By on March 31, 2008

112_0803_03z2009_jaguar_xf_superchargedfront_view.jpgLast week, the Americans sold Jaguar to the Indians. After losing billions on the English marque, Ford finally unloaded their perennial loss maker on Tata Motors. Amidst varying reports on the Indian conglomerate’s plans for the brand, the new XF sedan continues to roll down the assembly line. We’ve already driven the base model of the car that is (for now) Tata’s greatest hope for immediate profit. Now we turn to the Supercharged model. Stateside, acquiring the XF Supercharged requires an extra ten grand (and the rest) above than the base car’s base price. Is it worth it?

Externally, all that separates the “entry level” XF from the Supercharged variant are wheel styles and a boot badge. According to Jag’s Senior Design Manager, that’s because “a customer is buying an XF, rather than an XF in a particular trim level.” (Tell that to the F&I guy.) No question: Jag missed a trick here. Losing the front grill mesh differentiations that once identified the faster (whinier?) cats may please the beancounters and stealth wealth fighter jockeys, but there’s money in them ‘thar body kits.

Anyway, I [still] think the XF’s front end is boring, while the profile and rear are really rather smart indeed.

112_0803_33z2009_jaguar_xf_superchargedcockpit.jpgThe XF Supercharged’s cabin is, like the base XF, the finest interior in any mass-produced car built today. The materials put the mmm in sumptuous, and the fit and finish are fitter than Jill Wagner and more finished than the Mona Lisa. Jag's boffins packed-in loads of the trendy gadgets as standard, from touch screen iPod integration to non-SYNC voice command. In contrast to their German and Japanese competition, Jag’s taken great pains to hide the gizmology until summoned (“Jenkins? Be a good man and bring me my Twisted Sister CD”).    

As with the two other [non-particular] Jaguar XF trims, there are only two options: a heated steering wheel and active cruise control. I wouldn’t buy either, because A) the climate control works B) the XF is still a Jag (why tempt the ghosts of Lord Lucas?) and C) the Jaguar XF Supercharged already has what you (as in I) really need: a supercharger. 

Supercharger? What supercharger? Click the XF’s gimmicky (and yet geekily enjoyable) rotating gear knob into drive, gently ease the gas pedal rugwards and the XF’s Supercharged oozes into gear and proceeds at a suitably magisterial pace. The suspension coddles its inhabitants from real life rigors with brand-faithful grace. The moment curiosity gets the better of you, it’s instantly clear the XF Supercharged should be called the “Jaguar F=ma”.

112_0803_37z2009_jaguar_xf_superchargedengine.jpgFor those unfamiliar with Newtonian physics, that means “Ah Jenkins. It looks as if we’re all about to die.” It must be said: 420hp is a lot of power. It’s enough shove to take the 4200 lbs. XF Supercharged from naught to sixty in five seconds flat. Thanks to 413 ft.-lbs. of twist, there is no effort to speak of; no progressive power build-up or loud exhaust note. The XF Supercharged’s V8 and seamless six-speed simply get on with the business of producing and delivering epic thrust, making a mockery of making a mockery of “lesser” engined sedans.

In fact, the Jaguar F=ma is the automotive equivalent of a young Roger Moore, arched eyebrow and all. Here we have a well-tailored $63k luxury sedan with an apparent predilection for timeless luxury and sedate brandy sniffing (a la Rolls Royce) with an engine that’s always ready, willing and able to get into some sort of no-holds-barred, fight-to-the-death brawl.

There’s no disappointment in handling either. You don’t feel like you’re carrying 2.1 tons of computer-controlled weight into the corners. Like the base XF, the supercharged model is Ali-light on its toes, whisking you around bends with enough neutral attitude and tarmac-clawing grip to satisfy all but the most suicidal driver. Again, the XF Supercharged’s suspension is remarkably un-Germanic in the process, despite 20-inch wheels.

Too many manufacturers think their higher-performance sedans have to imitate track cars, down to rock hard seats, tooth-chipping suspensions, a Cray wedged into the dashboard, carbon fiber and a bad-ass nasty demeanor. The XF Supercharged is another kind of car entirely. It’s a first-tier luxury sedan that just happens to have afterburners in the trunk.

