By on March 17, 2008

x08pn_g6007.jpgSpring: the season of love, flowers and convertibles. As warmer weather approaches, car dealers put away the 4×4 SUV’s and pull the drop-tops from the back of the lots in the hopes of snagging passersby wanting a vehicle to celebrate the (global?) warming weather. Pontiac tempts buyers with the G6 GT Hardtop Convertible while Chrysler lures in the public with the newly-introduced Sebring Limited Hardtop Convertible. As the only American-branded four-passenger hardtop convertibles, which one truly deserves your hard-earned income? Or should both be tossed into the bonfire of the vanities?

The Pontiac instantly seduces you with a restrained and handsome profile– terminating in a rear end stolen from the Toyota Solara. In midnight black, the gargantuan panel gaps disappear to present a nicely- integrated whole, set off by similarly restrained 18 inch wheels. The G6 looks like a svelte coupe with the top up, and a boulevard cruiser with it down. Dalmatians of the world rejoice! GM left the Cruella De Vil grill intakes from the G6 GXP off the convertible.

ch008_032se.jpgWhile the Pontiac might pass as a little black dress, the Chrysler looks like a prom gown from the 1980’s, complete with poofed sleeves. Design cues from around the world are presented in a discombobulated package, attempting to look refined. The American hood strakes and chrome grill start the mess, European crease lines and rub strips make up the middle, and last decade’s Japanese tail lamps wrap up the rear.

The Sebring looks best when topless. Yet no one would ever call the Sebring handsome. The omnipresent rental-car beige (Chrysler offers three shades) and black paint subdue the “we will try anything and everything” style to almost inoffensive levels. Almost.

The excitement the Pontiac presents outside only makes your jaw drop harder when gazing upon the acres and acres of cheap black plastic slathered throughout the interior. The G6’s interior is like that popular girl in high school who shows up at the reunion ten years later, a complete throwback to the past with a lot more jiggly bits and a reminder that some things from previous decades should be consigned to the scrap heap of history.

0501_4452006_pontiac_g6_coupe_and_convertibleinterior_view_steering_wheel.jpgNot only do the plastics disappoint, Pontiac also completely screwed up the ergonomics. Want to change tracks on the CD player? You reach for the skip button only to accidentally increase the volume, and then cut your finger on the sharp-edged chrome trim around the knob. Tiny buttons abound, from the stereo to the cruise control to the convertible top switch. All are cheap and insubstantial feeling. The only relief from the oppressive blackness of the instrument panel: the chrome rings tossed around the cabin in sufficient quantity to leave you with suspicions of Ringling Brothers Circus sponsorship.

Chrysler barely edges out the Pontiac in the better-looking cheap plastics contest. Avoiding Pontiac’s “black hole of despair” theme, Chrysler offers a pleasant palette for a light airy feel. Yes, but– the polymers are harder to the touch than Barack Obama’s rhetoric; shiny in some places, dull in others. The Sebring’s tortoiseshell veneers are a laudable attempt to do something different, but the execution makes it look as if sunglasses melted on the dashboard.

ch008_067se.jpgAt least Chrysler spent more than ten minutes working out the ergonomic details. The LCD stereo display is aesthetically pleasing and ergonomically sound, especially when accessing the MyGig system. The upmarket-looking climate control dials click reassuringly; another bright spot on a barely passing grade. The seats on the Chrysler are as springy as Grandma’s couch, a completely opposite feel to the Pontiac’s grippy and more comfortable Recaro-esque buckets.

Both manufacturers claim to provide luxury for four, but first class on a Greyhound bus is still first class on a Greyhound bus. Both cars claim top operation only takes 30 seconds. Pontiac guessed right, Chrysler got it wrong by a lot.

x07ar_pn003.jpgThe Pontiac’s top lurches into the trunk (and takes up ALL the space) with a bit of hesitation while providing a “will this work in three years?” origami display of engineering. The Chrysler takes nearly 45 seconds of whining. When the trunk lid pops to swallow the top, the entire car shakes like a pole dancer, wobbles a bit and then clunks alarmingly when sealing shut. I wouldn’t keep the Sebring past the standard warranty period based solely on the scary top operation.

