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		<title>By: fps_dean</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-1518577</link>
		<dc:creator>fps_dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lincoln v6 is smooother than the Cadillac v6? Really? I&#039;m having a hard time believing that, even assuming we&#039;re talking about the older v6 in the 2005-2007 models.

But anyway, still a nice car but it needs to be RWD.  I think this car is overall a nice offering for less performance oriented drivers who just want a nice car with plenty of options.   It&#039;s priced similar to the Hyundai Genesis, but you won&#039;t have to be getting a new transmission with every oil change on the Lincoln.

As much as I dislike how FWD handles, if I could just change one thing about this car, it would actually be the exterior look of the car.  While it&#039;s not the ugliest car on the road, the MKS looks like a Taurus with a fancy grill on the exterior (and more options and a better interior, but to the average car passing by they wouldn&#039;t even know thhat).  Itwould be a much more appealing car if it had a unique look to it.  When you see a Cadillac passing by you, you don&#039;t need to look at the logo on the front to tell it&#039;s a Cadillac and not a Buick or Chevrolet.  Likewise, when you see an Audi, you would have to be on a lot of crack to mistake it for a Volkswagen, and you&#039;d have to be downright retarded to mistake a Mercedes for a Smart Car.  But if someone sees a MKS from the side and mistakes it for a Taurus, that&#039;s completely understandable.</description>
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<p>But anyway, still a nice car but it needs to be RWD.  I think this car is overall a nice offering for less performance oriented drivers who just want a nice car with plenty of options.   It&#8217;s priced similar to the Hyundai Genesis, but you won&#8217;t have to be getting a new transmission with every oil change on the Lincoln.</p>
<p>As much as I dislike how FWD handles, if I could just change one thing about this car, it would actually be the exterior look of the car.  While it&#8217;s not the ugliest car on the road, the MKS looks like a Taurus with a fancy grill on the exterior (and more options and a better interior, but to the average car passing by they wouldn&#8217;t even know thhat).  Itwould be a much more appealing car if it had a unique look to it.  When you see a Cadillac passing by you, you don&#8217;t need to look at the logo on the front to tell it&#8217;s a Cadillac and not a Buick or Chevrolet.  Likewise, when you see an Audi, you would have to be on a lot of crack to mistake it for a Volkswagen, and you&#8217;d have to be downright retarded to mistake a Mercedes for a Smart Car.  But if someone sees a MKS from the side and mistakes it for a Taurus, that&#8217;s completely understandable.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: westcott</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-1168412</link>
		<dc:creator>westcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a car several months ago and test drove several cars. The Lincoln was not even considered and I sold mine for the new car. It is just plain ugly in person. I got a ride in a new one at lunch today and was very pleased with the interior. Plenty of room in the back, heated seats, ski pass through, nice stereo sound, high mounted GPS, nice screen graphics, lots of amenities. From the inside, I would have to give it an 8.5 out of ten. The downside, as I stated, it is just plain ugly on the outside. Looks like a bloated cow after three weeks in a hurricane force storm. It is also short on horsepower compared to what else is available. Give me the 98 Continental exterior with the MKS interior, and you would have a much more handsome package. Throw in a 350+hp engine option and we are talking competitive.</description>
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		<title>By: picard234</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-1137741</link>
		<dc:creator>picard234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sardonea:

Can you get adaptive cruise/headlamps/highbeams and rain sensing wipers in the competition?  Yes.

Can you get shiny plastichrome on the HVAC vents that reflects into your eyes?  The navigation screen that washes out in sunlight?  The Ford Focus gauge cluster?  The cheesy donkey-kong warning chimes?  No storage, just acres of hard plastic in the centerstack?  The infinitesimal trunk opening?

Nope.

