By on May 21, 2007

2007ls_460l_13.jpgMy wife struggles with two automotive tasks: finding her destination and maneuvering the car into a parking space. (Locating a parking space is another issue, but why make her sound any more spatially challenged than she is?) The only voice my wife follows without question emanates from her car’s navigation system. So, issue number one sorted. Until now, she has endured her parking problem by opting for garages or HUGE spots. When she heard about the Lexus LS’ new automated parking system, she sent me to the dealer to check it out.

I tried to wiggle out of the assignment by explaining that my review of the short wheelbase Lexus LS incurred the wrath of Lexus fans across the web. But this time it was personal. To further differentiate this review from the last, I located an LS quipped with the touring edition option, which adds nineteen inch wheels, variable ratio steering and an air suspension.

55_2007-ls-460.jpgLexus has been criticized for many things by car enthusiasts, but never for their marketing savvy. In the case of their large sedan, the handling package is only available on the long wheelbase LS. Europeans typically add the handling and engine mods to their short wheelbase cars; this contrast had me puzzled. Does Lexus reserve the choice option packages only for the more expensive models?

Fortunately for my wife, the parking gimmicks are available across the line. Unfortunately, the “advanced parking guidance system” and the “intuitive parking assist” were anything but. I’d rather endure the experience of watching my wife back in and out of a spot twenty times than be guided by the Lexus’ ghost parker.

Aside from being slow and complex, there were occasions where I felt obligated to intercede, sensing imminent danger. OK, here we go:

blogscarscom.jpgFirst you must fiddle with the parking target area in the guidance system screen to make sure that the computer sees that there is a legitimate space to occupy, and you both agree on its location. Then you slowly let off the brake, keeping a watchful eye out the windows (not just at the monitor). Did the computer notice the light pole? It should be outlined on the screen.

There is entertainment value in watching the wheel whipsaw to and fro, but in the time it takes for the Lexus to park itself, all the good parking spots will be stolen from under you (at least in my town). There is no doubt in my mind that Lexus and their suppliers will perfect this concept. For now, it appears they’ve rushed it to market to have something [other than their eight speed transmission] to talk trash about.

Now, my turn…

Having thoroughly dissed the LS’ driving experience in my last LS review, I have a shocking revelation: the touring edition is fun to drive. It’s almost as engaging as the latest Mercedes S Class.

10_2007-ls-460.jpgStarting out with the suspension in comfort mode reminded me why I don’t like Japanese luxury sedans: they tend to wallow only slightly less than late ‘70’s American luxobarges. A quick switch to the sport mode neatly transformed the LS into a European-like sedan. The ride quality became firm yet absorbent. The dynamic capabilities ascended from one-handed yachtsmanship to two-handed Teutonic corner carver.

The tweaked LS’ steering now has something approximating heft; you can [even] sense what the front tires are doing during cornering. I don’t get what Lexus are talking about with their “high friction brakes,” but the anchors are plenty powerful and easy to modulate.

Now that I could get past and yes enjoy the LS’ driving experience, I could better appreciate the sybaritic touches.

69_2007-ls-460.jpgThe luxury package includes the finest, softest leather ever made by hand of man (presumably). The leather on the steering wheel has been buffed to such a creamy, buttery consistency it feels like it’s been slathered with foie gras. The “ecsaine” headliner made me feel like I was encapsulated within a lamb’s belly. The executive class seating package had me clamoring for warmed nuts and champagne.

The Mark Levinson reference audio system– with enough memory for 2k songs– is astounding. If I owned this car, I’d probably spend more time parked, sitting in the backseat listening to the sound system, than driving it.

I’m not sure how I feel about the infrared sensors that monitor rear-seat passenger’s body temperature, and then adjust the AC to suit. Are brainwave sensors far behind? Scary stuff.

32_2007-ls-460.jpgMore to the point, what will my fellow pistonheads think of me now? First Porsche’s navigation system makes me pine for BMW’s iDrive. Now, a Lexus LS 460L touring edition tickles my fancy. Oh God, have I become my parents? Listen up Lexus; you need to make these touring packages optional across your line. Even German car lovers will be seduced.