At least you still get some accessible storage when the Chrysler goes topless (enough for two golf bags).  You might be able to store a pizza in the Pontiac’s 2.2 cubic feet, but you have to raise the top to get to it.

ch008_009se.jpgOnce the finicky tops are lowered, you’re all set to blast down Highway 190 into the sunset-drenched Sierra Nevadas and let your cares blow away in the wind… or not.

The Pontiac G6 GT Convertible wouldn’t know the word “blast” if it was shot in the face by a Howitzer. With either the standard 3.5-liter VVT pushrod V6 (217bhp), or the 3.9-liter 222bhp V6 (again with ancient pushrods), forward progress requires that you squeeze the throttle about three inches until you meet some resistance. At which point the engine pops a Valium, gives you a dirty look and groans up the rpm band.

The older-than-Bob-Lutz engine designs might actually have shown some pep were they not coupled to an incredibly lousy four-speed automatic transmission. The tranny either bogs the engine down or kicks down into noise-making gear. Neither situation is conducive to either sporty or relaxing driving. You are always trying to out guess the slushbox.

x08pn_g6008.jpgSlip the lever into “manual” mode and it gets even worse. The experience proves irritating to the point where you want to rip the gear lever out of its cheap plastic housing and proceed to beat the rest of the car with it (which I wouldn’t advise, considering the poor build quality). GM offers a good six-speed automatic on other G6’s, so why not here?

After the G6, the drive train in the Chrysler Sebring Limited Hardtop Convertible seems like a breath of fresh air. The Sebring’s 3.5-liter SOHC V6 (with a G6-bettering 235bhp) is equipped with a six-speed automatic as standard. The engine and transmission work together smoothly to launch the Sebring quickly and semi-serenely. The tranny always keeps the power band on the boil while never letting it get raucous. It’s perfect for a cruiser convertible.

ch008_035se.jpgThe downside: a non-existent exhaust note. In place of a V6 growl, you get to hear a bit of cooling fan roar and the fuel pump. As interesting as I find it to listen to an electric motor whir its little heart out, it’s not nearly as blissful as the mechanical symphony found on most drop-tops.

After putting in your earplugs to silence both the G6’s heavy metal and the Sebring’s electronic disco, you find both cars want to sit on the side of the dance floor and pretend they know the proper steps. The Sebring offends the least with a stable and smooth-riding platform that provides rental-car-friendly safe handling. Understeer only becomes annoying should you want to go faster than the legal speed limit. The standard stabilizer bars front and rear keep the body roll to less-than-yacht-like conditions and the standard suspension dampers keep the vertical bouncy motions to a minimum.

Drive it like you retired in it, and the Sebring manages to create a sedate and somewhat relaxing experience; it demands nothing from the driver who has all the time in the world. Top down or up, body quiver is never an issue, although small wiggles find their way through the rack-and-pinion steering. One weird gripe: at cruising speed, the wind buffets the sun visors, creating a boring gray flutter in your line of vision. Epileptics should not purchase this vehicle.

x08pn_g6010.jpgAt the first turn of the G6’s wheel, you might as well stop turning. Typical of all G6’s, understeer reigns with a tyrannical vengeance. Vague steering and precious little feedback degrade the experience to the point where the G6 GT becomes almost dangerous to drive in any conditions other than a straight line. The harder you press the car (provided you could stand the transmission), the less fun it provides. When the 18-inch tires finally start to grip, the chassis slides slightly in its bushings, creating a strange plywood-on-springs sensation.

Keeping the G6 on the straight and level reveals the Pontiac engineers were listening to Chubby Checker belt out “The Twist.” A 1986 SAAB 900 convertible has less cowl shake. On the rough Oklahoma interstates, the Pontiac shook so badly I started to get motion sickness– and I fly for a living! I could only listen to the top secured in the trunk crack in protest. I give the standard glass rear window about two-and-a-half years before it needs replacing.

ch008_040se.jpgDriving both cars back-to-back reveals one clear “winner:” the Chrysler Sebring Limited. It may have awkward aesthetics, but its decent drivetrain and nicer interior make the Pontiac G6 GT look like the classic dumb blond: all looks with absolutely no substance to back it up. If offered a Sebring drop top as a rental car, I wouldn’t turn it down. 