Not trying to belittle the purchase you made with your hard-earned bucks.  I&#039;m glad you like it.  I just personally don&#039;t see it.</description>
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<p>Can you get adaptive cruise/headlamps/highbeams and rain sensing wipers in the competition?  Yes.</p>
<p>Can you get shiny plastichrome on the HVAC vents that reflects into your eyes?  The navigation screen that washes out in sunlight?  The Ford Focus gauge cluster?  The cheesy donkey-kong warning chimes?  No storage, just acres of hard plastic in the centerstack?  The infinitesimal trunk opening?</p>
<p>Nope.</p>
<p>Not trying to belittle the purchase you made with your hard-earned bucks.  I&#8217;m glad you like it.  I just personally don&#8217;t see it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ponchoman49</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-1106391</link>
		<dc:creator>ponchoman49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This car suffers the same fate as many recently introduced sedans. Cover up the badge and I would have no clue what the hell I was looking at. The lame meaningless letter name of MKS doesn&#039;t help one iota. The interior with it&#039;s tan or black only color scemes mimics the blandness brought to us from yours truly (Toyota)because blues and maroons are totally taboo from todays clueless generation. The powertrain gets a B, the exterior a D- and the interior a C. Incidentally my best friend rented a FWD model for a day and it&#039;s three best attributes were SYNC, interior room and the 3.7 liter V6. The tranny was very unsure of it&#039;self, the trunk has a mailbox slit for an opening along with the tiny rear window and who in there right mind would want 19&quot; or 20&quot; rims in Winter driving. We have truly come to a time when replacement tires for cars like this are going to set you back nearly a grand! And in a time when gas mileage is near the top of peoples list here comes Lincoln with a sedan that can only manage 24 on the open road(23 with AWD). We managed a mediocre 19.3 in various driving conditions. We didn&#039;t dislike the car overall and in fairness it was a pretty comfortable ride and quick. But with the big switch to RWD, we fail to see how this rather bland nondescript sedan is going to fare in todays Import biased society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This car suffers the same fate as many recently introduced sedans. Cover up the badge and I would have no clue what the hell I was looking at. The lame meaningless letter name of MKS doesn&#8217;t help one iota. The interior with it&#8217;s tan or black only color scemes mimics the blandness brought to us from yours truly (Toyota)because blues and maroons are totally taboo from todays clueless generation. The powertrain gets a B, the exterior a D- and the interior a C. Incidentally my best friend rented a FWD model for a day and it&#8217;s three best attributes were SYNC, interior room and the 3.7 liter V6. The tranny was very unsure of it&#8217;self, the trunk has a mailbox slit for an opening along with the tiny rear window and who in there right mind would want 19&#8243; or 20&#8243; rims in Winter driving. We have truly come to a time when replacement tires for cars like this are going to set you back nearly a grand! And in a time when gas mileage is near the top of peoples list here comes Lincoln with a sedan that can only manage 24 on the open road(23 with AWD). We managed a mediocre 19.3 in various driving conditions. We didn&#8217;t dislike the car overall and in fairness it was a pretty comfortable ride and quick. But with the big switch to RWD, we fail to see how this rather bland nondescript sedan is going to fare in todays Import biased society.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: sardonea</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-1069362</link>
		<dc:creator>sardonea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More info.
Why did I lease the Lincoln MKS after checking out and driving other alternatives? Check out the bang you get for your buck.
-the 12 position front seats adjustments, I love the high seating position which is similar
  to a SUV or mini van and give you a commanding view of the road. So much more
  comfortable on long trips then having to sit low with your legs stretched out.
-the 8” high resolution navigation system screen (that can be adjusted on the run), 
-the Microsoft SYNC (voice recognition system) that allows you to perform many
  operations such as operating the navigation, audio, phone, media, climate, display and 
  voice settings by speaking certain commands rather then being distracted by having to
  move the control knobs, buttons or touch the screen. 
-the Bluetooth feature that connects to two different cell phones and includes connection 
  to both phones’ contact lists. So all you have to do is say the contact name 
  using the SYNC system and it will call the number,
-the superb THX audio system, 
-the high resolution wide angle rearview camera system, 
-the forward and reverse parking sensing system, 
-the auto high beams, 
-the adaptive headlamps that move the beams in the same direction as the steering wheel, 
-the rain sensing wiper system, 
-the dual panel moon roofs, 
-the front heating and cooling front seats,
-the headed rear seats 
-and the wrap around lower door sills that keep your pant legs clean when you exit or 
  enter your car in muddy or snowy weather,
-the softest leather seats you can find and much-much more. 
-a surprise bonus is getting 27mpg on REGULAR gas when driving at 74mph on the 
 freeway and using the Adaptive Cruise Control. The Adaptive Cruise Control is an
 option a person might not add to their purchase but something they would find is one of 
 the best features in the MKS. For those not familiar with this option it is much like
 normal cruise control, only this radar based system is designed to automatically adjust
 your speed to maintain a proper distance between you and the vehicle in front of you in 
 the same lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->More info.<br />
Why did I lease the Lincoln MKS after checking out and driving other alternatives? Check out the bang you get for your buck.<br />
-the 12 position front seats adjustments, I love the high seating position which is similar<br />
  to a SUV or mini van and give you a commanding view of the road. So much more<br />
  comfortable on long trips then having to sit low with your legs stretched out.<br />
-the 8” high resolution navigation system screen (that can be adjusted on the run),<br />
-the Microsoft SYNC (voice recognition system) that allows you to perform many<br />
  operations such as operating the navigation, audio, phone, media, climate, display and<br />
  voice settings by speaking certain commands rather then being distracted by having to<br />
  move the control knobs, buttons or touch the screen.<br />
-the Bluetooth feature that connects to two different cell phones and includes connection<br />
  to both phones’ contact lists. So all you have to do is say the contact name<br />
  using the SYNC system and it will call the number,<br />
-the superb THX audio system,<br />
-the high resolution wide angle rearview camera system,<br />
-the forward and reverse parking sensing system,<br />
-the auto high beams,<br />
-the adaptive headlamps that move the beams in the same direction as the steering wheel,<br />
-the rain sensing wiper system,<br />
-the dual panel moon roofs,<br />
-the front heating and cooling front seats,<br />
-the headed rear seats<br />
-and the wrap around lower door sills that keep your pant legs clean when you exit or<br />
  enter your car in muddy or snowy weather,<br />
-the softest leather seats you can find and much-much more.<br />
-a surprise bonus is getting 27mpg on REGULAR gas when driving at 74mph on the<br />
 freeway and using the Adaptive Cruise Control. The Adaptive Cruise Control is an<br />
 option a person might not add to their purchase but something they would find is one of<br />
 the best features in the MKS. For those not familiar with this option it is much like<br />
 normal cruise control, only this radar based system is designed to automatically adjust<br />
 your speed to maintain a proper distance between you and the vehicle in front of you in<br />
 the same lane.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: sardonea</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-1069352</link>
		<dc:creator>sardonea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I leased a Lincoln MKS FWD with the Premium and Technical Packages and the optional Adaptive Cruise Control retailing for $45,000.What can I say about this car, now that I have 8,000 miles on it, besides the fact that it has all the luxury you’d want yet provides the most competent and exceptional quiet ride I have had in other luxury sedans I have leased..  

