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	<title>Comments on: 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid Review</title>
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		<title>By: digitalsoul</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-166292</link>
		<dc:creator>digitalsoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe there is some math that says that gas savings won&#039;t make up for the price premium paid for a hybrid. So?  That&#039;d a pretty weak argument against buying a hybrid vehicle.  Assuming you&#039;re making a fair enough salary to make such a purchase, I&#039;m sure one could make a few reasonable adjustments to make up the difference.  

Motivation for buying a hybrid doesn&#039;t have to be based solely upon environmentalism. You could simply enjoy the convenience of few fueling trips, or want to reduce your individual use of foreign oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Maybe there is some math that says that gas savings won&#8217;t make up for the price premium paid for a hybrid. So?  That&#8217;d a pretty weak argument against buying a hybrid vehicle.  Assuming you&#8217;re making a fair enough salary to make such a purchase, I&#8217;m sure one could make a few reasonable adjustments to make up the difference.  </p>
<p>Motivation for buying a hybrid doesn&#8217;t have to be based solely upon environmentalism. You could simply enjoy the convenience of few fueling trips, or want to reduce your individual use of foreign oil.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: moto</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-164662</link>
		<dc:creator>moto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Ford, please tell us:

If you&#039;re trying to impress us with your fuel economy, why do you offer a vehicle that is less aerodynamic than a cinder block?

If you&#039;re trying to impress us with advanced technology, why does the driver not have any indication of it, other than the badge?

Say what you will, Toyota did the Prius right.  Its distinctive, very practical, and it is a very different driving experience.  That&#039;s what hybrid owners want.  If Ford wanted to offer a cute ute hybrid, then they should have made it look and feel like something that was designed in the current decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->So, Ford, please tell us:</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re trying to impress us with your fuel economy, why do you offer a vehicle that is less aerodynamic than a cinder block?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re trying to impress us with advanced technology, why does the driver not have any indication of it, other than the badge?</p>
<p>Say what you will, Toyota did the Prius right.  Its distinctive, very practical, and it is a very different driving experience.  That&#8217;s what hybrid owners want.  If Ford wanted to offer a cute ute hybrid, then they should have made it look and feel like something that was designed in the current decade.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: George Labrador</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-154002</link>
		<dc:creator>George Labrador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly dont know where you are coming from when you say that Toyota does not have a good Diesel! I have a friend in Scotland that has been driving a Corolla diesel for several years and really loves the Car, for several years she used to drive a GM Vauxhall Petrol engine, she tell me the difference between the two is like night and day!
I also know that about 60 percent of Vehicles in Europe are Oil burners! Only wish we had them here,maybe someday as I think that to Hybirds are only a stop gap measure and E85 is not with it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I honestly dont know where you are coming from when you say that Toyota does not have a good Diesel! I have a friend in Scotland that has been driving a Corolla diesel for several years and really loves the Car, for several years she used to drive a GM Vauxhall Petrol engine, she tell me the difference between the two is like night and day!<br />
I also know that about 60 percent of Vehicles in Europe are Oil burners! Only wish we had them here,maybe someday as I think that to Hybirds are only a stop gap measure and E85 is not with it either.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Vince Burlapp</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-139452</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince Burlapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re being really nice about the interior.
After test driving one myself for a few days, all I can say is that it does not belong in a car sold in 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->You&#8217;re being really nice about the interior.<br />
After test driving one myself for a few days, all I can say is that it does not belong in a car sold in 2008.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: trk2</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-135112</link>
		<dc:creator>trk2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.J. McCombs

I didn&#039;t mean to imply that you&#039;re article perpetuated the myth that Ford&#039;s hybrid design was developed by Toyota.  My comments were more directed at some of the other responses.  I agree at this point that Ford is probably better off being associated with Toyota.  It would have been nice however to give Ford the proper credit for developing independentaly a system that rivals Toyota&#039;s.  Overall a nice review.</description>
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<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that you&#8217;re article perpetuated the myth that Ford&#8217;s hybrid design was developed by Toyota.  My comments were more directed at some of the other responses.  I agree at this point that Ford is probably better off being associated with Toyota.  It would have been nice however to give Ford the proper credit for developing independentaly a system that rivals Toyota&#8217;s.  Overall a nice review.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NoSubstitute</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-133882</link>
		<dc:creator>NoSubstitute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dwford said:
#2 Unless you drive mostly in the city, be aware it’ll take you about 14 years to pay off the hybrid premium over the regular 4 cylinder (including the $2500 rebate not available on the Hybrid).

