By on September 26, 2008

“If the Lexus feels like it’s being pushed out of the way by a 130-kilogram NFL lineman on his way to get a fresh libation from a scantily clad Budweiser girl, the Nissan feels like said Budweiser girl is his girlfriend and he smacked you, full-force, upside the head with a telephone book because he thinks you’re hitting on her.” The writer here is not Dan Neil or Jeremy Clarkson. And in case you hadn’t figured it out already (and I know you had), the scribe is Canadian. While the rest of David Booth comparo in the National Post doesn’t ascend to greater heights than this excerpt, his summary’s rhetorical hammer hits the proverbial nail on the metaphorical head. “The IS-F is as sporty as Lexus can make it without sacrificing one iota of luxury; the GT-R is as luxurious as Nissan can engineer it without sacrificing even a bit of performance. The IS-F is a slightly softer competitor to BMW’s M3; the GT-R is a stiffer, more committed alternative to Porsche’s 911 Turbo.” Well, that makes it easy to choose. Porsche Turbo please.

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35 Comments on “Quote of the Day: Lexus IS-F vs. Nissan GT-R...”


  • avatar
    Robstar

    I know which one I’d choose if I had to choose one, and it wouldn’t be the lexus…..

  • avatar

    Robstar:

    I know which one I’d choose if I had to choose one, and it wouldn’t be the lexus…..

    I agree. Porsche Turbo all the way.

  • avatar
    psarhjinian

    I know which one I’d choose if I had to choose one, and it wouldn’t be the lexus…..

    I would actually pick the Lexus. No, really.

  • avatar
    netrun

    And I’ll take the one that’s paid for!

  • avatar
    shaker

    I’ll take the one that’s left, even if it’s the one on the right.

  • avatar
    joeaverage

    Doesn’t the title break the 400 word limit?

  • avatar
    Jerome10

    Is it just me or are there others out there for whom the GT-R does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to move my excitement meter.

    Ever since day 1, and even after all the rave reviews and amazing speed and all that jazz, I think I’m less excited about this car than even something like the 335i coupe. I don’t know why, but I just couldn’t care one bit less about the GT-R. I am quite sure I’d rather have about every other car in the class over this thing, despite what I’ve read about it. I’d probably take a base Corvette over the Nissan. There’s just something about it that does nothing for me.

    The IS-F is in the same boat actually. The IS350 is a pretty darn good car, but I’ve driven a few and while they’re fast and seem to handle well, theres something incredibly boring about the car. Its fast without pushing the right sensory buttons or something. I have the feeling the IS-F is a factory riced-out version of this rather fast-but-boring car. Sure its fast, but it looks really stupid and probably (haven’t driven the IS-F…nor the GT-R) has about the same amount of emotional appeal as the IS350. Again, I could think of about a million cars in the class I’d rather have over the IS-F.

    So its funny they are comparing two of what I consider to be the biggest “EH” cars out there.

  • avatar

    joeaverage:

    It’s an 800-word limit for reviews and rants. Blogs and blog titles can go nuts. But don’t. Except when they do.

  • avatar
    Robert Schwartz

    130-kilogram NFL lineman?

    286.6 pound NFL lineman?

    NFL going metric?

    I don’t think so

  • avatar
    mrmcderm

    Jerome10:

    Try getting behind the wheel, then ask yourself if it still doesn’t do anything for you.

    I drove it for 30 mins or so and it’s an absolute monster…and I say this after spending 30 mins each behind the wheel of a 430 Scuderia and Gallardo Superleggera.

    But I’d still take a 997 Turbo over any of them.

  • avatar
    Robstar

    Does anyone actually know where a skyline gt-r is “in stock” ? I’ve never seen one at a dealership or on the road.

    My vote is for the Porsche turbo as well…or a 2-3 year old z06.

  • avatar
    thetopdog

    Robstar :

    I saw a GT-R in the Boston area a few weeks ago, so they’re out there.