Don&#039;t reject the Lincoln MKS because of what you read from people’s comments since in most cases they have never even sat in one much less driven it. As for the test drive articles in many magazines the main complaint appears to be the fact that the MKS falls short on horsepower and lacks the firmness at high speeds on closed circuit winding roads. Although it may fall a bit short in horsepower against some of its European and Japanese luxury competitors it has, in most cases, more torque. This fact comes into play when you want to pass on rural roads or enter a freeway. To me this is more significant then pickup from a stop light and although it might lean more at 70mph on winding rural roads you can’t complain about its ride at sensible speeds on all types of roads.

Check out the bang you get for your buck. Compare this fully loaded luxury sedan to the other manufactures comparable models that offer similar space, most cases less features and then compare the price of ownership considering they all run on premium fuel and have higher insurance cost. (Examples of retail prices: MB E350 - $66,000+, BMW 535i - $67,000+, Caddy STS V6 - $56,000+, Infinity M35 - $56,000+ and the Lexus LS460 - $70,000+). Next drive them before you make up your mind. You might be surprised at the one you decide to purchase or lease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I leased a Lincoln MKS FWD with the Premium and Technical Packages and the optional Adaptive Cruise Control retailing for $45,000.What can I say about this car, now that I have 8,000 miles on it, besides the fact that it has all the luxury you’d want yet provides the most competent and exceptional quiet ride I have had in other luxury sedans I have leased..  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t reject the Lincoln MKS because of what you read from people’s comments since in most cases they have never even sat in one much less driven it. As for the test drive articles in many magazines the main complaint appears to be the fact that the MKS falls short on horsepower and lacks the firmness at high speeds on closed circuit winding roads. Although it may fall a bit short in horsepower against some of its European and Japanese luxury competitors it has, in most cases, more torque. This fact comes into play when you want to pass on rural roads or enter a freeway. To me this is more significant then pickup from a stop light and although it might lean more at 70mph on winding rural roads you can’t complain about its ride at sensible speeds on all types of roads.</p>
<p>Check out the bang you get for your buck. Compare this fully loaded luxury sedan to the other manufactures comparable models that offer similar space, most cases less features and then compare the price of ownership considering they all run on premium fuel and have higher insurance cost. (Examples of retail prices: MB E350 &#8211; $66,000+, BMW 535i &#8211; $67,000+, Caddy STS V6 &#8211; $56,000+, Infinity M35 &#8211; $56,000+ and the Lexus LS460 &#8211; $70,000+). Next drive them before you make up your mind. You might be surprised at the one you decide to purchase or lease.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ppellico</title>
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		<dc:creator>ppellico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did!
But just like the M Lev in the Lexus, I am really not a music listener.
I wish I had this quality when I was a kid!
My wife fell for this car.
I saw her eyes as soon as she sat in the rear seat!!!
Uh, OH!
Now we need to make the decision and trade offs as no car is everything.