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56 Comments on “Lexus LS460L Review...”


  • avatar
    mdanda

    I’m not one to brag, but I am one of the finest parallel parkers in the Midwest. As Lexus refines this technology over the next few years, and then inevitably trickles it down to the rest of the Lexus and Toyota lines, the parallel parking art appears to be on the verge of becoming non-relevant. Sigh.

  • avatar
    philbailey

    Just a question from the Great White North. What happens in deep snow on unploughed side streets? Does Lexus come with an automatic “get you out of the hole you just dug, device?”. If not, automatic parking, as with solar panels, is a five month of the year gimmick.

  • avatar
    shaker

    I had a friend who moved to Pgh. PA from upstate NY, who was lamenting the fact that he had to teach his son parallel parking skills (skillz?) so he could pass the PA driver’s test. I asked him, “What if you have to park in the city, or small town with parallel parking?” “We’ll just find a parking garage.” he said.
    Soon, there will be a generation of drivers that, being born and raised in suburbia, will have no reason/ability to parallel park; in this case, I will welcome our new robotic parking overlords.
    (Oh, nice review, BTW! ;-)

  • avatar

    I noticed a similar improvement in handling with the sport suspension on the previous generation LS. Good to hear that carried over, though the base car’s handling has improved. Like you I wonder why the option is only available on the LWB car.

    The optional leather is also restricted to the LWB car. A huge improvement over the standard leather in the old LS 430, and it sounds like it’s equally nice this time around.

    Some of my father’s friends were also intrigued by the parking system. But every review seems to find it useless at this stage of development.

    For pricing information on the LS:

    http://www.truedelta.com/models/LS460.php

  • avatar
    ash78

    I’m 28 and can count on one hand the number of times I’ve had to parallel park in my life.

    I’ve posed this before, but in all the cities I’ve been to, this is one of those cars that you don’t generally see on the street (these people shell out for garage spots). So it sounds like a tool that would be better suited on entry-level cars, but there’s the catch-22.

    Nice-looking ride. I still think Lexus makes some of the best looking cars right now, since Mercedes is sort of “eh” and Bimmer’s Banglization still hasn’t evolved into anything I consider palatable, at least in sedan form.

  • avatar
    Maxb49

    What a beautiful car. Hopefully it maintains a tradition of Toyota reliability.

  • avatar

    As an official representative of the 6′something” community, I can officially state that I can sit comfortably in this vehicle without hitting my head. on the ceiling. Entering & exiting is also without incidents.

    Compare this to some of Mercede’s newest offerings, from a land where 6′somethings” are a lot more common than in the Land of the Rising Sun. I don’t get it, but I can’t sit comfortable in a few of them. (R-Class thing is especially cramped).

    ash78:
    I don’t know, it’s nice but very conservative looking. It looks like a Bimmer to me, esp. from the side. The red/white tail light curving around the side is distinctly last 7 series.

  • avatar
    g4zilla

    mdanda: ”I’m not one to brag, but I am one of the finest parallel parkers in the Midwest.” Great! Teach my daughter, will you? She refuses to listen to me. ("Dad, stop telling me what to do!") The fact that she has failed her driving test three times due to inability to parallel park somehow doesn't register with her…

  • avatar
    dolo54

    I have the feeling that if you can’t parallel park you aren’t really qualified to drive. Not necessarily because you always have to parallel park, but because it requires a degree of spacial awareness of your car that you need in just about every tight driving situation, like passing on a crowded freeway. And hey the stars are back! Yaaay stars!

  • avatar
    bfg9k

    # dolo54:
    May 21st, 2007 at 9:10 am

    I have the feeling that if you can’t parallel park you aren’t really qualified to drive. Not necessarily because you always have to parallel park, but because it requires a degree of spacial awareness of your car that you need in just about every tight driving situation, like passing on a crowded freeway. And hey the stars are back! Yaaay stars!

    I concur completely. You’ve really mastered parallel parking when you can do it on the left hand side of the street and the spot is just a in or two too small for the car…but the other cars can be rocked out of the way ;) I’m kidding, I’ve only had to do that to get OUT of a spot.

  • avatar
    NickR

    I have the feeling that if you can’t parallel park you aren’t really qualified to drive.