    The IS-F is a joke, the styling is horrendous, the interior isn’t that nice, apparently the ride is extremely harsh, and it got beaten around VIR by a Cobalt SS in the latest issue of C&D. It basically does nothing well

    And while I’m against almost everything the GT-R stands for (AWD and a ton of computer aids to make driving ridiculously simple, exotic performance with entry-level luxury coupe looks), it by all indications seems like an amazing car. Without having driven either, I’d have to say I would prefer a GT-R to a 911. I’d also say the GT-R looks better than the goofy, bulbous 911 too

  • avatar
    psarhjinian

    130-kilogram NFL lineman?

    286.6 pound NFL lineman?

    NFL going metric?

    I don’t think so

    Canadian article.

    Might be the CFL.

    CFL is sort of metric.

    CFL is certainly better football.

  • avatar
    CanuckGreg

    Robert Schwartz:

    The NFL isn’t going metric, but as Mr Farago noted, the quoted article is from a Canadian newspaper. And we went metric in the mid 1970’s.

  • avatar
    beken

    130-kilogram CFL lineman?
    286.6 pound NFL lineman?
    NFL going metric?

    I don’t think so

    Yah…it’s Canadian. We get 3 downs to make 10 yards, the field is wider and 10 yards longer and the endzones are longer too. I also think the NFL lineman look bigger than the CFL linemen too, but have never had the pleasure of being hit by either…

    A friend of mine bought a GT-R. Dealer market adjustment was only $17,000.00 CDN (!!!!). When the car arrived, he sold it to a friend who could write it off as a business expense. He decided it wasn’t as he had anticipated. I could never get a comfortable seating position in a Toyota (or Lexus). I’ll go for the Porsche Turbo or M3.

  • avatar

    Porsche please!

  • avatar
    iNeon

    IS-Fh?

  • avatar
    DearS

    That RS4 seems to be in the middle of both, also the CTS-V. I’m glad so many choices are available, Now I wish the chances of winning the lottery were bias towards me.

    btw. Did you know the IS300 and lasts GTRs had Inline-6 engines just like BMWs, and I own a BMW! The E30 was as far as BMW could go without gaining 200-400kg. I’ll take none of the above on principle. Not that my car is better though.

  • avatar
    lzaffuto

    There is one for sale in the showroom of the Nissan dealership off of Barrett Parkway in Marietta Georgia. I’ve also seen one on the road driving down from Alpharetta on Hwy 9. I just hope they don’t need any gas, because there isn’t any for miles!

  • avatar
    psarhjinian

    We get 3 downs to make 10 yards, the field is wider and 10 yards longer and the endzones are longer too. I also think the NFL lineman look bigger than the CFL linemen too, but have never had the pleasure of being hit by either…

    NFL linemen are much bigger. I’m not small (6’8″, 250) and these guys dwarf me. Never been hit by one and don’t want to be, ever.

    CFL football is a better game, I feel. It’s faster, more strategic and more interesting. There’s less delaying than in the NFL, and the three-down system seems to encourage more passing and less rushing for microdistances (followed by the inevitable “walk around for five minutes until the next play is called”).

  • avatar
    whatdoiknow1

    Give me one of each just so I can be different than all of you guys in your M3s and 911 Turbos.

  • avatar
    Mrb00st

    nissan drivetrain and mechanicals in the Lexus body, please!

  • avatar
    Mrb00st

    PS… a very generous GT-R owner in Raleigh gave me and my friend Patrick a ride the other night. Despite cramming my 6’2″ frame in the back seat(!), it was perhaps the most enjoyable/terrifying automotive experience of my life. Acceleration like you wouldn’t believe.

  • avatar
    TRL

    Jerome10 :
    September 26th, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    “Is it just me or are there others out there for whom the GT-R does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to move my excitement meter.”

    Yup, couldn’t agree more. Though it’s performance is great it kind of reminds me of the way I felt about the looks of a Delorean, or even a Briklin for that matter. It just doesn’t look right even though all the right touches seem to be there. The GT-R is just one of those cars I can’t bring myself to want.

