#8217;s not a girl&#8217;s car and it&#8217;s not pretty. It&#8217;s a rebel&#8217;s machine so I&#8217;m buying one. If it reliably does its job, and isn&#8217;t unbearably hard in daily use, I&#8217;ll be happy. I can always buy a Porsche for a compliant ride and diffident service.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: campocaceres</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-3/#comment-432312</link>
		<dc:creator>campocaceres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 21:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this review to be refreshing.  Seems to reinforce the suspicions I&#039;ve had about this car:  filled to the brim with character, but lacking soul.</description>
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		<title>By: DrRodge</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-3/#comment-424262</link>
		<dc:creator>DrRodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the writer of this review just doesn&#039;t get it.  Not everyone wants the same old thing...BMW, Porsche, whatever.  It&#039;s great to see a car that is DIFFERENT.  I hate to say it, but the writer is just too old and out of it to understand what the GT-R is about.  The looks, the touch screen, the tranny - yes, it is non-conventional and that&#039;s what makes it great.  He also complains that no one noticed the car as he drove.  If your 65 a guess a 911 may be what you want, you want to show off that you made it.  But I&#039;m not 65 and I DON&#039;T want anyone to know (or assume) anything and I certainly don&#039;t want them to think I&#039;m trying to impress.  Buying a car for the prestige of the brand is for those who are insecure with their life and need some attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I feel the writer of this review just doesn&#8217;t get it.  Not everyone wants the same old thing&#8230;BMW, Porsche, whatever.  It&#8217;s great to see a car that is DIFFERENT.  I hate to say it, but the writer is just too old and out of it to understand what the GT-R is about.  The looks, the touch screen, the tranny &#8211; yes, it is non-conventional and that&#8217;s what makes it great.  He also complains that no one noticed the car as he drove.  If your 65 a guess a 911 may be what you want, you want to show off that you made it.  But I&#8217;m not 65 and I DON&#8217;T want anyone to know (or assume) anything and I certainly don&#8217;t want them to think I&#8217;m trying to impress.  Buying a car for the prestige of the brand is for those who are insecure with their life and need some attention.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jurisb</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-3/#comment-417322</link>
		<dc:creator>jurisb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 06:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quasimondo- You are so right. Except maybe Viper part. viper is soooo Dodge, whenever you see the interior. If Dodge wants a world class car, the fastest way to do it would be slapping central console from Durango in viper and leather wrap all those primitive plastic panels, and replace shitty weather strips, add chrome, then upgrade it at Hennessey Venom version and beat crap out of euro-coupes.
What concerns Nissan Gt-R, it is a history repeating itself. there are significant numbers of Toyota 93+ generation coupes, yet it is almost impossible to get even a second hand one, if it is a turbo version. targa version es even more rare.How come it is easier to find a 200K lambo, than 40K Supra?Because Supra is a legend. ANd the legend was born in 93` when Supra beat crap out of everything moved at that time- every Porsche and Ferrari. But what made Supra a legend, was its engine. The only engine in the world, that could survive doubling horsepower from 320 to even 500+ without major rebuilding and replacement of stock parts- valves, pistons, injectors, gaskets etc. in other words, you could buy a 400bucks boost controller and slap it into Supras face like a bitch, and she would take it like a man, without twitching and whining for replacement uberparts, without bleeding periods of oil gaskets or headaches of high temperature suffering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->quasimondo- You are so right. Except maybe Viper part. viper is soooo Dodge, whenever you see the interior. If Dodge wants a world class car, the fastest way to do it would be slapping central console from Durango in viper and leather wrap all those primitive plastic panels, and replace shitty weather strips, add chrome, then upgrade it at Hennessey Venom version and beat crap out of euro-coupes.<br />
What concerns Nissan Gt-R, it is a history repeating itself. there are significant numbers of Toyota 93+ generation coupes, yet it is almost impossible to get even a second hand one, if it is a turbo version. targa version es even more rare.How come it is easier to find a 200K lambo, than 40K Supra?Because Supra is a legend. ANd the legend was born in 93` when Supra beat crap out of everything moved at that time- every Porsche and Ferrari. But what made Supra a legend, was its engine. The only engine in the world, that could survive doubling horsepower from 320 to even 500+ without major rebuilding and replacement of stock parts- valves, pistons, injectors, gaskets etc. in other words, you could buy a 400bucks boost controller and slap it into Supras face like a bitch, and she would take it like a man, without twitching and whining for replacement uberparts, without bleeding periods of oil gaskets or headaches of high temperature suffering.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: quasimondo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-2/#comment-416891</link>
		<dc:creator>quasimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 22:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lutz is right.  There is a perception gap, except the gap is between the legitimacy of Japanese sports cars and sports cars from everybody else.