Not sure how these numbers were run, but here&#039;s how I ran mine:


Comparing the Escape Hybrid FWD to the 6 cyl Escape (when C&amp;D did a road test some years ago, the 6 was a bit faster than the hybrid, but the 4 was way way slower),per our own True Delta comparo software, the feature adjusted difference between the 6 and the hybrid was $2925 (including rebates from Ford and the US Gov&#039;t)


Next turning to epa.gov and comparing the annual fuel cost for the two (while adjusting the price of regular to the $3.25 I paid this morning in San Francisco), their algorithm kicked out a savings per year of $915 (it assumes 55% city/45% hwy).

Number of years to pay back the &quot;hybrid premium&quot;:
3.2.

No wonder they&#039;re having trouble keeping these things in stock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->dwford said:<br />
#2 Unless you drive mostly in the city, be aware it’ll take you about 14 years to pay off the hybrid premium over the regular 4 cylinder (including the $2500 rebate not available on the Hybrid).</p>
<p>Not sure how these numbers were run, but here&#8217;s how I ran mine:</p>
<p>Comparing the Escape Hybrid FWD to the 6 cyl Escape (when C&amp;D did a road test some years ago, the 6 was a bit faster than the hybrid, but the 4 was way way slower),per our own True Delta comparo software, the feature adjusted difference between the 6 and the hybrid was $2925 (including rebates from Ford and the US Gov&#8217;t)</p>
<p>Next turning to epa.gov and comparing the annual fuel cost for the two (while adjusting the price of regular to the $3.25 I paid this morning in San Francisco), their algorithm kicked out a savings per year of $915 (it assumes 55% city/45% hwy).</p>
<p>Number of years to pay back the &#8220;hybrid premium&#8221;:<br />
3.2.</p>
<p>No wonder they&#8217;re having trouble keeping these things in stock.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: P.J. McCombs</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-133352</link>
		<dc:creator>P.J. McCombs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, I was aware that Ford developed this system more or less on their own, and didn&#039;t intend to perpetuate the myth that Ford simply bought and installed Toyota&#039;s system.

That said, I think that to the average motorist, associating Ford&#039;s hybrid drive with Toyota&#039;s can only help consumer confidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->FWIW, I was aware that Ford developed this system more or less on their own, and didn&#8217;t intend to perpetuate the myth that Ford simply bought and installed Toyota&#8217;s system.</p>
<p>That said, I think that to the average motorist, associating Ford&#8217;s hybrid drive with Toyota&#8217;s can only help consumer confidence.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BEAT</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-133292</link>
		<dc:creator>BEAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.hybridcar.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=81&amp;Itemid=2