    Absolutely. Half of this city’s traffic woes would vanish if a) people could either parallel park in under one minute, or b) get their license yanked because they can’t.

  • avatar

    I saw one of these on the street the other day and was very impressed; unlike any of the previous “LS” cars, this one does have Presence and is truly a handsome car, something I have trouble saying about either the S-class or the 7-series.

    I know that we enthusiasts get our panties in a knot when manufacturers don’t build in the handling prowess of the BMW 3-series, but it is an unfortunate fact that most of the buyers of these large cars are looking for sybaritic pleasure and not driving experience. A neighbor of mine, who has owned several Benz cars and at least one BMW recently bought a Lexus ES350. Short story: he thinks he died and went to heaven and has no understanding of why I spent another $10k on a BMW 335i. He’s looking for the status and the coddling that Toyota has skillfully engineered into even the lowly Camry chassis, and is very happy with his purchase.

    Not only is parallel parking going the way of the dodo, but so is the idea of actually being involved with the vehicle whilst piloting it.

    And as much as I enjoy the 3-series, I avoided the idiotic I-drive because of the ridiculous user interface; I do miss having a decent nav system, but not enough to keep my Acura TL, which itself was even too involving for my neighbor.

    While I do hope that Toyota will work to include the enthusiast into their future offerings, the luxo market seems to be going in the other direction.

  • avatar

    Lexus is teaching many people what the term LUXURY means. This car raises the bar.

  • avatar
    Gardiner Westbound

    I was shocked to find I have lost my ability to parallel park when, for the first time in years, I tried a few days ago. Having drawn a crowd, and overcome with embarrassment, I parked elsewhere.

  • avatar
    Eric_Stepans

    Here’s a video of some Automobile Magazine staffers trying out the self-parking feature. It’s kind of funny…..

    http://www.automobilemag.com/multimedia/video/0610_lexus_ls460_auto_park/

  • avatar
    Geotpf

    There are at least two rival car companies making fun of the auto park feature in this Lexus in thier TV ads (I think they were Kia and BMW). That has to be a first.

  • avatar
    theSane

    In ’96 in Illinois we were taught how to parallel park a mid-80′s station wagon as part of drivers ed. They would fail us from the course if we couldn’t do it.

    Though I don’t use the skill a lot, I am still grateful they taught us how.

  • avatar

    “Champagne and warmed nuts…”
    Is there an issue with the heated seats? Sorry I couldn’t leave that one alone ;-)
    How much of a challenge is this vehicle to parallel park manually? Are the sight lines good?

  • avatar

    Do we really need ANOTHER layer of insulation between the driver and the act of driving? Even something as mundane as parking the car is all about car control. If you can’t do it, you should not be behind the wheel. Ever.

    I am so glad I live in a rural area, with plenty of curved and sloping gravel driveway. I was able to drill my teenage son on everything from handling the car in a randomly induced skid (me on the handbrake) to parallel parking (by putting the beater pickup and some trash cans in mortal peril.)

    Parking isn’t THAT tough folks… figure it out ferchrissakes.

    –chuck

  • avatar
    jurisb

    a marvelous car, i can`t find a single aesthetic glitch. maybe except those pale grey buttons on the steering wheel and on dash. this is how japanese demonstrate their supremacy. designing their cars themselves. they don`t have to nervously make phone calls to a recently bought subsidiary to negotiate about making a global sharing parts bin. they do honest work, and afterwards- drink champagne.and I be damned, but this is the only way in this universe to achieve long term plans. lexus is about gadgetry, about reserved ,yet strongly individual design. with absolutely marvelous detailing. here you won`t find a- pillar to front fender glitches, or broken chrome door rims in edges. you can`t find a disproportionate lexus. lexus seduces german car builders to add more gizmos ( optional of course, poor germans), but germans fail in long term reliability, and this is what lexus expects,- to attract the furious customers coming straight from a german car shop. made in japan. the name has a reputation. what a name Made in USA stands for? united services of america?

  • avatar
    wsn

    I have the feeling that if you can’t parallel park you aren’t really qualified to drive.