112_0803_02z2009_jaguar_xf_superchargedrear_three_quarter_view.jpgWith everything all-in, the Jaguar XF Supercharged undercuts its competitors’ prices. AND it’s better to look at, better to ride in and better to drive. Will it be a hit for Jaguar? Nope. Like the base XF, the Supercharged version lacks that final measure of visual flair and drama the brand’s American adherents demand. Strangely, the automaker’s designers didn’t roll-up their sleeves for this, the most sporting of Jags. Perhaps tastefully aggressive mods are on their way.

Meanwhile, with Jag’s Indian takeover adding fuel to the pyre, the XF Supercharged is destined for depreciation Hell– and used car Heaven.

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61 Comments on “2009 Jaguar XF Supercharged Review...”


  • avatar
    KatiePuckrik

    Oh yes! Jaguar’s renaissance begins……..

  • avatar

    It will be interesting to see how quickly Tata can turn Jaguar around, and quite ironic if the XF leads the way.

  • avatar

    You should send along this suggestion to Jag’s new masters: enough with all these clicheed Xs dotting cars everywhere.

    Jaguar F=ma

    I’d buy that car, as described by you.

    By the way, The Economist claims Tata is looking at the return of the Jaguar E.
    I used to own that – would buy a modern version at the drop of a coin.*

    *(The usual worries about sensibly priced fuel and proper concern for the environment apply.)

  • avatar
    guyincognito

    Great review! It does sound like Jag hit all the right notes on this one, minus probably the most important. I understand understated elegance but damn, does it have to look like a rental car?

  • avatar
    GS650G

    I think this will be looked back upon as the peak of Jaguar development.

  • avatar
    shaker

    Not to insult Jaguar, but this pinnacle of Force, Mass, Acceleration and Luxury just won’t sell.

    Until it stops looking like a Buick.

  • avatar
    SupaMan

    Its just like you sais Berkowitz:

    “It’s a first-tier luxury sedan that just happens to have afterburners in the trunk.”

    Haaaa….

    I find the XF’s styling a refreshing new look and a nice departure from Jaguar’s usually snobby and old look. I’d take one home.

  • avatar

    “It’s enough shove to take the 4200 lbs. XF Supercharged from naught to sixty in five seconds flat.”
    So think how fantastic it would be in an F type that could weigh 30% less!
    I hope Tata are brave enough to build it…

  • avatar
    hwyhobo

    I always said Buick had the best looking cars on the market. Now, if they could just switch them to RWD and make them handle better, who would need Jaguar.

  • avatar
    Hank

    When I browsed the NY Auto Show last week, this was the one car I really wanted to get a hands on look at, and the only one I couldn’t. Even the back seat was always occupied for the several hours I was there. If that’s an indication of interest (and the comments I overheard that day would say it is) they’ll sell.

  • avatar
    bunkie

    My wife and I looked at and sat in an XF at the NY Auto Show. We both really liked it. Then I mentioned to her that TATA had bought Jaguar from Ford. That did it for her. We both work in IT and have seen the effect of outsourcing first hand. No Jaguar for this couple. It’s too bad. I love English cars, always have.

    I wonder if we’re not the only ones who feel this way.

  • avatar
    NN

    I noticed an overwhelming amount of attention paid to this car at a recent show as well, too. I think it’s a beautiful car…the lines, when studied closely, really are nice. It does not jump out at you, however.

    I wonder if this sale to Tata will be Ford’s Fiat. Ford sells Jag just as they introduce a great car that makes the brand successful again??? Remember GM sold Fiat and took a 2 billion dollar loss just as Fiat was introducing the new Panda, which brought them back from the brink, then the new Punto, which filled their coffers with cash and led to the new 500. Buy high, sell low, eh? What a bunch of idiots. Fiat’s stock went from about $7 per share at GM’s sale to nearly $30 within a couple of years.

  • avatar

    Can’t say I’m as in love with the chassis and interior. In general, the base car felt too big and loose to me. How much more athletic does the Supercharged feel?