I know: that’s not exactly what you’d call high praise. Compared to the competition– ANY competition– both cars are losers. If it was my hard-earned $30Kish, I’d spend it on a Mustang GT Convertible, VW EOS, SAAB 9-3, Mazda MX-5 or ANYTHING else. Hell, I might even spend it on nothing. And the fact that the G6 and Sebring’s manufacturers have put these underdeveloped cars on the market brings glory to neither.

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69 Comments on “2008 Pontiac G6 GT Hardtop Covertible vs. 2008 Chrysler Sebring Limited Hardtop Convertible...”


  • avatar
    Steven Lang

    Ouch!!!

  • avatar

    A shame they got the exterior styling so right with the G6, and fell so short on just about everything else. Though I found the 3.9 (with 18s) more pleasant to drive than you did, the quality of the interior would be a deal killer. The sheer rear plastic sidewalls and the bits atop the stored top are especially awful.

    That Pontiac isn’t offering the 3.6 or the sport suspension in this car is an admission that structural rigidity isn’t where it needs to be.

  • avatar
    carguy

    Isn’t the Cadillac XLR also an American branded hard top convertible?

  • avatar

    carguy :
    Isn’t the Cadillac XLR also an American branded hard top convertible?

    True. It’s sells so poorly we forgot about it. I’ll amend the text accordingly.

  • avatar
    Bancho

    “The Pontiac G6 GT Convertible wouldn’t know the word “blast” if it was shot in the face by a Howitzer.”

    You guys are poets. No wonder I can’t stay away from here!

  • avatar
    AKM

    Wow. I don’t know where to start.

    1st TTAC comparo test: Yaaaaaaay! Thanks guys. Since C&D and R&T basically stopped being relevant, I’ve missed reading real comparos.

    Too bad it’s about those horrible vehicles. Good review, even though I find the G6 almost as ugly as the Sebring, with its squinty headlights, short wheelbase, and stupid back.

    I’m not into convertible, but all the choices you present are so much better. That said, I imagine incentives on those 2 cars are big enough to make a Bear Stern share look expensive.

  • avatar
    Bancho

    It’s a good review since it helps you decide which one you’ll want to rent when you go on vacation to Orlando and want a convertible…

  • avatar
    starlightmica

    I would think that the rental companies would opt to save money and get the Sebring softtop, but doubt that would review any better, and possibly worse, than the hardtop.

    Double one-stars,then?

  • avatar

    starlightmica,

    Believe it or not, the soft-top and hard-top Sebrings are the same price. Both Limiteds were $37K.

    And the Pontiac got 1-star, the Sebring, 2

  • avatar
    Justin Berkowitz

    @Mike Solowiow:

    Did you say $37k as in thirty seven thousand dollars? If so, the Sebring gets 0 stars from me. It’s overpriced by $10,000. What a joke.

  • avatar
    SupaMan

    Amazing. I’m supposed to go on vacation to the Keys and I’m Hell Bent on not renting a Sebring convertible. Looks like I’ll have to call either Hertz or Avis and shore up the money for one of their Cool/Fun convertibles. Good review though, the Sebring’s styling is garish and completely unattractive while you hit the nail on the head about the G6 convertible: nice to look at but lacking in substance. I love this website!!

  • avatar
    Larry P2

    From just about any standpoint, four-seat convertibles tend to be perfectly awful cars. The basic two-seat British Roadster idea was the correct one, and in every way too, for some odd engineering or emotional tick.

    Why would anybody truly want to live with a four seat convertible on a day to day basis? If they are pistonheads and really love cars but also like convertibles, it would seem axiomatic that the choice of the roadster would prevail.

