What's Missing From the GM-Chrysler Coverage. Allegedly.

Robert Farago
by Robert Farago

DaveAdmin over at Allpar Weblogs is just as unhappy with the coverage of the potential GM – Chrysler debacle merger as your faithful TTAC correspondents. But for different reasons. Apparently, it’s OK for the mainstream press and armchair analysts to suggest that this is a done deal, but they don’t “get it” when it comes to what might come next. In the main, DaveAdmin reckons they’re all guilty of the sin of omission. “No article I have seen suggests that maybe, because the Dodge trucks are clearly superior (especially in Class 3-5), that GM might shift over to Dodge’s designs. Only one mentioned the Dodge trucks in any way other than ‘to be canned’ at all, and that was to point out the bad timing of their launch. Ford’s big, trucklike Flex, Toyota’s Tundra (with one factory already being converted to other uses), and Ford’s upcoming F-series were apparently examples of good timing. No article I’ve seen mentions the Hemi except disparagingly, as in ‘dummies make V8s when people don’t want them any more.’ (Four years ago.) Never mind that trucks still need V8s and the Hemi is best in class, especially in variable cam form. No article I’ve seen mentions the Phoenix engines or the dual-clutch transmission technology. The latter, to be fair, appears to be dead at the moment, as Chrysler chose to cancel their launch by picking a fight with Getrag and abruptly canceling all talks.” Yeah, to be fair. It gets better…

“No article I’ve seen mentions the possibility that maybe GM would keep the Dodge and Jeep brands alive, and drop Pontiac and/or Buick. I really don’t think the Chinese will care if Buick disappears from the United States, honestly. Nor do Americans still seem to think of Pontiac as the sporty brand, despite the G8, which could live on as the Dodge Charger. Or not.” Hey! That’s our line! Anyway, bravo to DaveAdmin for setting us straight on who’s really calling the tune here. “Cerberus owns Chrysler and it may soon control a large enough chunk of GM to call the shots, even as its spokesmen profess helplessness – or, as they prefer to do, remain silent, and allow pundits to cover the wrong game.” [thanks to .hmmessage P {margin:0px;padding:0px;} body.hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Stingray for the link]

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  • BlueBrat BlueBrat on Oct 21, 2008

    I rented a Dodge truck before to do some hauling of crap, and I'll never do that again. Sorry, but they are just awful vehicles.

  • BigOldChryslers BigOldChryslers on Oct 21, 2008

    I usually avoid the "Dodge trucks are inferior to GM trucks" discussions because I haven't followed reliability ratings for the latest generation of either truck, but I have a '94 Ram 2500 with a Cummins and I'm very happy with it. It's also been very reliable in my opinion. I bought it used in 2001. I don't expect I'll be looking to replace it for another 6 years or more. On the same day I bought my truck, I also test-drove a 1996 Chevy p/u with the 6.5L turbodiesel and was unimpressed. The interior didn't strike me as being any better than the Dodge. The 6.5L diesel doesn't have a good reliability record, and the 1st gen Duramax that replaced it doesn't either. I have rented a newer (2006?) GM pickup for a week once. (My truck was in for bodywork due to a minor accident.) It would be an apples-and-oranges comparison because the rental was gas-powered, 4x4, 1/2 ton, but I was happy to be driving my own truck again at the end of the week. If the new smaller Cummins slated for the 2010 Dodge 1500 is as reliable as the larger Cummins engines are, that will be on my list when it comes time to replace my current truck.

  • Varezhka Maybe the volume was not big enough to really matter anyways, but losing a “passenger car” for a mostly “light truck” line-up should help Subaru with their CAFE numbers too.
  • Varezhka For this category my car of choice would be the CX-50. But between the two cars listed I’d select the RAV4 over CR-V. I’ve always preferred NA over small turbos and for hybrids THS’ longer history shows in its refinement.
  • AZFelix I would suggest a variation on the 'fcuk, marry, kill' game using 'track, buy, lease' with three similar automotive selections.
  • Formula m For the gas versions I like the Honda CRV. Haven’t driven the hybrids yet.
  • SCE to AUX All that lift makes for an easy rollover of your $70k truck.
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