Our list of requirements at price around 35 to 43K:

1) Size.
2) MPG.
3) Reliability.
4) Performance (handling...not speed)
5) FWD (or Great mpg awd, if possible)
6) Luxury.
7) Silence.

So....

Lexus. 42K
2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
Outstanding in silence (best of three) and luxury  and reliability and mpg.

MKS 43K
1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. 
Outstanding in room and both luxury and performance best( of these 3).

Avalon 38K
1, 2, 3, 5, 7.
Outstanding in size, relibility and MPG best of these 3.

Next up, 2009 Acura TL next week when it arrives in showrooms.

Did we do well so far with our evaluations?
Please email at ppellico@aol.com.
I am hoping you can add your personal feelings to these.
Thanks so very much, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I did!<br />
But just like the M Lev in the Lexus, I am really not a music listener.<br />
I wish I had this quality when I was a kid!<br />
My wife fell for this car.<br />
I saw her eyes as soon as she sat in the rear seat!!!<br />
Uh, OH!<br />
Now we need to make the decision and trade offs as no car is everything.</p>
<p>Our list of requirements at price around 35 to 43K:</p>
<p>1) Size.<br />
2) MPG.<br />
3) Reliability.<br />
4) Performance (handling&#8230;not speed)<br />
5) FWD (or Great mpg awd, if possible)<br />
6) Luxury.<br />
7) Silence.</p>
<p>So&#8230;.</p>
<p>Lexus. 42K<br />
2, 3, 4, 5, 6.<br />
Outstanding in silence (best of three) and luxury  and reliability and mpg.</p>
<p>MKS 43K<br />
1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.<br />
Outstanding in room and both luxury and performance best( of these 3).</p>
<p>Avalon 38K<br />
1, 2, 3, 5, 7.<br />
Outstanding in size, relibility and MPG best of these 3.</p>
<p>Next up, 2009 Acura TL next week when it arrives in showrooms.</p>
<p>Did we do well so far with our evaluations?<br />
Please email at <a href="mailto:ppellico@aol.com">ppellico@aol.com</a>.<br />
I am hoping you can add your personal feelings to these.<br />
Thanks so very much, indeed.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Justin Berkowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Berkowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ppellico:

From what you describe it sounds like we are actually in agreement a lot. Only different view is the handling. I didn&#039;t think it was especially tight, but it was fine, good enough for what it is. I agree with you - it&#039;s a very comfortable car. That&#039;s the MKS&#039;s best asset. As a result handling, sportiness etc were not crucial.

Were you able to check out the THX sound system? My goodness it&#039;s great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->@ppellico:</p>
<p>From what you describe it sounds like we are actually in agreement a lot. Only different view is the handling. I didn&#8217;t think it was especially tight, but it was fine, good enough for what it is. I agree with you &#8211; it&#8217;s a very comfortable car. That&#8217;s the MKS&#8217;s best asset. As a result handling, sportiness etc were not crucial.</p>
<p>Were you able to check out the THX sound system? My goodness it&#8217;s great.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ppellico</title>
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		<dc:creator>ppellico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,
Don&#039;t know if you are still seeing replies on this review...
But I test drove it today.
I must say, I am not getting what you say about this car, other than the comfort is very, very good.
Well, maybe your take on the trans is very real. I thought it shifted badly and this bothered me a lot.
I also think the tire noise was a bit high for the cost.

But hell, for road trips, this car was/is all good.
The rear seat was a true living room, couch and all.
I thought it handled very well, much like the Genesis. Cornered really well and the stearing was nice and tight.