    Four seat convertibles exact a tremendous toll on weight, handling, acceleration, simplicity, and driveability over their coup brethren. Whereas roadster’s drop tops are mandato

  • avatar
    Brendon from Canada

    @Larry P2 – while I’d agree with you in most cases, I’d have to say that BMW has done a decent job with a 4 seat convertible in the 3 series variant. Sure, they suffer in performance compared to their coupe/sedan siblings, however they still feel much better then most vehicles.

    (no, I don’t own one, yes I have driven many, and yes I do have a coupe variant!)

  • avatar
    Lumbergh21

    $37K! No kidding it isn’t the best choice in a drop top. I’ll take a Mustang GT convertible and save some money while getting a better 4 seat car (okay, so it only seats four in theory) or take the hard top Miata for a lot less and restrict my passengers to one tall blond.

  • avatar
    Landcrusher

    If you are comfy in the Miata, buy it. It is a true value buy.

    Otherwise, would you not have to consider a Jeep at these prices? Certainly it takes a lot longer to drop the top (or much longer to put it back up) but the 4 door wrangler has got to be a competitor since neither of these cars actually has any performance to speak of.

  • avatar

    Reading this review and other reviews about the G6 and Sebring, one has to wonder if Chrysler and GM have 1) Thrown in the towel 2) Are staffed by morons 3) There is something going on that we do not know about. These are the car versions of ‘straight to video’ movies.

    Have the exec’s at these car companies realized that there will be more folks driving these monsters out of car rental lots, than there will ever test drive a GM or Chrysler car out of a dealer lot? And that a those same folks after savouring the delights of these cars in Orlando etc will be thinking “note to myself, dont buy Pontiac or GM”.

    On a last note I am a little surprised that the $37k figure is being quoted. The limited (with the better ‘n’ package) is $24k and that is before the dealership starts to heavily discount the dinosaur.

  • avatar
    Busbodger

    Wow, you guys are harsh. These cars are both pretty good. Not BMW or Honda perfect but still a good strong try by both teams!

    Yes, there is always room for improvement!

    My concern would simply be about long term reliability. What’s it gonna be like at 150K miles? Worn out roof seals that are made of unobtainium? A variety of plastic bits that no longer do their job? A repair list a mile long accompanied with parts prices that would make Bill Gates notice?

    That’s always my primary concerns with any vehicle domestic or import.

    And $37K for what I percieve to be a $25K car is pretty steep.

  • avatar
    Jonny Lieberman

    Man… the G6 must be simply horrible.

  • avatar
    SupaMan

    Larry P2

    I get what you’re saying. I’d rather the Miata as well (Hertz has some good rates on them) however I’m a little concerned about trunk space (the Solstice has zip and the 350Z roadster has a bit more than zip) and the missus tends to carry 2 bags for a weekend vacation (the non-duffel variety). The Pontiac was attractive at first because I’ve driven the sedan and coupe equipped with the 3.6 V6 and the 6 speed auto and found them competent enough. However, this review of the convertible has pretty much sidelined any thought of renting a G6 convertible…and the Sebring is worse.

  • avatar
    dean

    The G6 looks alright in profile, but I just can’t stand the Pontiac grill. The only execution of it that has ever looked good is on the Solstice.

    And the interior. Bleh. It looks a little better than the older Pontiac interiors with the big, cheap Fisher-Price buttons, but the Pontiac designers seem to have some fascination with bulbousness. The dash looks like it has warts all over it.

  • avatar
    ZCline

    The G6 interior makes the Sebring look downright awesome in comparison, at least from the pictures. Who thought acres of black plastic, and then that faux-wood shifter surround were a good idea?

  • avatar
    frontline

    Thank you Mike for the most accurate road test ever written on this side of the Atlantic ocean.

  • avatar
    HEATHROI

    These are the monstrousities that have given the 2.8 their current reputation, why do they persist with this shit?
    What sort of moron drops 37k to pose?
    What shit for brains at GM thought cutting the top off a G6 (which was never well engineered to begin with) would work?

    Couldn’t they learn anything from the last Thunderbird or the Solara?

  • avatar
    John R

    GM and Chrysler better thank their lucky stars that there isn’t an Accord and Altima convertible.