Think about it.  The Porsche 911 Turbo has much technological development invested in it than the GT-R, but you wouldn&#039;t dare call the Porsche the product of a video gamer&#039;s fantasy.  There&#039;s an undercurrent of snob appeal in believing that Japan doesn&#039;t have what it takes to build world-beater sports cars when they&#039;ve done it time and time again.  Everybody criticizes the NSX, but the NSX changed things for Ferrari and Lamborghini and forced them to build a car that doesn&#039;t require your mechanic to ride shotgun with you every time you take it out for a spin.  

While America has learned about Nissan Skylines from Gran Turismo, everybody else around the world knows the reputation they carry.  This isn&#039;t just some wild idea that Nissan one day had to build a supercar.  Even if it is, why should this be held against them?  The Corvette doesn&#039;t suffer the humiliation of being a Chevrolet.  The Viper doesn&#039;t suffer the humiliation of being a Dodge.  If people have no qualms about driving those vehicles, then you certainly shouldn&#039;t have any qualms about driving this car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Lutz is right.  There is a perception gap, except the gap is between the legitimacy of Japanese sports cars and sports cars from everybody else.</p>
<p>Think about it.  The Porsche 911 Turbo has much technological development invested in it than the GT-R, but you wouldn&#8217;t dare call the Porsche the product of a video gamer&#8217;s fantasy.  There&#8217;s an undercurrent of snob appeal in believing that Japan doesn&#8217;t have what it takes to build world-beater sports cars when they&#8217;ve done it time and time again.  Everybody criticizes the NSX, but the NSX changed things for Ferrari and Lamborghini and forced them to build a car that doesn&#8217;t require your mechanic to ride shotgun with you every time you take it out for a spin.  </p>
<p>While America has learned about Nissan Skylines from Gran Turismo, everybody else around the world knows the reputation they carry.  This isn&#8217;t just some wild idea that Nissan one day had to build a supercar.  Even if it is, why should this be held against them?  The Corvette doesn&#8217;t suffer the humiliation of being a Chevrolet.  The Viper doesn&#8217;t suffer the humiliation of being a Dodge.  If people have no qualms about driving those vehicles, then you certainly shouldn&#8217;t have any qualms about driving this car.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Durishin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Durishin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that a distinct generational difference in automotive design has arrived.  

My bet is that most of those who read and comment here on TTAC and have driven very involving sports cars which could be steered with throttle and/ or brake and perhaps even had only &quot;Armstrong&quot; PS, PB and PWs.  

Cars these days are - I will posit - designed by kids whose frame of reference is not an E-Type, 2002, 510 or even the 240SX.  No, their frame of reference is a video game simulation, where high performance is an academic exercise whose adrenaline rush is produced by results posted on a video screen not by the seat-of-the pants feeling one gets from slicing perfectly from apex to apex on a tree-lined road with the smell of hot exhaust filling the nostrils.

That cars designed from such a perspective are a bit - um  - antiseptic, is no surprise.</description>
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<p>My bet is that most of those who read and comment here on TTAC and have driven very involving sports cars which could be steered with throttle and/ or brake and perhaps even had only &#8220;Armstrong&#8221; PS, PB and PWs.  </p>
<p>Cars these days are &#8211; I will posit &#8211; designed by kids whose frame of reference is not an E-Type, 2002, 510 or even the 240SX.  No, their frame of reference is a video game simulation, where high performance is an academic exercise whose adrenaline rush is produced by results posted on a video screen not by the seat-of-the pants feeling one gets from slicing perfectly from apex to apex on a tree-lined road with the smell of hot exhaust filling the nostrils.</p>
<p>That cars designed from such a perspective are a bit &#8211; um  &#8211; antiseptic, is no surprise.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: vento97</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-2/#comment-415082</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 00:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; shoes:
When I finally saw the car in person and spent time behind the wheel (stationary), the reality set in- for me it was appearance challenged and uncomfortable.&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t feel bad.  Even if the looks didn&#039;t compel you to cancel the order, the $125+/barrel oil and the eventual escalation of gas prices WELL BEYOND the $4.00/gallon mark will.</description>
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When I finally saw the car in person and spent time behind the wheel (stationary), the reality set in- for me it was appearance challenged and uncomfortable.</i></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t feel bad.  Even if the looks didn&#8217;t compel you to cancel the order, the $125+/barrel oil and the eventual escalation of gas prices WELL BEYOND the $4.00/gallon mark will.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: shoes</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-2/#comment-413241</link>
		<dc:creator>shoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 15:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like everyone else here, I love fast and interesting cars. As soon as I heard about the performance specs on the GTR, I wanted one. When I was told they would be hard to get, I wanted one even more. When I finally saw the car in person and spent time behind the wheel (stationary), the reality set in- for me it was appearance challenged and uncomfortable.

