By on May 7, 2008

0710240021_mn.jpgPistonheads (PH) reveals that the Nissan GT-R that pushed aside Porsche's Nurburgring record is not– as previously reported– a current production car. Nissan's 'ring-er was a modified Japanese GT-R: a better-handling version GT-R that's headed for the U.S. and European markets. Allegedly. More specifically, PH says the record holder had a "number of tweaks that are intended for its European launch… Nissan is understood to be including three harder engine mounts and a stiffer transaxle mount for the US version, resulting in an even finer tuned suspension and powertrain. The European GT-R will be enhanced further with a recalibrated rear diff and slightly revised steering, although this will be signed off in September." Bottom line: it's unclear if the GT-R that lapped the Green Hell in 7:29 is/will be the exact same car that will go on sale… anywhere. Not that TTAC GT-R reviewer Stephan Wilkinson could give a shit.

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13 Comments on “Did Nissan Cheat GT-R for Nurburgring Record?...”


  • avatar
    John R

    Strom in a tea cup.

    Is this of any real consequence? It is huge that a USDM GT-R might lap the ‘Ring in 7:32 instead of 7:29? Is anyone paying for a USDM GT-R really willing to put their $76k automobile through that to find out?

    Besides, I thought it was common knowledge that automakers specifically tune their models to their respective markets.

  • avatar
    carguy

    It’s just like when the original GT-R was released – once it started winning every contest in sight everyone cried foul. It’s fast – get over it.

  • avatar
    Mirko Reinhardt

    @carguy

    I’m just a young guy (born in 1980) so I can’t remember, but what internatonal contests did the original 1969 GT-R win?

  • avatar
    lth

    Tuning for the particular market isn’t that big of a deal. We all know the car is fast and has amazing performance. But in the end you still have to get it serviced in a Nissan dealership (the biggest drawback to the car). Can you imagine the uproar that is going to happen when service techs start wrecking customers GT-Rs on joy-rides, I mean test drives?

  • avatar
    thetopdog

    Although I’m sure few Viper and Corvette owners actually enjoy bringing their cars to Dodge and Chevy dealers, it’s not deal breaker in most cases, and I’m sure Nissan dealerships won’t be causing much of an ‘uproar.’ I’d rather buy a GT-R from a Nissan dealership (assuming they ever stop gouging customers) than have buy the same car (only 300-400lbs heavier and $10,000 more expensive) from Infiniti

  • avatar
    lth

    Although I’m sure few Viper and Corvette owners actually enjoy bringing their cars to Dodge and Chevy dealers, it’s not deal breaker in most cases, and I’m sure Nissan dealerships won’t be causing much of an ‘uproar.’

    I’m sure if I owned a Corvette or a Viper I wouldn’t want to take it to the dealership either. The Nissan dealerships around me just give off a rather shady vibe (not that some of the domestic ones don’t either). I’m sure the dealerships will do their best to make sure none of their techs do something stupid with the car, but it always happens and I’ll feel sorry for the person it happens to.

    I’d rather buy a GT-R from a Nissan dealership (assuming they ever stop gouging customers) than have buy the same car (only 300-400lbs heavier and $10,000 more expensive) from Infiniti

    I agree.

  • avatar
    Busbodger

    Sure wish we had a Nurburgring track here in the US. I’m sure the lawyers would kill it or the cost would be so high that only the rich guys could afford it.

  • avatar
    DetroitIronUAW

    Of course they cheated. Not like everyone else I never bought into properganda from these japanese companies.

  • avatar
    Scaramanga

    Wait, how the hell did they ‘Cheat’ if all they used is the updates that they are going to use in the US version of the car? It seems to me that they achieved those lap times while testing the updates the US will be getting. Its basically the car you’ll be getting off the dealer lot.

  • avatar
    gawdodirt

    “Supposedly” going to get. As the article states, it hasn’t been bought off on yet.

    So it might be the same. But really, who cares? Anything foreign is always better than anything from here, right?

  • avatar
    John R

    @DetroitIronUAW

    LOL, “properganda”. Shine on you crazy diamond…

  • avatar
    Kman

    It might be a huge issue.

    Other than Nissan’s drivers, there is a German mag (can’t recall which) that lapped the GT-R in 7:50… a far cry from supercardom. But this was a while back, and may have been a pre-production model.

    All this to say is, we need third-party confirmation from somewhere. Take a GT-R off the showroom floor, lap it.

  • avatar
    Lavventura

    >>Other than Nissan’s drivers, there is a German mag (can’t recall which) that lapped the GT-R in 7:50… a far cry from supercardom You’re probably talking about the lap Horst von Saurma did on a wet track. Same driver couldn’t do much better in a CSL or GT2 on a dry track. Beyond that, all German magazines are written by the Hitler Youth. Don’t expect a non-german car to get any accolades above their domestic models. Hell, nobodies come close to getting the 7min 42s lap Jan Magnussen in the Z06, or the 7min 32s lap time Walter Röhrl did in the GT2 in their respective vehicles. But then Walter Röhrl was a former WRC driver and Jan Magnussen was a former F1 driver. The GT-R driver is some nobody test driver. Fact is, itts ALL marketing propaganda.


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