    Soft or not, this is clearly a lot of car for the money, with a distinctive character.

    As you note, reliability is always a question mark with Jags. I’m hoping to provide an initial answer in August, but this is going to require that a few dozen owners join TrueDelta’s panel in the next month or so.

    If anyone knows an owner, send them here:

    http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

  • avatar
    frontline

    A few minutes from my home in Maryland , there is a new Jag/ Land Rover dealer that was just built for around 5 Mil. It is no doubt that the XF is a winner but I would be sweating bullets if I were the dealer principal. I don’t have faith in this Tata deal.

  • avatar
    barberoux

    It sounds like a nice car but it costs $63K. In my neck of the woods that is a hell of a lot of money to pay for a car with a very uncertain future. Maybe once Tata builds some kind reputation for building quality and standing behind their products would this car sell. 63K could buy many cars just as nice from manufacturers with more of a track record.

  • avatar
    Steve_S

    So what would cause this to depreciate quickly? Is it just because previous Jag’s have or because it’s now owned by Tata now and it’s future is not clear?

    While I’d probably opt for a BMW if I went into a luxury car I do like the XF and I fit was affordable after a few years that would be interesting.

  • avatar
    doctorv8

    Justin,

    You referenced the “whiny” nature of the Roots supercharger on previous R types. Have they done anything to quell that most un-Jaguar like sound? I don’t mind a Ford Lightning sounding like that, but the blower noise always seemed out of place on a Jag.

    Now that Roots has released their new quieter/more efficient Four Lobe TVS blower, soon to be seen on the ZR1 and CTS-V…there’s no excuse for the technology not to be seen in this car!

  • avatar
    dolo54

    Interesting that Top Gear also mentioned Roger Moore’s arched eyebrow: http://www.topgear.com/drives/B8/XX/roadtests/01/01.html

    Seems like a great car one headlight treatment away from being a huge hit.

  • avatar

    Nice job sneaking in the depreciation factor in the review. Two years from now, this will be a nice ride with a CPO sticker on the window. Too bad it still looks chubby and blocky like a Lexus GS.

  • avatar
    Blunozer

    Call me weird, but I like the idea of the base model and supercharged model looking so similar.

    Since the base model will obviously sell more, those buyers won’t feel like second class Jag owners.

    I personally hate it when carmakers demand an engine upgrade to get the other good stuff. Not everyone needs to do 12 second 1/4 miles.

  • avatar
    USAFMech

    Re: the boring looks.

    I, too, lament the lost looks of the concept cat. But Lexus owns a hell of a reputation from building boring but better Toyotas and millimeter knock-off budget Benzes. This car may very well do very well for Jaguar. I hope.

    Re: reliability.

    Has no one been paying attention? Jag is at/near the top in reliability and initial owner satisfaction. (JD Power)

  • avatar
    blautens

    I’m glad to see Jag make a sedan worth a look. But based on previous models horrible depreciation, I’d *have* to wait this one out a year or three.

  • avatar
    whatdoiknow1

    Ok, so the XF is a nice car but what is truly special about it? What if anything makes it stand out in the crowd?

    Nowadays nice wood and leather can be found in just about any car you can think of with a price over 30 grand. Those feathers that once made a Jag special are no longer a big deal. Just about anyone and everyone that will purchase a $50,000 car is already driving one with nice wood and leather.

    The problem with Jaguar is that it is using a business model that is ignoring the success of other previously LOWER-END brands. As mentioned before the XF is nice but when you park it next to a G35 (a car costing considerably less) it starts to look less and less like it is worth over $50,000. Yes it has the Jaguar name but I think people looking for the “heritage” do expect more than they can get from the up-start Japanese brands.

    Jaguar really and truly hurt itself with that POS X-type. The X-Type was supposed to have been the feeder product for Jag. The product to catch all the young professionals with great credit looking to spend over $30,000 on a entry-level luxury car. Because it failed so badly all of those perspective customers ended up buying 3series, ISs, G35s, A4s, and even TSXs. Hell anyone that was even interested in an X-Type just laughed when the Jag dealer had the nerve to quote a price of $40,000!