    I still remember when I was in high school, I was taught how to obtain the square root of a number by pen and paper only. Very good indicator of math and logic ability, indeed.

    So, if you can’t find the square root of a number without a calculator, you aren’t really qualified to work in a science/engineering field?

  • avatar
    wsn

    Replying to chuckgoolsbee:
    Do we really need ANOTHER layer of insulation between the driver and the act of driving? Even something as mundane as parking the car is all about car control. If you can’t do it, you should not be behind the wheel. Ever.

    May I ask, how many of you guys have ever actively lobbied to make sure that drivers licenses are not granted to those cannot drive/park properly?

    If none, let’s just praise Lexus for reducing the risk that your parked car hit by an idiot driver.

  • avatar
    sitting@home

    In ‘96 in Illinois we were taught how to parallel park a mid-80’s station wagon as part of drivers ed. They would fail us from the course if we couldn’t do it.

    When I took my test in the UK I had to perform a hill start in a stick shift, reverse into a major road and perform an emergency stop without skidding (no ABS in them days). I use those almost every day getting out of my driveway and driving past the local high school to the stop lights at the top of the hill.

    When I took my California driving test all I had to do was keep to the speed limit and perform a parallel park, neither of which have come in much use since.

  • avatar
    thetopdog

    I grew up in the suburbs and even though I now live in Boston, I’m still terrible at parallel parking. I highly doubt this has any reflection on my driving ability however, handling a car at speed and handling a car at 2mph are entirely different skill sets. Kind of like seeing a short, fat, nerdy guy sink 30 consecutive free throws and assuming he can play in the NBA

  • avatar
    JJ

    Regarding the driver’s license discussion; Living in the densely populated Netherlands the requirements for getting a license are (developed over recent years) among, if not the most strict in the world. All sorts of parking manouvers are part of the training and can be part of the practical exam…

    …That will be EUR 1500-2000, please.

    And no, you can’t learn your kid to drive yourself since it’s prohibited, there will be a large fine to pay if you get caught and you’re not insured while in the process.

    All in the name of making public transportation more appealing to the general public (everybody knows this is not possible, so you’ll have to make private transportation less appealing, obviously)

    So be careful what you wish for.

  • avatar
    Caffiend

    Driving in San Francisco reprogrammed my parallel parking genes. Parking on hills with a stick will make you good, of course the learning curve will leave some bumpers in your wake.

    Now, my Mercedes tilts the passenger side mirror so I can see the curb. I thought that was the coolest.

  • avatar
    Johnson

    It’s refreshing to see a review of a luxury full-size sedan actually discuss luxury, instead of all other reviews that typically only focus on handling.

  • avatar
    Yuppie

    I agree completely with Dolo’s comment re: not having the skill to parallel park = not having the skill to drive. But unfortunately most of those who lack the skill to drive still have the privilege (or “right” in the USA) to do so.

    My first driving test (British Columbia, Canada) required parallel parking. My second (Orange County, California) did not.

    If the DMV require: (1) a realistic parallel parking test (i.e., length of parking spot

  • avatar

    I am all for people not knowing how to parallel park – more spots for me!

    I think in Europe the car does the parking by itself, but in the US, because of litigation fears, they made the driver have a more active role.

    While I think the A8 is still the best looking in this class, the bad wheel arches, rear lights, and proportions just really turn me off of the S-class. If I was looking at a luxobarge, I would consider an LS, especially since I really don’t have this weird obsession with sports-like handling in large cars. Who wants something so ridiculously large and floaty anyway?

  • avatar

    Geotpf:

    Audi also makes fun of the self-parking. The Lexus is even sitting in the commercial. I like this one.

    http://germancarscene.com/2007/05/14/audi-a4-parking-commercial/

  • avatar
    maxspivak

    When I first read about the parking aid, I thought it was a neat idea. It’s not for me — I learned to drive and park in hilly San Francisco — but my wife, a suburbia native, could use it. As could my Mom in her Merc S-whatever-it’s-too-long.