So, Why did Tom Watson work so hard to develop a hybrid engine for Ford?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><a href="http://www.hybridcar.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=81&amp;Itemid=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.hybridcar.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=81&amp;Itemid=2</a></p>
<p>So, Why did Tom Watson work so hard to develop a hybrid engine for Ford?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: RobertSD</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-132932</link>
		<dc:creator>RobertSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t you get the memo, trk2?  We need to perpetuate the lie that Ford&#039;s hybrid was designed by Toyota.  That way we don&#039;t have to admit that Ford can actually develop a good piece of technology.  Remember, Ford supports the complete burning of the rainforests while Toyota kisses baby seals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Didn&#8217;t you get the memo, trk2?  We need to perpetuate the lie that Ford&#8217;s hybrid was designed by Toyota.  That way we don&#8217;t have to admit that Ford can actually develop a good piece of technology.  Remember, Ford supports the complete burning of the rainforests while Toyota kisses baby seals.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BEAT</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-132702</link>
		<dc:creator>BEAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My girlfriend loves Kermit the frog.</description>
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		<title>By: trk2</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-132032</link>
		<dc:creator>trk2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we please stop spreading the myth that Ford bought Toyota&#039;s hybrid system and installed it in the Escape.  Ford independently developed their own hybrid system and certain features were close enough that they liscened the patents from Toyota.  This stuff happens all the time. There are no Toyota parts in the Ford Escape Hybrid.  Ford should be praised for developing their own system that works as well (or better) then Toyota&#039;s, and not stereotyped as being so incompetent that they needed Toyota to develop it for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Can we please stop spreading the myth that Ford bought Toyota&#8217;s hybrid system and installed it in the Escape.  Ford independently developed their own hybrid system and certain features were close enough that they liscened the patents from Toyota.  This stuff happens all the time. There are no Toyota parts in the Ford Escape Hybrid.  Ford should be praised for developing their own system that works as well (or better) then Toyota&#8217;s, and not stereotyped as being so incompetent that they needed Toyota to develop it for them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: alpha94</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-128852</link>
		<dc:creator>alpha94</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Paul Niedermeyer 
European&#039;s don&#039;t like hybrids or the prius specifically because it costs a whole lot more and gets a whole lot less mileage than your typical European car.

A prius was tested on Top Gear and got about 45MPG and a Lupo diesel gets around 70MPG and costs a whole lot less. That&#039;s the problem, we&#039;re stuck with these gas guzzlers here for no reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->RE: Paul Niedermeyer<br />
European&#8217;s don&#8217;t like hybrids or the prius specifically because it costs a whole lot more and gets a whole lot less mileage than your typical European car.</p>
<p>A prius was tested on Top Gear and got about 45MPG and a Lupo diesel gets around 70MPG and costs a whole lot less. That&#8217;s the problem, we&#8217;re stuck with these gas guzzlers here for no reason.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: alpha94</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-128812</link>
		<dc:creator>alpha94</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a 2005 Escape Limited for 3 years (lease was up) and seriously debated getting the hybrid. The problem for me was the same problem that existed in 2005. The interest rates on leasing or purchasing these vehicles makes it not worth the while.

We&#039;re talking rates of 10 and 11 percent here and with a premium like that it would take me, personally, 5-7 years minimum just to break even on the cost difference between a Limited and the Hybrid (4WD). This didn&#039;t make sense to me.

I love the idea of a hybrid and really wanted one but it&#039;s just too expensive for them to produce so they drop the MSRP but get you with the interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I had a 2005 Escape Limited for 3 years (lease was up) and seriously debated getting the hybrid. The problem for me was the same problem that existed in 2005. The interest rates on leasing or purchasing these vehicles makes it not worth the while.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re talking rates of 10 and 11 percent here and with a premium like that it would take me, personally, 5-7 years minimum just to break even on the cost difference between a Limited and the Hybrid (4WD). This didn&#8217;t make sense to me.</p>
<p>I love the idea of a hybrid and really wanted one but it&#8217;s just too expensive for them to produce so they drop the MSRP but get you with the interest.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rtz</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-126342</link>
		<dc:creator>rtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This vehicle would be a whole lot more interesting if it had a lithium pack and could be plugged in.  Beat GM to the punch and make this Escape Volt like?

Or since it&#039;s already using Toyota guts...  Remember when Toyota made an electric Rav4 not too many years back?  Make an all electric Escape.  Lithium and 250 mile range?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This vehicle would be a whole lot more interesting if it had a lithium pack and could be plugged in.  Beat GM to the punch and make this Escape Volt like?</p>
<p>Or since it&#8217;s already using Toyota guts&#8230;  Remember when Toyota made an electric Rav4 not too many years back?  Make an all electric Escape.  Lithium and 250 mile range?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Niedermeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TaxedAndConfused: That article hardly says that hybrids suck. Did you actually read it?

Anyway, the French as well as some of the other Europeans are a bit miffed about hybrids, because Toyota has such a lead, and they&#039;re being dragged into hybrids partly against their will, and because its a huge investment that certainly won&#039;t improve their profitability.