    So for all of those people that have enjoyed ownig a G35, IS, 328i, or A4, what does a XF offer me over a M35/45, GS, 5series, or A6?

  • avatar
    BEAT

    Oh no Jaguar and Land Rover will smell like Indian Food. I wish Ford sold the Jaguar to the Japanese or Ferrari.

  • avatar
    theflyersfan

    There’s still a large part of me that likes the styling of the older Jags – the low/long/wide look that made it look like it was set to leap forward. I just can’t get over the front end of this XF. All I see are previous-gen Monte Carlo headlights with a Buick grill.
    I have to agree with previous posters that Jag is really testing the luxury car buyer’s grips on their wallets for shelling out a massive sum of money when there are so many excellent cars out there for the same and some even better for $15,000 fewer bucks. Jag needs to get them into the dealers and have them sit in the car. I also sat in this car at an autoshow (there was actually a decent line to get close) so they need to build on this. I think being bought by Tata will cause a huge amount of harm for this model as issues like warranty support, dealer networks, depreciation, and getting parts down the road could become an issue.

    It’s kind of like the Pontiac G8 – right car, wrong time.

  • avatar
    RobertSD

    It just amazes me. Tata has purchased Jaguar. Ok, got that.

    But all of Jaguar’s operations remain in England. No major descisions on design are made in India. No Jaguar will be produced in India. The execs in charge of the company are all European.

    The only thing Tata brings is cash to fund Jaguar – something Ford no longer wanted to do. Yes, they will get final say in what vehicle programs that move forward, but that’s about it. No one from Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai or Bangalore will be designing, engineering or manufacturing the vehicles for at least the next 5 years – and it’s doubtful they will after that either.

    Tata has always been hands-off with their acquisitions. They will take advantage of economies of scale where possible (they happen to own a British steel company, for example), but the characterization of Jaguar as an Indian company – and implying blindly negative connotations to that characterization – just strikes me as ignorance at best and racism at worst.

  • avatar
    blowfish

    It looks lke rough sailing ahoy of Tata.
    Is also amazing the 2 billion was raised in private equity market ( or whatever the right word). Deja vu is it another case of sub-prime again?

    Some rumour sad Sultan of Brunei didn’t want to a German built RR. Probably this will cost Jag some sales.

    The 2 billion maybe well spent , after ~ 150 yrs of running India to the ground, she rose from ashes and bought to 2 ( has been ) auto jewels of Old Blighty.

    I would have more faith in Jaguar turning around should the car be built in India, reason is they take pride in dong it, plus labour are much cheaper.
    Even build some Jags from the 50′s & 60′s.
    Thats what a lot of after market folks dong n England now, they took the old 3.4, 3.8 and put modern day V8 runnign gear. Got rid of Lord Lucas the Prinz of Darkness.

    Wonder if British cars had Bosch as electrics, u thnk they’ll stll be runnng around as many as Vee Dubs?

  • avatar
    blowfish

    The only thing Tata brings is cash to fund Jaguar
    Tata has always been hands-off with their acquisitions.

    So knd of blind leadng the blind, without new Captain at the helm, how on earth the good ship Jaguar will be not sailing nto a sea of Ice berg?

    Is not like growng a plant, watering her every day will make her grow, ther’re lots of things to keep track on.

  • avatar

    I’m a sucker for the value proposition which is presented by so many great cars these days. Most luxury cars, starting with the $35k German and now Japanese cars and going up from there, are lost on me. I’d take a WRX or Evo over any price-competitive vehicles from Germany or Japan. I’m getting to a point where I’m older, earning real money, and should be in the crosshairs of BMW, Lexus, Infiniti, MB and Audi. But I’m still just not there yet.

    However, the C-XF turned me on. That’s a car to whom I would say, “To hell with it all, I have to have that car,” because it looked so irrationally good that I couldn’t go a day without being smitten by the mere sight of it. That is usually confined to the few Italians we get stateside, and the occasional German (the new M3 and of course the R8). Lose the front end, lose my lust. The other angles look very, very good, and if the front had been kept, nagging rationalities like cost, reliability, fuel economy, reliability, resale value, reliability, interior durability, reliability, and repair costs could have been buried deeply in my mind with a dismissive hand wave accompanied by “It IS a Jeg-yew-ahhhhhh.”