  • avatar
    whatdoiknow1

    OK, how on earth do two companies with limited R&D funds decide to make hard-top convertibles yet forget to engine cars around the convertible hard-tops?

    How is it that time and time again the domestics manage to come up with answers for questions no one is asking.

    No one wants a POS cheap looking convertible! This cars are about as desireable as a fake leather jacket on a 85 degree day!

  • avatar
    Bancho

    theswedishtiger :

    “These are the car versions of ’straight to video’ movies.”

    I LOL’d hard at this due to the inherent truth of it. This statement captures these vehicles in a very elegant way.

  • avatar

    The soft top and hard top Sebring are not the same price. The base prices might be the same, but the hard top is a $1,995 option.

  • avatar
    ccfr8er

    I rented a Chrysler soft-top (in Florida, of course) for a week last month. I didn’t open the hood, but can only guess that it had a smaller engine than your test beast. It was so awful I wanted to leave it by the side of the road and take a bus. Ugly, bad handling, and under powered in the extreme. For the Pontiac to be even worse, they must be getting their design and engineering from old Trabant employees

  • avatar
    ejacobs

    Remember the advertising, “Introducing the first-ever G6.” Finally, a G6 on the market! Good, because I’d just been waiting forever for a G6 to be invented. Huh?

  • avatar
    andyinsdca

    37 grand for these turds? For that much dough you can get a nice CPO BMW 3-series drop top that has a 6-year/100K mi warranty that drives a brazillion times better. Or, for a few $$ more, a new Volvo C70 droptop.

  • avatar
    Dave M.

    On my trip through “convertible test driving land” last year I was incredibly underwhelmed by both of these cars (and the Solara). Even the PT Cruiser on death row was more fun to drive than the Sebring. You might give up a larger back seat, but a new Mustang or a CPO 9-3 or A4 are all a hell of a lot of fun.

    Yet another arena where the domestics can’t match up…..

  • avatar
    rpn453

    Mike, have you actually driven a Mustang convertible? The only convertible I had driven before that was a Miata, and I was absolutely amazed that anyone would buy a vehicle as flimsy as that Mustang. You feel the chassis twisting back and forth as you’re driving and the front and rear “axles” feel completely detached from each other, requiring constant steering corrections if the road is imperfect. And, of course, I learned what cowl shake is. The G6 convertible can’t possibly be worse, can it?

  • avatar
    keepaustinweird

    While a good read, can you please try to focus on cars we the readership is more apt to actually consider buying?

    You mentioned them in the last para:

    Mustang GT Convertible, VW EOS, SAAB 9-3, Mazda MX-5…

    There’s nothing more satisfying than reading something that’s not only interesting and entertaining, but also actionable.

  • avatar
    theflyersfan

    It has to be hard to do a comparo with the 800 (right?) word limit, but please keep them coming. As an earlier reader posted, C&D and the rest comparo tests border on comical and not in a good way. It has to be a major pain to try to get cars together for these tests, but if it can be done, keep doing it!
    BTW – where’s Brock?
    One other thing – the person at Chrysler that actually allowed that hunk of junk to leave the factory at $37K should not just be fired…they should be deported. You might be able to get a 3-series or C70 demo for the same price.

  • avatar
    Lemmiwinks

    “The Pontiac G6 GT Convertible wouldn’t know the word ‘blast’ if it was shot in the face by a Howitzer.”

    “At which point the engine pops a Valium, gives you a dirty look and groans up the rpm band.”

    “The older-than-Bob-Lutz engine designs…”

    I laughed so hard reading this comparo, I scared several people out on my smoke break. Brilliant piece, Mr. Solowiow. A great read.

  • avatar

    @ rpn453,

    Yes, I have driven a Mustang GT Convertible, and it was stiffer than the G6 droptop. I would buy a Mustang, torch a G6. The worst thing about the G6 wasn’t the build quality, or even the cowl shake, it was the fact that it made me hate driving, and I LOVE to drive.

    @ Lemmiwinks,

    Thank you!

  • avatar

    Another considertion for the Sebring, is, will Chrysler be around in five years time. At the moment they are in a self perpetuating downward spiral in an economy doing the same.