I felt guilty when I canceled my order for the GTR, like I lost my own identity. Thank you Stephan for writing this piece and explaining why it isn&#039;t for everyone in a way that I can easily relate back to myself.</description>
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<p>I felt guilty when I canceled my order for the GTR, like I lost my own identity. Thank you Stephan for writing this piece and explaining why it isn&#8217;t for everyone in a way that I can easily relate back to myself.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Pch101</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-2/#comment-413071</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 15:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;There seems to be an undercurrent of a cultural inferiority complex (or, dare I say it, racism?) with respect to this vehicle.&lt;/em&gt;

Puhleeze.  Maybe you read a different review than what I did, but that isn&#039;t what Mr. Wilkinson said.

He didn&#039;t like the allegedly numb steering, was annoyed by the run flats (which generally are annoying everywhere else, so I can see how they could be an issue here), and thinks the dash is gimmicky.

Great cars (or, for that matter, just about everything else that is great) aren&#039;t a numbers game.  The whole package has to be there, with the sum greater than the parts.  It isn&#039;t measured by running it through a spreadsheet.

I could live with the dash, but if the handling is numb, that would personally kill it for me.  Performance isn&#039;t just about acceleration, it&#039;s about the tossability factor.  If you can&#039;t throw it around and feel good doing it, then it&#039;s just a muscle car and not at the level of an exotic.

I don&#039;t know if the author is right, as I haven&#039;t driven it myself.  But I&#039;ll bet you haven&#039;t driven it, either.  Unless you are a Nissan stockholder or your brother was on the GT-R&#039;s engineering team, why all the emotional investment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>There seems to be an undercurrent of a cultural inferiority complex (or, dare I say it, racism?) with respect to this vehicle.</em></p>
<p>Puhleeze.  Maybe you read a different review than what I did, but that isn&#8217;t what Mr. Wilkinson said.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t like the allegedly numb steering, was annoyed by the run flats (which generally are annoying everywhere else, so I can see how they could be an issue here), and thinks the dash is gimmicky.</p>
<p>Great cars (or, for that matter, just about everything else that is great) aren&#8217;t a numbers game.  The whole package has to be there, with the sum greater than the parts.  It isn&#8217;t measured by running it through a spreadsheet.</p>
<p>I could live with the dash, but if the handling is numb, that would personally kill it for me.  Performance isn&#8217;t just about acceleration, it&#8217;s about the tossability factor.  If you can&#8217;t throw it around and feel good doing it, then it&#8217;s just a muscle car and not at the level of an exotic.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if the author is right, as I haven&#8217;t driven it myself.  But I&#8217;ll bet you haven&#8217;t driven it, either.  Unless you are a Nissan stockholder or your brother was on the GT-R&#8217;s engineering team, why all the emotional investment?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Captain Neek</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-2/#comment-412802</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Neek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jurisb,

You hit the nail on the head.  Nothing comes close, at any price, and that may be what&#039;s inducing the cognitive dissonance...</description>
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<p>You hit the nail on the head.  Nothing comes close, at any price, and that may be what&#8217;s inducing the cognitive dissonance&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: simonptn</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-2/#comment-412561</link>
		<dc:creator>simonptn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit of a contrast to the very numerous glowing articles that have been published on Inside Line over the last few months.

I was not counting but the number is way into double figures - including driving impressions of a GT-R in a video game!

Looks like Edmunds is now a subsidiary of the Nissan marketing department.

However, I like ugly (let&#039;s say unconventional) ... I had one of the original Saab 99 Turbos ...  Mad torque steer, staggering turbo lag and no traction control.  Wheeeee!  You soon learned only to accelerate in a straight line.

a bit of a contrast to the all electronic GT-R. I would have one in a heartbeat.</description>
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<p>I was not counting but the number is way into double figures &#8211; including driving impressions of a GT-R in a video game!</p>
<p>Looks like Edmunds is now a subsidiary of the Nissan marketing department.</p>
<p>However, I like ugly (let&#8217;s say unconventional) &#8230; I had one of the original Saab 99 Turbos &#8230;  Mad torque steer, staggering turbo lag and no traction control.  Wheeeee!  You soon learned only to accelerate in a straight line.</p>
<p>a bit of a contrast to the all electronic GT-R. I would have one in a heartbeat.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: doctorv8</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-2/#comment-412522</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorv8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jurisb,