  • avatar

    Has no one been paying attention? Jag is at/near the top in reliability and initial owner satisfaction. (JD Power)

    Maybe it’s the “perception gap” caused by years of making unreliable cars. I know the Ford acquisition helped a lot in this regard…but it wasn’t exactly during Ford’s most reliable years that the ownership began.

  • avatar
    BEAT

    By the way, How can We be sure that Jaguars will not be made in India?

    Remember this Global Economy is changing dramatically. From the low rate of the almighty dollar and the increasing value of the Euro against the dollar. The War in Iraq and the Sub prime mortgage crisis that is happening all over the United States etc etc.

    Yes it is India but did you notice that ALL freakin products are “almost” all made in China.
    If China can do it how come India Can’t?

    Do you think Tata will not give a damn about there new product line which the Land Rover and Jaguar. Yes let those damn executive decide 1/2 way around the world for Tata.

  • avatar
    bunkie

    A car is an awfully big purchase. One commits to a lot of dollars flowing to the manufacturer. In the case of the XF, it’s over $50K. As a Ford product, I know that some of those dollars are flowing to the parent company (which is not in the IT consulting business). As a TATA product, I’m funding my competition. Call it racist if you like, but I don’t see it that way. It’s a matter of long-term preservation.

  • avatar
    hwyhobo

    RobertSD wrote:
    ignorance at best and racism at worst.

    You’re that close to springing the Goodwin’s law trapdoor.

  • avatar
    ZCline

    I JUST saw one of these cruising through downtown Portland, OR of all places. I don’t think it was the supercharged, and based on the early description, I’m not sure if I’d be able to tell. Anyway, from the front, it looks like a Buick, thats what I thought it was. From the rear, much improved, and the sounds were restrained yet powerful. The interior looks great, from the pictures, so I’d say Jag has a winner … If they can get people into the show rooms, and look past the Indian owners …

  • avatar

    The front end reminds me of a Buick Lucerne.

  • avatar
    Qusus

    First of all, it’s Godwin’s Law.

    Second of all, RobertSD’s comment came nothing to close to any such thing. He’s dead-on, some of these comments on TTAC about Jaguar being bought are just downright dumb. Jaguar got bought by an Indian company thus, their cars are gonna smell like Indian food and be trashy… now they’ve lost all their brand prestige… etc etc who wants to buy a luxury car from INDIANS?! Goodness, I’ll not spend 50K on a car made by the unwashed masses! What a load of junk. Who cares what the nationality of the parent company is as long as they stick to the brand values and just keep makin’ good cars. Sheesh.

    Sometimes I just think some of the readers on this blog must be absolute dinosaurs. It’s 2008 guys, everythings gone global, the Red Sox just had opening day in freakin’ Japan (can you believe it?! And after what they did to us in Pearl Harbor!) and the archaic notions of sterotyping a car based on the nationality of it’s parent company downright dumb.

    Oh and great review. Man I really wanna drive one.

  • avatar
    spike

    Qusus – you speak the truth. This is a global world we live in. It’s clear some people aren’t up to speed on that fact.

  • avatar
    Thinx

    I agree that most of the Tata-bashing comments are barely disguised xenophobia.

    Tata’s are not just an IT company – in fact, that is one of their more recent ventures. They are, in fact, and older and better-run company than Jaguar itself.

    And most Indian guys I have worked with have been certifiable car-nuts – and I mean that in a good way. If Tata can harness that passion, I think they will do very well with Jaguar.

  • avatar
    Kman

    Well, well, well. This sounds promising for Jaguar (and Tata).

    I find the XF’s aesthetics to be gorgeous…. except for that misguided large headlight that sticks pas the natural lines of the headlight assembly. It strikes me as a clear case of a “designed-by-committee” part of the car.