Bothered by the 24 hwy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Justin,<br />
Don&#8217;t know if you are still seeing replies on this review&#8230;<br />
But I test drove it today.<br />
I must say, I am not getting what you say about this car, other than the comfort is very, very good.<br />
Well, maybe your take on the trans is very real. I thought it shifted badly and this bothered me a lot.<br />
I also think the tire noise was a bit high for the cost.</p>
<p>But hell, for road trips, this car was/is all good.<br />
The rear seat was a true living room, couch and all.<br />
I thought it handled very well, much like the Genesis. Cornered really well and the stearing was nice and tight.</p>
<p>Bothered by the 24 hwy.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: karmannghia67</title>
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		<dc:creator>karmannghia67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this car. It&#039;s not as geriatric as the Town Car. Did anyone catch Kelly&#039;s take on it? I thought it was too funny.
http://www.kbb.com/kbb/NewsAndReviews/VideoLibrary.aspx?WebAssetId=370324&amp;Path=Videos&amp;SortExpression=0&amp;PageIndex=0&amp;SelectedTabIndex=1&amp;PlaySlideShow=true&amp;Filter=HasVideoReview&amp;SelectedMakeModel=28&amp;SelectionHistory=0%7c27106%7c92606%7c0%7c0%7c</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I like this car. It&#8217;s not as geriatric as the Town Car. Did anyone catch Kelly&#8217;s take on it? I thought it was too funny.<br />
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		<title>By: arturo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-512422</link>
		<dc:creator>arturo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can&#039;t get over the front end.  it&#039;s just so bleeping UGLY.
Actually it&#039;s ugly in 3 dimensions.  I cry for Lincoln.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I just can&#8217;t get over the front end.  it&#8217;s just so bleeping UGLY.<br />
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		<title>By: p00ch</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-489952</link>
		<dc:creator>p00ch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;plee: I suspect that most of these comments are from people who are in their 20’s and 30’s who cannot appreciate how far the domestic products for the most part have come in quality, technology and safety in the last 50 years.&lt;/em&gt;

They&#039;ve definitely come a long way but it&#039;s a case of too little, too late. These days, Toyota can afford to produce vehicles that are merely adequate. GM, Ford and Chrysler can not. The MKS needs to be spectacular in order to revitalize the brand. Being as good as, or slightly better than an ES350 simply doesn&#039;t cut it when you&#039;re in Ford&#039;s shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>plee: I suspect that most of these comments are from people who are in their 20’s and 30’s who cannot appreciate how far the domestic products for the most part have come in quality, technology and safety in the last 50 years.</em></p>
<p>They&#8217;ve definitely come a long way but it&#8217;s a case of too little, too late. These days, Toyota can afford to produce vehicles that are merely adequate. GM, Ford and Chrysler can not. The MKS needs to be spectacular in order to revitalize the brand. Being as good as, or slightly better than an ES350 simply doesn&#8217;t cut it when you&#8217;re in Ford&#8217;s shoes.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-486292</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rear looks like a Daevrolet Nubira...

And I agree with comments above that there&#039;s a lot of uglyfied Jaguar XF in there as well.

And the front end looks bad too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The rear looks like a Daevrolet Nubira&#8230;</p>
<p>And I agree with comments above that there&#8217;s a lot of uglyfied Jaguar XF in there as well.</p>
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		<title>By: msowers1</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-485541</link>
		<dc:creator>msowers1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this Lincoln was based on the Mazda 6 platform as is the Fusion not the Volvo S80 platform

My neighbor just got the Taurus X (freestle) which is based on the XC 90/S80.  I had a chance to drive it last week and found it cumbersome, front heavy with vague steering. 

Also drove an Edge last weekend which is based on the Mazda 6.  I found the handle crisp and competitive with anything in its class.

Seems the Mazda based Ford&#039;s are nice vehicles and the Volvo&#039;s seem from yesteryear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I thought this Lincoln was based on the Mazda 6 platform as is the Fusion not the Volvo S80 platform</p>
<p>My neighbor just got the Taurus X (freestle) which is based on the XC 90/S80.  I had a chance to drive it last week and found it cumbersome, front heavy with vague steering. </p>
<p>Also drove an Edge last weekend which is based on the Mazda 6.  I found the handle crisp and competitive with anything in its class.</p>
<p>Seems the Mazda based Ford&#8217;s are nice vehicles and the Volvo&#8217;s seem from yesteryear<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: picard234</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-485312</link>
		<dc:creator>picard234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;P71_CrownVic: The exact same cluster is in the Fusion, Flexible, Focus, Taurus, Taurus X, Edge, and Escape…just to name a few.