The Prius is a game changer, and a lot of manufacturers don&#039;t like the new game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->TaxedAndConfused: That article hardly says that hybrids suck. Did you actually read it?</p>
<p>Anyway, the French as well as some of the other Europeans are a bit miffed about hybrids, because Toyota has such a lead, and they&#8217;re being dragged into hybrids partly against their will, and because its a huge investment that certainly won&#8217;t improve their profitability.</p>
<p>The Prius is a game changer, and a lot of manufacturers don&#8217;t like the new game.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: TaxedAndConfused</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-126032</link>
		<dc:creator>TaxedAndConfused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News from France - Hybrids suck.

http://www.alphagalileo.org/index.cfm?_rss=1&amp;fuseaction=readrelease&amp;releaseid=526948</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->News from France &#8211; Hybrids suck.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alphagalileo.org/index.cfm?_rss=1&amp;fuseaction=readrelease&amp;releaseid=526948" rel="nofollow">http://www.alphagalileo.org/index.cfm?_rss=1&amp;fuseaction=readrelease&amp;releaseid=526948</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: VJW</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-125182</link>
		<dc:creator>VJW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great start, as the only reasonable sized SUV with full hybrid, thanks to Toyota technology.  The really big news is the Ford Escape PHEV with L-ion batteries right around the corner! NMHi batteries are old school, big and heavy.  The new PHEV is a real paradigm changer and the big winner will be who ever can put a PHEV into full production first.  I just assumed it would be Toyota but If Ford can get their PHEV Escape to the market first, it would put them back on top!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This is a great start, as the only reasonable sized SUV with full hybrid, thanks to Toyota technology.  The really big news is the Ford Escape PHEV with L-ion batteries right around the corner! NMHi batteries are old school, big and heavy.  The new PHEV is a real paradigm changer and the big winner will be who ever can put a PHEV into full production first.  I just assumed it would be Toyota but If Ford can get their PHEV Escape to the market first, it would put them back on top!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: veefiddy</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-125172</link>
		<dc:creator>veefiddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would&#039;ve considered one only I really didn&#039;t want a truck...wish they&#039;d share the hybrid setup with Volvo and drop it in a V50 or V70.  A wagon+hybrid=the dorkiest car ever, but that&#039;s what I really actually need.</description>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-125132</link>
		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sat out a light next to a pale green SUV last week. I saw the hybrid badge, then the name Ford painted on the side and thought, &quot;So that&#039;s the Escape hybrid they&#039;re making into a PHEV. Not bad.&quot; Between LionEV and a bad case of new car fever, I&#039;ll probably see them everywhere now.

I also sat in one at the Motor Trend Auto Show this evening. Kermit was not in the building, but the organizers had green trail markers pointing out every hybrid on the floor. As previously noted the interior is nothing special, but at least I didn&#039;t hit my head getting in or out. I can&#039;t remember the last time I saw an energy sticker with a higher city score than highway score, but it was probably inevitable considering the flat slab front end. Somehow the Escape looked sleeker on the road.

I also noticed a new message on LionEV&#039;s site:
&lt;i&gt;Orders for Escape PHEV&#039;s must be in by May Second in order for Ford Motor Company to fill the order. Orders after that date will not be filled until 2009.

There will be a price increase on all vehicles and battery packs on March 1st, 2008. This is due to the weakening US Dollar on the world market. Current prices will be honored until the first of March. New prices will go in to effect on the first.&lt;/i&gt;

Who does PR for these guys? Yeah, I&#039;d love to buy a car with my weakening dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I sat out a light next to a pale green SUV last week. I saw the hybrid badge, then the name Ford painted on the side and thought, &#8220;So that&#8217;s the Escape hybrid they&#8217;re making into a PHEV. Not bad.&#8221; Between LionEV and a bad case of new car fever, I&#8217;ll probably see them everywhere now.</p>
<p>I also sat in one at the Motor Trend Auto Show this evening. Kermit was not in the building, but the organizers had green trail markers pointing out every hybrid on the floor. As previously noted the interior is nothing special, but at least I didn&#8217;t hit my head getting in or out. I can&#8217;t remember the last time I saw an energy sticker with a higher city score than highway score, but it was probably inevitable considering the flat slab front end. Somehow the Escape looked sleeker on the road.</p>
<p>I also noticed a new message on LionEV&#8217;s site:<br />
<i>Orders for Escape PHEV&#8217;s must be in by May Second in order for Ford Motor Company to fill the order. Orders after that date will not be filled until 2009.</p>
<p>There will be a price increase on all vehicles and battery packs on March 1st, 2008. This is due to the weakening US Dollar on the world market. Current prices will be honored until the first of March. New prices will go in to effect on the first.</i></p>
<p>Who does PR for these guys? Yeah, I&#8217;d love to buy a car with my weakening dollars.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NickR</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-124952</link>
		<dc:creator>NickR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The problem is the supply. We turn 10-20 customers away each month because there are none to be had. &lt;/em&gt;