    But let’s not make a huge deal about parking and other aids removing driver from the equation. Auto trannies haven’t made stick shifting obsolete. There will always be a some who take pride in the manual, harder approach — purely for the challenge of mastering a skill. My wife’s 20 year old kid brother (same suburbia home) bought a manual transmission car, and taught me a thing or two about double-clutching. But, this parking system, like the auto trans. will help those for whom driving is somewhere between a chore and necessary evil. And that’s just fine.

  • avatar
    ihatetrees

    dolo54:
    May 21st, 2007 at 9:10 am

    I have the feeling that if you can’t parallel park you aren’t really qualified to drive. Not necessarily because you always have to parallel park, but because it requires a degree of spacial awareness of your car that you need in just about every tight driving situation, like passing on a crowded freeway. And hey the stars are back! Yaaay stars!

    When space aliens land and appoint Mr Farago official Dictator/King/Grand-Poo-bah of North America, we piston-heads will be able to rejoice in a driving-skills based system of licensing and enforcement. So keep star gazing, but don’t hold your breath…

    wsn:
    May 21st, 2007 at 11:59 am

    So, if you can’t find the square root of a number without a calculator, you aren’t really qualified to work in a science/engineering field?

    I think a good engineer would have an interest in how it’s done. Those who use square roots regularly get quick approximations in their heads via clever factoring and the fact that sqrt(x*x+a) is close to x+a/2x.
    Ex: sqrt(920) = sqrt (900 + 20) = 30 + 20/60.

  • avatar
    Yuppie

    Complaint – My initial comment was cut off!

    As I was saying, if the DMV required realistic parallel parking test (length of parking space approx. one and a half times the length of test taker’s vehicle, very reasonable), traffic congestion will be drastically reduced in Southern California.

    Of course, this requires testing to be conducted in the vehicle actually registered to the test taker (for retests on expiration of license) and other mechanics to prevent people from “passing” in an Aveo and then driving around in a Suburban.

  • avatar
    Yuppie

    http://germancarscene.com/2007/05/14/audi-a4-parking-commercial/

    Now all I have to learn is how to park like the Audi commercial posted by BlueBrat.

  • avatar
    Johnster

    I just can’t help thinking that this car is what the Lincoln Town Car or Cadillac DTS should be.

    About parallel parking, years ago one of the mainstream auto magazines (I think it was Road & Track) had a decidedly sexist article in which it was suggested that people who were unable to parallel park suffered from a form of distorted body image. More specifically, it was suggested that certain drivers (mostly women) had an image of themselves as being petite flowers when in fact they were not so petite. Somehow this distorted body image carries over to the driver’s image of his or her car. The driver underestimates the physical size of his or her car and is therefore unable to parallel park it in most parking places.

  • avatar
    jconli1

    To all the people who say parallel parking has nothing to do with good vehicle control, I’d hate to be near you on a crowded highway or some other place where panic lane changes and sheeplike group-overreaction are a high probability. Then again, like parallel parking, that might be a largely Northeastern phenomenon.

    Just today some genius panic braked on I-95, 3 lanes away from the exit and started to cut over. Everyone reacted to differing levels of success, but rather than jamming on the brakes or swerving like most of the other people nearby, I know where the exact corners of my car are and was able to smoothly thread myself through the clutter, into next lane and keep going without any drama.

    The key parallel parking is not unlike personal enlightenment : know yourself (your potential and your limitations – not to mention how much space you take up, fatty). Its pretty simple after that.

  • avatar
    Martin Schwoerer

    It has been my belief that Americans are skilled at parallel parking. Many times have I seen normal guys place their Buicks into impossibly small slots. Us Germans, in contrast, are lousy at it and seem to prefer the open road. But perhaps you Yanks are losing the ability? Camilla Paglia has attributed lower driving skills to fewer dads teaching their kids how to drive well — an effect of “the fatherless generation”.

  • avatar
    carlisimo

    Martin, Americans who live in urban areas get very good at it, and Americans who don’t, don’t. Similarly, driving tests in some areas test your parallel parking skills and in some areas they don’t (this is also true of freeway driving – I wasn’t asked to try it).

    It really has nothing to do with being American, just what kind of area you live in.