Funny that Ford thinks it’s ok to have the same gauge cluster in a 14,000 compact car as well as a 50K near-luxury car.&lt;/em&gt;


This could be why there is already a minor refresh underway for the 2010 model year(!).  Mulally, apparently, did not think this was OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>P71_CrownVic: The exact same cluster is in the Fusion, Flexible, Focus, Taurus, Taurus X, Edge, and Escape…just to name a few.</p>
<p>Funny that Ford thinks it’s ok to have the same gauge cluster in a 14,000 compact car as well as a 50K near-luxury car.</em></p>
<p>This could be why there is already a minor refresh underway for the 2010 model year(!).  Mulally, apparently, did not think this was OK.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Johnster</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-485102</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, it&#039;s a disappointment.  Considering Lincoln&#039;s recent history how could it not be?  As a replacement for the FWD 1995-2002 Lincoln Continental built on the previous generation Ford Taurus chassis the MKS doesn&#039;t look bad, but it doesn&#039;t look that great either.  The old FWD Continental had a high-output 32-valve version of Ford&#039;s 4.6 liter V-8 and so it seemed like something special at the time.  The Continental was discontinued after 2002 due to low sales.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the same thing happened to the MKS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Sure, it&#8217;s a disappointment.  Considering Lincoln&#8217;s recent history how could it not be?  As a replacement for the FWD 1995-2002 Lincoln Continental built on the previous generation Ford Taurus chassis the MKS doesn&#8217;t look bad, but it doesn&#8217;t look that great either.  The old FWD Continental had a high-output 32-valve version of Ford&#8217;s 4.6 liter V-8 and so it seemed like something special at the time.  The Continental was discontinued after 2002 due to low sales.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the same thing happened to the MKS.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: kevinb120</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-484022</link>
		<dc:creator>kevinb120</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would think that being an &#039;enthusiast&#039; review site, that not only would reviewer&#039;s play around with plastic in the interiors of domestic cars, they would climb underneath psudo-luxury japanese cars and comment on how little steel is underneath a car like an ES.  Ford uses too much steel to a fault, and has to skimp on plastic in the end.  If a Camry still passes a static crash test if they can use a 6mm instead of a 10mm bolt somewhere that&#039;s half the length, you better believe they do it. There is no effort to go with one ounce of steel more then what is needed to satisfy the &#039;crash testing&#039; American consumers judge a car&#039;s safety by.

I guess Lincoln apparently built a highway cruiser(which is where ALL of these cars in the class end up regardless of the commercials, I&#039;ve never gotten into a race with an ES before and rarely see a RL do 0-60 faster then 45 sec if ever) that&#039;s TOO quiet and TOO smooth, go figure.  No comments on rear seat room or ride on a sedan review either? Brakes and steering feel? 5 paragraphs focused on what two sentences could say.  Toyota has also had about 20 reprogram TSB&#039;s for their newest 6-speed auto and still gets complaints, so maybe a flash will fix the trans a bit from a first-off-the-line MKS. We will see what happens when the 380hp TT appears in the fall I guess...

Lots of inaccurate &#039;facts&#039; in the (user)comments section as well, roughly 80% of them.  And I&#039;m not even really a fan of the car in the first place(or any in its class).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->You would think that being an &#8216;enthusiast&#8217; review site, that not only would reviewer&#8217;s play around with plastic in the interiors of domestic cars, they would climb underneath psudo-luxury japanese cars and comment on how little steel is underneath a car like an ES.  Ford uses too much steel to a fault, and has to skimp on plastic in the end.  If a Camry still passes a static crash test if they can use a 6mm instead of a 10mm bolt somewhere that&#8217;s half the length, you better believe they do it. There is no effort to go with one ounce of steel more then what is needed to satisfy the &#8216;crash testing&#8217; American consumers judge a car&#8217;s safety by.</p>
<p>I guess Lincoln apparently built a highway cruiser(which is where ALL of these cars in the class end up regardless of the commercials, I&#8217;ve never gotten into a race with an ES before and rarely see a RL do 0-60 faster then 45 sec if ever) that&#8217;s TOO quiet and TOO smooth, go figure.  No comments on rear seat room or ride on a sedan review either? Brakes and steering feel? 5 paragraphs focused on what two sentences could say.  Toyota has also had about 20 reprogram TSB&#8217;s for their newest 6-speed auto and still gets complaints, so maybe a flash will fix the trans a bit from a first-off-the-line MKS. We will see what happens when the 380hp TT appears in the fall I guess&#8230;</p>
<p>Lots of inaccurate &#8216;facts&#8217; in the (user)comments section as well, roughly 80% of them.  And I&#8217;m not even really a fan of the car in the first place(or any in its class).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: TEXN3</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-483831</link>
		<dc:creator>TEXN3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Z was used because the car was named the Zephyr for 1 model year. I guess they wanted to have some sort of resemblance in the naming.</description>
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		<title>By: 1169hp</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-483811</link>
		<dc:creator>1169hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trk2
I&#039;ve always liked the MkVIII.  I think it was somewhat inovative for the time.  Independent RWD in a sea of wrong-wheel-drive.  Self lowering suspension at highway speeds.  And the first HID headlights (that I can remember)on a domestic car. 