If Ford&#039;s product planning fumbles the ball on this, there should be heads rolling down the aisles in Dearborn.  Seriously, what&#039;s worse than a flop?  A success you can&#039;t make enough of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>The problem is the supply. We turn 10-20 customers away each month because there are none to be had. </em></p>
<p>If Ford&#8217;s product planning fumbles the ball on this, there should be heads rolling down the aisles in Dearborn.  Seriously, what&#8217;s worse than a flop?  A success you can&#8217;t make enough of.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: empowah</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-124772</link>
		<dc:creator>empowah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About FEH profitability: http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-hybrids-will-become-profitable-this-year.html

About FEH reliability: http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/f33/cabbies-love-escape-hybrid-16959/

Ford isn&#039;t losing money on each hybrid they sell; rather supply is limited because, well, the supply of Sanyo batteries and Aisin transmissions is limited.

Ford is using a different battery supplier on the upcoming Fusion Hybrid, so hopefully they&#039;ll make them in greater numbers.

Since its release in late 2004, they have sold ~70,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->About FEH profitability: <a href="http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-hybrids-will-become-profitable-this-year.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-hybrids-will-become-profitable-this-year.html</a></p>
<p>About FEH reliability: <a href="http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/f33/cabbies-love-escape-hybrid-16959/" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/f33/cabbies-love-escape-hybrid-16959/</a></p>
<p>Ford isn&#8217;t losing money on each hybrid they sell; rather supply is limited because, well, the supply of Sanyo batteries and Aisin transmissions is limited.</p>
<p>Ford is using a different battery supplier on the upcoming Fusion Hybrid, so hopefully they&#8217;ll make them in greater numbers.</p>
<p>Since its release in late 2004, they have sold ~70,000.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: guyincognito</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-124572</link>
		<dc:creator>guyincognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shhhhhh. You are ruining Ford&#039;s plan to leave their genuinely good vehicles in utter obscurity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Shhhhhh. You are ruining Ford&#8217;s plan to leave their genuinely good vehicles in utter obscurity.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-124552</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geotpf: You nailed it.</description>
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		<title>By: dwford</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-124442</link>
		<dc:creator>dwford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right you are Pdub. 3 times this week I had to give the &quot;you&#039;ll never pay for the hybrid premium with gas savings &quot; speech. One guy got indignant, the other said &quot;oh, so I&#039;ll look at the 4 cylinder instead.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Right you are Pdub. 3 times this week I had to give the &#8220;you&#8217;ll never pay for the hybrid premium with gas savings &#8221; speech. One guy got indignant, the other said &#8220;oh, so I&#8217;ll look at the 4 cylinder instead.&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Geotpf</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008-ford-escape-hybrid-review/comment-page-1/#comment-124412</link>
		<dc:creator>Geotpf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect Ford loses money on every one they sell, hence the shortage of supply of them (they are making as few as possible and still get the green halo effect yet lose as little money as possible).

Since Toyota doubled production of the Prius about a year ago, I have no doubt they make money on it.  Just shows how more efficient Toyota is compared to Ford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I suspect Ford loses money on every one they sell, hence the shortage of supply of them (they are making as few as possible and still get the green halo effect yet lose as little money as possible).</p>
<p>Since Toyota doubled production of the Prius about a year ago, I have no doubt they make money on it.  Just shows how more efficient Toyota is compared to Ford.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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