    I.e., after (a) creative mind(s) came up with the overall design, someone in a conference room during some meeting said: “yes, but we need a tie in to the Jaguar design heritage. It’s always been Jag to have a Big light and a small light. Do something about that.”

    And then a doesn’t-belong-there light was grafted on.

    All this being said, I saw the interior of the XF at an auto show, and wooooooooooeeee! It was impressive.

    Seriously, we will be refering to the Jag’s interior instead of Audi as the benchmark, a few years from now.

  • avatar
    shaker

    I’ve often wondered how a “car culture” could have evolved in a country where cars are impractical due to congestion, lack of infrastructure and sacred ruminants blocking the way.

  • avatar
    theflyersfan

    shaker – good post (and I don’t want to take this too far off topic.)
    For those who have driven or been strapped into an .05/km cab in Africa and South Asia knows exactly what this means! Actually, anyone who has watched three minutes of “The Amazing Race” while they are racing in India knows what this is about.
    During my days in Cote d’Ivoire, I shared the crumbling, pot-holed quasi-freeways with brand-new European imports in great condition, green and orange Corolla taxis spewing black smoke since kerosene is a lot cheaper than the leaded gasoline for sale…and these taxis were death traps, the infamous minibus, animals, carts being pulled by human or animal, people crossing the freeway (as a dent on my driver side door can attest to) and scooters and bicycles. There was actually little room for cars! If there were three southbound lanes into Plateau, there would be a makeshift six lanes since the dirt on the shoulders was used.
    …and they want more cars. Each day, huge cargo ships arrived with used and abused taxis from Japan, Korea, Singapore and other Asian countries – they couldn’t pass inspection there so they dumped them in Africa. Before the country fell apart in the early part of the decade, there was some serious money and I saw brand new Mercedes M-class diesels, Land Rovers everywhere, and even a couple of Lexus models that were South African imports given the stickers and the steering wheel location.
    Now multiply the Ivory Coast’s population and economy by a factor that I can’t compute and that’s the upcoming purchasing power of India. The purchase of Jaguar has to be seen as a major triumph especially if they build the Jags in India and can sell them easier to the local population.
    What’s scary is in places like Delhi, Chennai and other large cities in India is that their streets are already so clogged and the air is so poor that to those on the outside (and I stress that part) people wonder how they can keep buying cars when cars appear to be destroying their quality of life. The Indians (and Chinese) probably see them as freedom and a major status symbol and when your choices to populate your garage in your new home on the outskirts of New Delhi, do you want an expensive but small Japanese or Korean import, a shoddy built local model, or a brand new Jaguar?
    Crash test – Jaguar XF vs cow in the middle of the road. Please post on YouTube!

  • avatar
    Gottleib

    The only thing wrong with this car is that it is missing the sculpted jaguar on the hood.

  • avatar
    jerseydevil

    I’ve seen it. Its beautiful. I have lamented the lack of sexy cars these days, this is one. Its has real presence. I like it.

    Now if we could get a few more sexy cars in the price range I can afford! i.e., less than this.

    also – whats this about the tata cars wil smell like indian food? thats harsh.

    do they now smell like fish and chips? whats up with that? The last time i was in a jag it smelled like leather.

  • avatar
    BEAT

    It is not racism it is JUST being sarcastic.
    It is just saying why did the chinese made a poisonous dog food that almost killed all pets in the United States and painted toys with lead paint.

    If we criticize American cars for being so lousy
    but in fact we are really destroying the American car companies and the US Economy.

    A car the smells Indian doesn’t really necessarily
    a racist comment.

    If the KKK can march the streets of America and shout racist slur to the colored people while cops pick their nose in front of those Klan without arresting them and an Obama preacher who just mentioned some slur and branded a racist for saying those words.

    Hypocrisy is the right word to say.

    Red Sox!!! that club is more racist than what history told us.

  • avatar
    jerseydevil

    BEAT :

    A car the smells Indian doesn’t really necessarily
    a racist comment.

    Yes. it is.

  • avatar
    Qusus

    If the comment about Indian food was meant as a joke it’s not that big of a deal (though some people might be seriously offended by it, and understandably so). I don’t want to accuse people of racism willy-nilly; it’s a serious accusation after all.