  • avatar
    rpn453

    Mike,
    I hear what you’re saying. I will say that, other than the horribly shaped back seats, I found the Mustang convertible to be comfortable and I certainly didn’t hate driving it. I would just rather save the money and chassis stiffness and keep the roof if I were to buy a Mustang.

    BTW, it was great to see a comparison test on here, and I enjoyed reading it.

  • avatar

    I think I’ve seen two G6 tintops in my entire life.

    I’ve seen tons of Sebring ‘verts, all owned by people older than Brock Yates, buying the cheapest possible convertible that can hold 2 golfbags. That trunk is essentially the only redeeming value to the entire current generation of Sebring. You’d think it was designed as a cheap convertible first; a crappy sedan second.

    Nice comparo, btw.

  • avatar
    NickR

    The motto for either of these cars could be ‘Aspiring to be also-rans’.

    The Sebring’s styling, as the review states, is one of the worst dog’s breakfast’s to come along in a while (and given the state of automotive styling, that’s saying something).

    And a 4-speed auto? There are some vehicles I can see that as still being ‘okay’ but this is not one of them. They scraped this sucker together out of their discount bin.

  • avatar
    p00ch

    Reading about these two lemons was a bit like watching Jerry Springer…

  • avatar
    carguy1964

    Dam’mm still makes me proud to be an owner of a “real convertible chop” 85 Celica GTS… that car is rock solid! and handles excelent! even with 182k on the odometer!

  • avatar
    blue adidas

    “From just about any standpoint, four-seat convertibles tend to be perfectly awful cars. The basic two-seat British Roadster idea was the correct one, and in every way too, for some odd engineering or emotional tick.”

    Larry P2,

    I dunno about that. I currently own an S4 cabrio and it’s pretty easy to live with. After three years I still grin like an idiot when I drive it and don’t feel that I’ve sacrificed anything to own it. And life is good when I can drop the top at stoplights. I haven’t found any drawbacks aside from the trunk that’s a bit smaller than the S4 sedan. But even then, it’ll hold three our four duffle bags for a weekend trip. The back seat is even comfortable for adults. A 3 series is also near perfection. Of course an Audi or BMW are each a bit more coin than either the Pontiac or the Chrysler. Conversely, I owned a Triumph TR7 and still have a TR6. Let’s just say that there’s nothing proper about a true British roadster except for beautiful visual design and nostalgia.

  • avatar
    blue adidas

    carguy1964 :

    I LOVED the 85 Celica ragtop! A buddy had one in high school Great car.

  • avatar
    jerry weber

    Isn’t it always the same you get what you pay for. A metal roof that retracts on a mercedes or lexus has been around for some time and never an article like this. If Detroit would have said for 30K you get a cloth roof (but a good one) and a solid platform with decent mechanicals, it would have been enough at that price point. Instead they overeached and now two things will happen. They will sell poorly at great discounts (forget 37K and take 10 off the hood at the end of the first model year). Secondly, as a used investment they will tumble to the value of 3 and 4 year old sebrings (something just north of 10K retail). Is this the resurgent American manufacturer taking back his turf from the aweful foreigners?

  • avatar
    BEAT

    Actually it’s not too bad the side looks like a Honda and The Hard Top Convertible is looking great. I prefer Hard top than soft.

    why? In the winter it’s freakin cold in a soft top and flippin during an accident with a soft top is unimaginable.

    This car is great for retiring baby boomers.

  • avatar
    blautens

    I love comparison tests – keep ‘em coming. This particular one definitely should be filed under Rental Car Tests.

  • avatar
    windswords

    John R :
    March 17th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    “GM and Chrysler better thank their lucky stars that there isn’t an Accord and Altima convertible.”

    Why? Toyota already did (the Solara) and that did so well they canceled it.

  • avatar
    stu.purvis

    What’s the difference between a Saab 9-3 and a Pontiac G6 – oh yeah, the Saab has a choice of 2 smaller, throbbier, wheezier engines with standard turbo lag and a key between the seats. Although I will agree that the G6 is a shitbox, please don’t let your biases interfere with your reviews.