    It is easy to see the IS-F is just plain butt ugly from any angle, I can’t quite put my finger on why the GT-R is just as bad other than the obvious face only a mother could love.

  • avatar
    davey49

    Cadillac CTS-V here.

  • avatar
    westhighgoalie

    911 Turbo for me as well. The everyday “except in winter time” Super car.

  • avatar
    John B

    Robstar: “does anyone actually know where a skyline gt-r is “in stock” ? I’ve never seen one at a dealership or on the road.”

    All of the 150 allotted for Canada have been sold with about half delivered so I don’t expect them to hang around dealerships. I expect much the same in the U.S. I went for a good ride in one last week (I’m praying for a chance to drive soon), holy crap is that thing fast. The acceleration g-meter indicated slightly above 0.7 g’s in acceleration on a slightly damp road and no launch control.

    I saw another at Chudleigh’s Apple Farm in Milton last week – two child booster seats in the back.

  • avatar
    Robert Schwartz

    Then why didn’t it say CFL lineman?

  • avatar
    Areitu

    The GTR even looks like that 130kg linebacker.

    I wouldn’t call either of these cars boring by any means, but then again, I don’t drive a…whatever you’re driving that makes these cars come off as unexciting.

    whatdoiknow1 : I’m with you there. One 997 turbo’s MSRP would buy the ISF and GTR, so it’s like a two-fer.

  • avatar
    Robstar

    I’d love to try a porsche turbo or gt-r just to see how it feels.

    I find the acceleration feeling in my STi is vastly different than my motorcycle. I think it has to do with where the pressure is….in a car it’s on your back, and on a bike, on your wrists/hands/feet.

    Anyone else ride both & notice this as well?

  • avatar
    jurisb

    For you it is never going to be a good enough Nissan, for you guys are badge whores. No matter what lap times GT-R sets, it still hasn`t got the feeling. You know what, take yout Porsche on a gravel, wet, or winter track and let`s see how it competes with the nissan. Betcha, even GT-R v_spec isn`t going to be good enough for you. Oh, right Nissan`s leather hasn`t got the right smell of that leather. Actually it is first time in automotive history that I would have heard people complaining and ranting that Nissan has got more hp than official specs. Imagine Joes ranting about Corvette ZR1 that it has got actually nasty700hp not those lovely 623hp. Well, at least nobody`s going to mix GT-r with prev gen Nissan Bluebird, couldn`t say the same about Porsche.

  • avatar
    Patapon

    You people are way too picky.

    I’d take them both.

  • avatar
    Oklahoma Mike

    “Then why didn’t it say CFL lineman?”
    Because although he’s Canadian and speaking to Canadians, he was talking about a NFL lineman rather than a CFL lineman. Not many CFL linemen are that big. NFL linemen are, and that is exactly who he meant. Canadians are familiar with both games and with the size of an NFL lineman.

    But, because he was talking to a Canadian audience he used metric to describe the size. Just as if I had made a similar analogy to a US audience but with a Sumo wrestler I would say “450 pound sumo wrestler” instead of “205 kilo sumo wrestler”. Even if the sumo wrestler keeps track of his own weight in kilograms, the audience I’m addressing would understand pounds.

  • avatar
    John R

    Maybe its a generational thing. Maybe its because of the proliferation of the Boxster. Maybe its because 911s share the same difference that Bimmers have vis a vis porcupines. Or maybe I’m just an anti-establishment kind of guy, but I will take a GT-R over ANY contemporary 911 of any stripe or variation.

    I look at the GT-R I don’t want to jerk off to it, I don’t want to make love to it or feel like its making love to me through my senses. It looks like its made for Defcon 5. That’s what I love about this car. It looks like it WILL break your neck (check Clarkson). It looks like war.

    I look at this thing and I really get the sense that if you cross it, it will do this and break you.

    Its why I will never patronize GM’s Bayformers. They picked the wrong hero car.

    (BTW: Funny thing about Transformers, it’s actually a Japanese invention. Just don’t tell any True-believers that. :) )


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