FastLane is CAR

Robert Farago
by Robert Farago

Here it is: the pdf that launches a $25b+ (and the rest) bailout. GM’s FastLane Blog gets out the big guns: a Center for Automotive Research (CAR, geddit?) report that says that millions Americans will be condemned to soup kitchens if the Big 2.8 go belly-up. As always, I invite TTAC’s Best and Brightest to analyze the data– and its reliability– on the community’s (not to mention taxpayers or humanity in general) behalf. It must be some serious shit, because the FastLane folk are downplaying it BIG STYLE (so sue me: I’m an oxymoron): “You see a lot of discussion in the news – and even in the comments of this and other blogs – about the state of the domestic auto industry and what the current economy means for the industry’s future. Some of you have even expressed the belief that this is something GM and the US industry brought on ourselves, and that the domestic industry should be allowed to fail. ‘So what if Detroit goes down,’ the thinking seems to go. ‘It doesn’t affect me.’ However, the reality may very well be that it does affect you.” May? Cowboy-up guys! Anyway, the study reckons that… hang on. Here’s CAR’s background on itself: “To fulfill its mission, CAR maintains strong relationships with industry, government agencies, universities, research institutes, labor organizations, and other major participants in the international automotive community, The Affiliates Program to strengthen those industry ties and build support of ongoing service activities.” Oh, and about CAR’s director David Cole, son of former GM Prez Ed Cole.


“He is also a director of the Original Equipment Suppliers Association, as well as a director of seven automotive supplier companies. In addition, Dr. Cole is a member of the Executive Committee of the Michigan Economic Development Corporation (MEDC) and was recently appointed by Michigan’s Governor to the Strategic Economic Investment and Commercialization Board and the Michigan Renewable Fuels Commission. He was named a co-chair of Detroit Renaissance’s ‘Road to Renaissance’ Project in the fall of 2006. At the University of Michigan he is a member of the Energy Research Council and Mechanical Engineering External Advisory Board. He is also a member of the Denso Foundation Board. Dr. Cole was formerly a director of the Automotive Hall of Fame and a member of the Board of Trustees of Hope College.”

So no conflict of interest there. Bottom line: if the D2.8 go belly-up, it’ll cost $554.5b to $368.8b in lost income, lost tax receipts and increase in “transfer payments.” Where’s my checkbook?

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  • Geotpf Geotpf on Nov 06, 2008

    Let's say Chrysler disappears (Chapter 7, not 11). This is the most likely scenerio, IMHO, assuming no government meddling (like creating American Leyland out of GM and Chrysler combined). Then, there will be a Chrysler-sized hole in the marketplace immediately which will need to be filled. The imports won't be able to fill it all, and even part of the hole they will fill will be filled by American production. The rest will be filled by Ford and GM. Now, there will be a fair number of jobs lost, but the increase in the number of imported vehicles will be minimal. Most jobs lost will not be in production, but in management, engineering, marketing, etc., of the old Chrysler (and salesman and mechanics and whatnot at their dealers). And, most of the jobs lost in production will mostly be due to technology, not imports. That is, an 80-year, inefficient Chrysler plant closes and a brand spanking new Toyota plant opens (in the US), which makes the same number of cars but with half the workers. There will be some increase in imported vehicles (and job losses there), but maybe only a third of the number of vehicles Chrysler made in total. That is, Chrysler going poof will save GM and Ford, at least in the short to medium term, since their sales will both increase significantly. GM and Ford need to throw a boat anchor to a drowning Chrysler, not the imports.

  • Joeaverage Joeaverage on Nov 07, 2008

    never mind...

  • Theflyersfan OK, I'm going to stretch the words "positive change" to the breaking point here, but there might be some positive change going on with the beaver grille here. This picture was at Car and Driver. You'll notice that the grille now dives into a larger lower air intake instead of really standing out in a sea of plastic. In darker colors like this blue, it somewhat conceals the absolute obscene amount of real estate this unneeded monstrosity of a failed styling attempt takes up. The Euro front plate might be hiding some sins as well. You be the judge.
  • Theflyersfan I know given the body style they'll sell dozens, but for those of us who grew up wanting a nice Prelude Si with 4WS but our student budgets said no way, it'd be interesting to see if Honda can persuade GenX-ers to open their wallets for one. Civic Type-R powertrain in a coupe body style? Mild hybrid if they have to? The holy grail will still be if Honda gives the ultimate middle finger towards all things EV and hybrid, hides a few engineers in the basement away from spy cameras and leaks, comes up with a limited run of 9,000 rpm engines and gives us the last gasp of the S2000 once again. A send off to remind us of when once they screamed before everything sounds like a whirring appliance.
  • Jeff Nice concept car. One can only dream.
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