  • avatar

    @ stu.purvis,

    Yes, the two share the same GM Epsilon platform, however, the G6 is on the “extended” version, with a slightly longer wheelbase. Thats where the similarity ends (and I suggest you drive both, they are very different in character).

    But here, in military format is why the SAAB 9-3 is definitely a better car (where I might actually buy one):

    -those wheezier engines are actually a lot more fun to flog than the V6 pushrod design. They rev easier, and the turbo-lag is minimal.
    The modern design developed in Europe by SAAB shows through, they are good engines, the V6’s are average.

    -The SAAB comes with a manual, not the best manual, but a decent one, which greatly adds to the enjoyment. The Pontiacs automatic was horrible beyond belief. I have spent many an hour with the G6 sedan on government trips, and the 4spd auto on the G6 Convertible is no different. Horrible.

    -The interior quality on the SAAB is worlds better (and I mean entire planetary systems better). GM saw fit to endow the SAAB with soft-touch plastics and materials almost everywhere. The Pontiac didn’t. The difference is quite substantial.

    -And the SAAB is a bit stiffer. Still quivers worse than the Chrysler, but not nearly as badly as the Pontiac.

  • avatar

    First time I’ve heard anyone call the Sebring’s interior “nicer” than another car’s. You must really hate this G6.
    Hmm, no mention of the Solara, these duds’ only real competitor?

  • avatar
    BEAT

    Here stop complaining about Pontiac and watch These Race car drivers race and drift a G6

    By the way Ask WHY ON EARTH THEY USED A G6 to race? if it’s piece of crappy car it should fall apart on the race track

    http://pontiacunderground.autos.yahoo.com/motion.php?page=0

    Please if you compare a boring Toyota with a Pontiac G6 it will be a humiliation for those NASCAR fans out there or should I say red necks

  • avatar
    John R

    @windswords

    The difference between an Accord/Altima ragtop and a Solara would be a person would actually enjoy looking at and driving the former.

  • avatar
    John Williams

    @BEAT: By the way Ask WHY ON EARTH THEY USED A G6 to race? if it’s piece of crappy car it should fall apart on the race track

    You mean you can’t distinguish a GTO from a G6? That says a lot about the GTO’s styling (and why it never took off like it should have).

    Besides, drifting a FWD car isn’t much fun, no matter what engine or body it’s attached to.

  • avatar
    capdeblu

    Something is very wrong here. GM is a billion dollar company and has been profitable in the past. Why are they in 2008 producing engines from the 1960’s and transmissions from the 1980″s? WTF

  • avatar
    Carzzi

    AKM :
    March 17th, 2008 at 11:40 am
    That said, I imagine incentives on those 2 cars are big enough to make a Bear Stern share look expensive.

    LOL Now that’s funny, AKM!

    I also found the reviewer’s comparison of the Sebring’s interior to Obama’s rhetoric hilarious, another roffle there from me.

  • avatar
    BEAT

    John Williams my friend uses a front wheel drive when SHE drift her car.

    On the front wheel SHE uses more e brakes than the rear wheel drive.

    You can drift a rear wheel drive without using a E BRAKE it is called power drift.

  • avatar
    Emro

    great write-up, funny stuff… well done Mike!

  • avatar
    jackc10

    Aren’t these all elder chick cars?

    Not counting rentals in Hawaii and Florida:

    Maybe it is because I live (Atlanta metro) and travel mostly in the south, but it is rare to see a male driving a covertible, except the balding pate of a recently divorced Doctor or Real Estate Broker does appear in a Corvette or BMW occasionally. (I am picking on two acquaintances.) By their reports, the rag and hard tops are not chick magnets. The other 99.9% convertibles seem to be driven by females edging towards or past grandmotherhood.

    My wife, who like me, rates a senior discount, loves her Solara. She looked at the others with prices below the stratosphere, and it was a no-brainer, for her. It does ride and drive better than my panic model older Lexus, but the dealership is not as great.

    I wear a hat and sunglasses when I take her Solara for service or to get it washed.