Also, call me a nit-picker, but shouldn&#039;t the MKS be the MKZ and vise versa.  If Lincoln &quot;insists&quot; on using a mish-mash of numbers (that noboby can remember) shouldn&#039;t the &quot;flagship&quot; car have the last letter available.  That would be a Z, not an S.  Instead, the entry level car gets the Z.  

Just seems ass backwords.

DT</description>
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I&#8217;ve always liked the MkVIII.  I think it was somewhat inovative for the time.  Independent RWD in a sea of wrong-wheel-drive.  Self lowering suspension at highway speeds.  And the first HID headlights (that I can remember)on a domestic car. </p>
<p>Also, call me a nit-picker, but shouldn&#8217;t the MKS be the MKZ and vise versa.  If Lincoln &#8220;insists&#8221; on using a mish-mash of numbers (that noboby can remember) shouldn&#8217;t the &#8220;flagship&#8221; car have the last letter available.  That would be a Z, not an S.  Instead, the entry level car gets the Z.  </p>
<p>Just seems ass backwords.</p>
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		<title>By: TEXN3</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-483722</link>
		<dc:creator>TEXN3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@plee: I think you&#039;d find that the B&amp;B here at TTAC are a notch above other sites like autoblog or LLN. But, I do agree with much of your assessment...however, I am in my upper 20&#039;s and do appreciate what Ford has done (not so much GM or ChryCo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->@plee: I think you&#8217;d find that the B&amp;B here at TTAC are a notch above other sites like autoblog or LLN. But, I do agree with much of your assessment&#8230;however, I am in my upper 20&#8217;s and do appreciate what Ford has done (not so much GM or ChryCo).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ceipower</title>
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		<dc:creator>ceipower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Bill Ford would get Ford back on track , but he was only able to talk the talk , not walk the walk.Neither Lincoln or Mercury  offer  anything interesting. Just re-packaged same-old,same old.   They should have kept  improving the town car as they have(had) a lock on that market, amd totally re-vamped the rest of the line up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I thought Bill Ford would get Ford back on track , but he was only able to talk the talk , not walk the walk.Neither Lincoln or Mercury  offer  anything interesting. Just re-packaged same-old,same old.   They should have kept  improving the town car as they have(had) a lock on that market, amd totally re-vamped the rest of the line up.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: plee</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-483471</link>
		<dc:creator>plee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to point out that although entertaining, many of the comments particulary about domestic products like the MKS exhibit a lot of bias against anything designed or produced here in the US. There is almost glee at the current state of the domestic auto industry. I suspect that most of these comments are from people who are in their 20&#039;s and 30&#039;s who cannot appreciate how far the domestic products for the most part have come in quality, technology and safety in the last 50 years. People in their 50&#039;s and up have different priorities for an automobile than someone who is much younger. Their needs and wants in a car are at least as valid as the rest. Different products need to be evaluated as to their suitablity to their targeted market, not through the narrow scope of someone who only cares about 0-60, or a tranmission that stays in gears forever for performance, or that a car has to have 4wheel disc brakes or it is inferior. To much of the buying public, these things are irrelevant. In my opinion, Car and Driver for example has become irrelevant because it views all cars through a very narrow range of acceptablity. Lastly, my view of the MKS is that it appears to be a very competent, attractive car when viewed in the context of the market it it going after and I hope it does well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I would like to point out that although entertaining, many of the comments particulary about domestic products like the MKS exhibit a lot of bias against anything designed or produced here in the US. There is almost glee at the current state of the domestic auto industry. I suspect that most of these comments are from people who are in their 20&#8217;s and 30&#8217;s who cannot appreciate how far the domestic products for the most part have come in quality, technology and safety in the last 50 years. People in their 50&#8217;s and up have different priorities for an automobile than someone who is much younger. Their needs and wants in a car are at least as valid as the rest. Different products need to be evaluated as to their suitablity to their targeted market, not through the narrow scope of someone who only cares about 0-60, or a tranmission that stays in gears forever for performance, or that a car has to have 4wheel disc brakes or it is inferior. To much of the buying public, these things are irrelevant. In my opinion, Car and Driver for example has become irrelevant because it views all cars through a very narrow range of acceptablity. Lastly, my view of the MKS is that it appears to be a very competent, attractive car when viewed in the context of the market it it going after and I hope it does well.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: zenith</title>
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		<dc:creator>zenith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t dis the &#039;70s LTD interior.