    My comments regarding xenophobia etc were meant for previous posts on this site about the Tata Jaguar sale, not neccessarily in this article (though there are few).

    The KKK can march in the streets in America because of freedom of speech and assembly. Not because they aren’t racists.

    And yeah, the Red Sox were a pretty racist club for a long time. But the old management is long gone and that’s water under the bridge now.

  • avatar
    bill h.

    Personally, I think it would be a great experiment, a car interior smelling like a lamb curry, a tandoori oven or some palak paneer. Optionally, you could dial up the intensity to full Vindaloo fire levels. After all, these days who says that ISN’T the predominant fragrance of much of the UK?

    Besides, it might be less noxious to our lungs than some of those outgassing polymers that smear up the insides of car windows for months at a time.

  • avatar
    Steyr

    Someone help me out here; I sat in this car at the NY auto show, as some others have, and although the interior was indeed extremely well-done, it was also very, very small. I’m not a big guy (5’9”, 160.)

    I felt infintely more comfortable sitting in Volvo’s S80 V8 at the same show. Wasn’t even a close comparison, and the interior finish was 9/10′s as nice as the Jag’s was. Plus you’re paying 10-15K less. So what makes this one worth buying, again?

  • avatar
    plugot

    I saw the standard XF at the LA auto show last November and thought it was stunning. I don’t believe that most pictures I’ve seen have done it justice. Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder (with some exceptions like the Pontiac Aztec and all Hummers) but this car’s poise, stance, and subtle, even polished, aggressiveness is a clear departure from the well aged XJ sedans.
    I’ve now seen a couple XFs on the streets of LA and I realize that the choice of exterior color makes a huge difference. I nearly mistook a white XF for a Nissan Stanza, but one in black made me do a double take. If Tata can somehow convince really rich Americans that Jaguar is still terribly British, and not a redressed Lincoln, then I think the XF will turn out to a profitable car for the big Cat.

  • avatar
    Shinrah

    I have been reading car reviews since I learned how to read and must say that you guys write the most entertaining reviews bar none. Kudos!

  • avatar

    This actually works well. Anyone who has seen “steam trains in india” will see that the railroad the brits built in india has been lovingly cared for, to the extent that it is as built.

    Giving Jag to India assures that the spirit of Jag will be in caring hands. Better still is that India has figured out current technology, so there’s a shot that Jag could annoy Lexus.

  • avatar
    Thinx

    speedlaw :
    Anyone who has seen “steam trains in india” will see that the railroad the brits built in india has been lovingly cared for, to the extent that it is as built.

    You are kidding, right? The “Steam trains” show was about nicely-restored vintage trains in railway museums and novelty railroads. The actual, working railways uses mostly modern diesel and electric locomotives (some made by Tata, actually) and quite unlike the stuff that “the brits built”. The Indian Railway company (state owned) is one of the largest organizations in the world – I don’t have the numbers on hand, but their freight and passenger volumes were mind-boggling.

  • avatar
    Eric in PA

    I have an Ebony/Spice supercharged.

    1. Gorgeous front and back although the front could be more interesting. You really have to see it on the street to appreciate it. The lighter colors do not look nearly as good.

    2. superb interior.

    3. Fabulous suspension. So nice that my wife does not complain around town on pretty bad roads. Front-end heavy so it will understeer on very tight, hard turns (I slid out quite a bit toward a rock wall – it is a luxury sedan, not a Lotus Elise).

    4. All the gimmicky electronics seem to work perfectly and are pretty unobtrusive.

    5. Stereo is to die for. Best I have ever heard in a car. Actually, best I have ever heard ever. The stereo alone is reason enough to get one.

    6. 12.8 mpg in highly aggressive city driving. Ce la vie.

    7. Going 80 mph around a highway cloverleaf with stereo screaming and the interior glistening I am one happy camper and do not give a damn who owns the company.