    Convertibles are not what a guy would take to a rodeo, race, business meeting or to the local package store, are they?

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    LeBaron Redux

    Absolutely agree with this, I cannot remember the last time I saw a man under the age of 150 drive a convertible. So yes, they are chick (read old hen)cars, if you think back to the dragons that used to drive around in the LeBaron convertibles, well you will see them again driving these bargain buckets, that is if they are still alive.

  • avatar
    ruben

    Was going thru various blogs to look for best sedan as m planning to purchase one.
    Came across some good sedans at
    http://www.octanmen.com/articleDetail/223/Flaunt-Your-Attitude-with-Cars-in-Vogue.htm

    Now i m confused b/w sedans n SUV by Toyota. Can anyone help me out??? Budget $ 25K

  • avatar
    Busbodger

    - I cannot remember the last time I saw a man under the age of 150 drive a convertible. –

    You guys are missing out!!! I drive a VW Cabrio everyday. Yeah, a girly car. Drop the top, put on my sunglasses and ride… Best part is I can put our two kids in the back, wife up front and we can ride together. Great overnighter car or day tripper car. As much as I like the two seater convertibles, a backseat is for now a requirement.

    The car started out as my wife’s daily driver (and she is starting to drive it again) but after child #2 arrived, she couldn’t lift him in and out of the backseat so she began to drive the CR-V.

    Car has been a hoot. Rollbar for crashes, 115 HP and 35 mpg, tops out at speeds well in excess of what it would take to put me in jail. My old 90 HP 1984 version would top out at ~125 mph, and cruise at 100 mph all day. I’ve had this car up to 100 mph and I suspect it would have the same top end as the 1984.

  • avatar

    I drive a convertible…. and I’m not a girly man!As soon as I put down my Grande Soy Mocha from Starbucks I will show you!

  • avatar
    Busbodger

    Shoot, I had to grow a beard to help my image… VBG!

    The child safety seats help verfiy my membership in the hetero-club… VBG! (not that I waste any time worrying what another person’s lifestyle preference is) VBG!

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    @ Busdoger,

    It helps that most people see the “Porsche” badge first, and instead of questioning my masculinity (despite my girlfriend in the seat beside me… who does drive/race the car as well), they just write me off as a complete prat.

    P.S. I refuse to wear a blue tooth ear piece or pop the collar on my shirt….

  • avatar
    Busbodger

    Mike: ABSOLUTELY! Not bluetooth or standing collars here either.

    I also refuse to go to Starbucks. We brew our coffee at home. Can’t justify the $5 coffees… VBG!

    I miss cheap coffees in Italy. $1.25 would get us all sorts of good coffees.

    Convertibles are a family man’s compromise between a motocycle and a regular car. Selling the motorcycle this spring though. Two small kids in the house, feel too vulnerable on the bike in traffic (too many distracted drivers talking on cellphones). No longer immortal like I was at 25 yrs old.

  • avatar
    ktm

    This review reminds of the the pre-teenage/teenage game of grossing each other out:

    Which would you rather do, drink a cup full of monkey snot or slide down a razor blade into a pool of alcohol.

  • avatar
    jerseydevil

    The pontiac looks like a well – it has bewildering form. the bump ont he rear deak looks really bad. Add that to NO luggage space – i guess the solstace luggage allerge had affected these people too. Not for me.

    The chrysler product is a little more innovative, with the choice of top materials, but why would you want to sacrifice your trunk for a soft top? Also, this car looks all wonky as a coupe.

    Mustang? yes of course. PLease make more fuel efficient fun engines. BMW? 60K boys and girls. get real.

    Saab, yes. Miata, of course, Eos – only in white. It also suffers from wonky tail styling. Also expensive. Gotta put the roof soemwhere. Top down, its a looker, tho.

    I actually I was interested in a ford crown victoria convertable. Kinda like the last gasp of the genre.

  • avatar
    Michael Ayoub

    You guys know what the worst part is?

    I see so many of these in Tampa where I live. I throw up whenever I see one of them. $37k is $57k overpriced.


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