I knew the &#039;77 LTD Landau, and this is no &#039;77 LTD Landau! The old car had more-convincing plastichrome and lots of not-half-bad plastiwood.
It was also color-coordinated to the exterior, not funeral-limo black on top, and that awful color down below that always reminds me of vomited baby formula on a &quot;barf rag&quot;.

The heater/AC controls on the old one could be readily distinguished from the radio controls,too.

And steering wheel buttons for more than the horn and cruise will only confuse the old ducks.

And why offer AWD in a car that Granny and Gramps won&#039;t take out of the garage if there&#039;s more than 0.1&quot; of snow on the ground, anyway?
 
I&#039;m totally unconvinced that AWD is worth the premium over FWD, having owned both and seen that the FWD Voyager could climb the same snowy hills as the AWD Caravan and do it without the year-round 3-5 mpg penalty.

AWD does completely eliminate torque steer on slick surfaces, but so does a lighter touch on the accelerator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Please don&#8217;t dis the &#8217;70s LTD interior.</p>
<p>I knew the &#8216;77 LTD Landau, and this is no &#8216;77 LTD Landau! The old car had more-convincing plastichrome and lots of not-half-bad plastiwood.<br />
It was also color-coordinated to the exterior, not funeral-limo black on top, and that awful color down below that always reminds me of vomited baby formula on a &#8220;barf rag&#8221;.</p>
<p>The heater/AC controls on the old one could be readily distinguished from the radio controls,too.</p>
<p>And steering wheel buttons for more than the horn and cruise will only confuse the old ducks.</p>
<p>And why offer AWD in a car that Granny and Gramps won&#8217;t take out of the garage if there&#8217;s more than 0.1&#8243; of snow on the ground, anyway?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m totally unconvinced that AWD is worth the premium over FWD, having owned both and seen that the FWD Voyager could climb the same snowy hills as the AWD Caravan and do it without the year-round 3-5 mpg penalty.</p>
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		<title>By: DearS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DearS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TL, Accord, Maxima, 300C, Avalon, Azera, CTS, and who knows what else will be competing with the MKS. Maybe all of those come first in my book, still probably some market out there for this car. In the end its about how big that market is. This car probably had a small budget, so low risk. So Lincoln will prabably not grow. Lincoln seems more and more like a Ford with nicer interior and ride. Not a bad think, Still I agree its not for keeping up with the competition on capital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->TL, Accord, Maxima, 300C, Avalon, Azera, CTS, and who knows what else will be competing with the MKS. Maybe all of those come first in my book, still probably some market out there for this car. In the end its about how big that market is. This car probably had a small budget, so low risk. So Lincoln will prabably not grow. Lincoln seems more and more like a Ford with nicer interior and ride. Not a bad think, Still I agree its not for keeping up with the competition on capital.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/comment-page-2/#comment-482391</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Blastman:
Things I don’t like about the MKS …
- Gauges too small — look like they belong in a subcompact
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;

That&#039;s because it is Ford&#039;s run of the mill corporate gauge cluster...it just has different stickers for the numbers.

The exact same cluster is in the Fusion, Flexible, Focus, Taurus, Taurus X, Edge, and Escape...just to name a few.

Funny that Ford thinks it&#039;s ok to have the same gauge cluster in a 14,000 compact car as well as a 50K near-luxury car.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>Blastman:<br />
Things I don’t like about the MKS …<br />
- Gauges too small — look like they belong in a subcompact<br />
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<p>That&#8217;s because it is Ford&#8217;s run of the mill corporate gauge cluster&#8230;it just has different stickers for the numbers.</p>
<p>The exact same cluster is in the Fusion, Flexible, Focus, Taurus, Taurus X, Edge, and Escape&#8230;just to name a few.</p>
<p>Funny that Ford thinks it&#8217;s ok to have the same gauge cluster in a 14,000 compact car as well as a 50K near-luxury car.</i><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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