What about the Z06? Do you really think the ZR1 is the only Vette that qualifies for supercar status?</description>
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<p>What about the Z06? Do you really think the ZR1 is the only Vette that qualifies for supercar status?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: B.C.</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-2/#comment-412102</link>
		<dc:creator>B.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 07:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A car like this having numb steering is a capital sin.  A supercar that doesn&#039;t goad you into hooliganism means you&#039;re loafing, and loafing around in a supercar means you are a poseur.  Its like injecting your willy with novocaine before engaging in a mass orgy with horny supermodels.  Sure, you did it, and everyone envies you for doing it ... but how did it feel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A car like this having numb steering is a capital sin.  A supercar that doesn&#8217;t goad you into hooliganism means you&#8217;re loafing, and loafing around in a supercar means you are a poseur.  Its like injecting your willy with novocaine before engaging in a mass orgy with horny supermodels.  Sure, you did it, and everyone envies you for doing it &#8230; but how did it feel?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Brock_Landers</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-2/#comment-412062</link>
		<dc:creator>Brock_Landers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 06:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s fashionable for car buffs that visit this site to disagree with majority&#039;s opinion (media hype)on the GTR. Is it hard to accept that GTR is one of few cars that 100% live up to the hype?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It&#8217;s fashionable for car buffs that visit this site to disagree with majority&#8217;s opinion (media hype)on the GTR. Is it hard to accept that GTR is one of few cars that 100% live up to the hype?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jurisb</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-nissan-gt-r-review/comment-page-2/#comment-412031</link>
		<dc:creator>jurisb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 06:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For its direct purpose- How could nissan get 5 stars? To accelerate faster than an SR-71 Blacbird? to tolerate in corners 5Gs like formula 1? As if 3 something secs to 100 km/h is not good enough , as if scoring Nurburgring lap in 7: 29 is not good enough. may be you think the car is too expensive for this category? or You wanted for 70 k also Connolly leather  and self-parking assistance and polished titanium inserts? Those japanese negineers were running their asses of to build a supercoupe, and all you can say that it  will age fast and go nowhere like 300z or Supra.this year there are going to be only 2 supercoupes- Nissan GT-R v-spec and Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1. Why? because their price compared to competition is mind warping!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->For its direct purpose- How could nissan get 5 stars? To accelerate faster than an SR-71 Blacbird? to tolerate in corners 5Gs like formula 1? As if 3 something secs to 100 km/h is not good enough , as if scoring Nurburgring lap in 7: 29 is not good enough. may be you think the car is too expensive for this category? or You wanted for 70 k also Connolly leather  and self-parking assistance and polished titanium inserts? Those japanese negineers were running their asses of to build a supercoupe, and all you can say that it  will age fast and go nowhere like 300z or Supra.this year there are going to be only 2 supercoupes- Nissan GT-R v-spec and Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1. Why? because their price compared to competition is mind warping!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: peteypete</title>
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		<dc:creator>peteypete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review and very well written.  I can&#039;t believe the reaction considering the fact that the car received 4 out of 5 stars.  Honest disagreements are one thing, but these people seem to have something emotionally invested in this car.  Honestly, I don&#039;t get it.

I&#039;d love to drive one, in spite of it&#039;s looks (which may grow on me).  But much admiration goes to Nissan for raising the bar and making a statement.  All enthusiasts are the beneficiaries of the HP wars...Kudos to the Nissan (GTR), and GM (ZR1), and every other manufacturer willing to take a shot on a car that is neither affordable (by most standards) or practical but a pursuit in engineering perfection and performance brinkmanship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Great review and very well written.  I can&#8217;t believe the reaction considering the fact that the car received 4 out of 5 stars.  Honest disagreements are one thing, but these people seem to have something emotionally invested in this car.  Honestly, I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to drive one, in spite of it&#8217;s looks (which may grow on me).  But much admiration goes to Nissan for raising the bar and making a statement.  All enthusiasts are the beneficiaries of the HP wars&#8230;Kudos to the Nissan (GTR), and GM (ZR1), and every other manufacturer willing to take a shot on a car that is neither affordable (by most standards) or practical but a pursuit in engineering perfection and performance brinkmanship.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 23:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice review. 

From my point of view, vastly overdone car. Who needs 0-60 in 3.1? Why should any car weigh more than 3200 lbs? When driving, one needs to keep eyes on the road, not the geek screen. And it&#039; s not a thing of beauty.</description>
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<p>From my point of view, vastly overdone car. Who needs 0-60 in 3.1? Why should any car weigh more than 3200 lbs? When driving, one needs to keep eyes on the road, not the geek screen. And it&#8217; s not a thing of beauty.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: tubbsbright</title>
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		<dc:creator>tubbsbright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather have the Kenwood deck (and speakers)over the Bose...</description>
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