  • avatar
    Laureate2

    I’m convinced the world has ADD. I thought the topic at hand was the Jaguar XF not Macro-Economics, Indian sub-culture, or American labor woes. Anyhow. I waited my turn to sit in the XF at the local autoshow. I exited the car convinced that it would hit the market at 80K. Imagine my shock when I found out the Supercharged was going for the low 60′s. I hightailed it to the nearest dealer…test drove it. It handles like a dream, and rockets down the road. No one can dispute it is better equipped then everything in its class, and it’s interior is also second to none. I love the exterior…especially the front. Yes I said it…the chrome grille, hood bulges, chrome accents. I was one of those who thought the back looked to Lexus like…but apparently most folks see Aston there. After a while, the back has grown on me…like the Beamer did when the new 7 boot first appeared. Of course, every car has draw backs. MB (I’ve had two) can lack soul, BMW can lack luxury(my wife has one.) Looks are subjective, and nobody is perfect…except maybe the XK. At any rate, drive it then write. I did..and bought it. PS As for TATA…look at the company…they make TONS of money…and they will again thanks to the XF… Cheers

  • avatar
    Kman

    Had my first sighting today. While I’d seen one in an auto-show, finally saw one on the road today, parked. It was black, with a dark-brick interior.

    Let me simply say this:

    1. Cease immediately looking at pictures of the XF
    and
    2. Run, don’t walk, to the nearest Jaguar dealership to see it in the metal, in the sun, in a dark color.

    It is wildly gorgeous. No sedan before had gotten me to react so strongly to its design. Last time I was so disarmed by a vehicle’s design was on my first sighting of an Enzo.

    This sedan is bloody gorgeous. Congratulations Tata (and now I think thanks are in order for saving this brand to allow the XF to grace our roads and embellish our environment.

  • avatar
    Eric in PA

    21.8 mpg @ 73 mph on somewhat hilly highway.

    The critical issue remains what you would get instead for a $63k sticker price.

    I would love for all of the folks who are so critical of the XF to share their thoughts on that.

  • avatar
    Seth

    Most folks (including me to be honest) are having trouble wrapping their minds around changes that have taken place over last few decades in Global economy.

    Forbes says that top few billionaires from India have net worth of over 400 billion USD.

    Tata’s son seems to be Cornell educated guy who knows a thing or two about fine automobiles. I wouldnt worry too much.

    Jaguar’s ownership is a moot point. Even their new owners probably dont think too much about it. After reading a bit about em, I realized that Jag/LR are at the bottom end of their acquisitions.

  • avatar
    ohnonothimagain

    Wow-I know that the nay-sayers will tear the XF apart, but I think that Tata will sell every one that’s made. It has interesting styling(to me ar least), and if the quality is decent then it should be a good direction for the Jaguar. I can’t quite get past the fact that it’s no longer a British marque, buy hey that might be a better thing in the long run. British cars were always notorious for quality issues and longevity. I had a 1975 MG Midget and when the engine blew up the first time I took a long trip(some hoses were improperly routed)with only 2000 miles on the car; but it was so much fun while it lasted.

  • avatar
    paulgreen

    The supercharged XF sold itself when I saw if for the first time. Unfortunately, it might sell itself again if Jaguar doesn’t address the steering vibration. For a still undetermined reason my XF shakes.

    It is most noticeable (and visible) in the steering wheel, but can also be felt in my seat as well. My dealer has tried everything they know how to do and it still shakes.

    Jaguar engineers say it’s a high performance car and vibration is to be expected. I say if they’re betting Jaguar’s future on this car, they might want rethink their position.

    Regrettably, despite its promising appearance it’s not a car I’d recommend until they get the first year bugs worked out.

  • avatar
    Chubb

    As a recent buyer of the XF Supercharged (1 week), I would agree with this review almost entirely. If you have ANY interest in this car, you must drive it. This thing is a dream…and dang fast!

  • avatar
    jamesjr46998

    paulgreen-

    My guess would be that you got yourself a lemon, considering I’ve never heard of an issue with steering vibration from the many, many reviews I’ve read on the XF. Maybe you can get your XF declared a lemon and force Jaguar to give you a new one?

    Go here to see if your XF fits the description of a lemon: http://www.carlemon.com/


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