  • avatar
    Geotpf

    BlueBrat-I wasn’t sure about BMW-it was Audi instead. Kia was right, though-they had an ad for the Amanti telling you with all the money you saved buying an Amanti over the Lexus, you could have the valet park it for you. Not that anybody cross shops a Lexus LS460L and a Kia Amanti, but whatever-why not aim high?

  • avatar
    johnnycam

    Not only should a licensed driver be capable of parallel parking in a tight spot, on the left side of the road, but one should be capable of driving backwards at a speed of at least 20 mph.

    Perhaps that’s just me though – I don’t want those six summers and weekends of driving forklifts to go to waste.

    If you want to improve your parking skills, get a job in a warehouse. For now, skip the Lexus.

  • avatar
    yankinwaoz

    Wanna see really bad parallel parkers? Come out to Western Australia. When I moved out here from California I was shocked at the piss-poor parking jobs I got to witness.

    Even today, when I want a good laugh, I will watch someone try to parallel park into a slot that would 3 cars in Europe. It can take 15 minutes and 8 or 9 moves to park a car sometimes.

    I don’t blame them though. Western Australia is the largest state in the world. And it is one of the least populated areas on the planet. So worrying about parking space is usually never an issue.

    Also, because W.A. is generally a flat, empty, warm region, I’ve noticed that they don’t know how to curb their wheel when parking on hills. Nor do they know anything about driving on ice or snow.

  • avatar
    Captain Neek

    Bad PARALLEL parking – pah!

    You should come out here to Gaborone, Botswana (that’s in Southern Africa, folks) where a generation of new drivers has yet to learn the art of parking in a demarcated BAY. At the local mall (there are only 4 or 5 in the whole city!), it’s not uncommon to see a few large SUVs/trucks with at least two of their wheels outside the demarcated area. The random (aim-and-pray?) manner of parking is hilarious to witness.

    Anyway, the general lack of driver skill pales into insignificance when compared to other road hazards, including donkeys wandering over the “highways” at night. Donkeys are found near roads because the rain run-off leads to the growth of “some” grass at the verges.

    What makes the sport of night-donkey-dodging even more exciting is that they do not move out the way AT ALL. I couldn’t understand why they didn’t respond to the horn of an oncoming vehicle until a local told me that they all had their front legs TIED TOGETHER…to prevent them running away…

    Of course, this makes PERFECT sense in a country where the concept of a fence along the border of a farm is unheard of – and that’s because none of the land belongs to anybody, which is a completely different story.

    Nice car (needs a donkey-spotter, though), good review. btw, What’s it like to drive on gravel? Oh, never mind.

  • avatar
    Yuppie

    Here is California many people, especially SUV drivers, seem to be incapable of parking within the lines of the parking space. Clearly, their vehicles would fit, but they either cannot judge the width of their vehicles, or just don’t care.

    Many times I have been tempted to leave a note: “Learn to park, @$$h0le. It’s just like when you learned to color in grade school – don’t go over the lines.”

  • avatar
    tankd0g

    Although I am capable of paralell parking I have to admit I always find a space that lets me drive straight in. Even if I had this system I would continue to do the same.

  • avatar
    thetopdog

    jconli1: I have performed some incredible high-speed evasive maneuvers in my time. I’ve also driven safely through conditions that would terrify many (eg. Piloting my C6 Vette with 285/35/ZR19 rear summer tires safely home from work through a freak April snowfall). I don’t see what any of this has to do with squeezing my car into a tight space at

  • avatar
    Johnster

    It’s the old, “I’m an excellent driver. I just don’t know how to park!”

  • avatar
    Yuppie

    Re: jconli1 v. thetopdog…

    While it’s true that driving fast safely and parallel parking require different skill sets, both sets of skills are based on, among other factors, vehicle awareness.

    By vehicle awareness I mean knowing exactly where the 4 corners of your vehicles are, AND how your steering, throttle and brake inputs affect the location of the 4 corners. This is different, but overlaps with, understanding vehicle dynamics.

    If one is below average at parallel parking, how could can one’s vehicle awareness possibly be?

    In my opinion, D1 and rally car drivers have the best vehicle awareness, given that they work with the least space. Maybe we can poll these groups and see whether they can parallel park.

  • avatar
    johnhender

    i have a lexus IS i am conflicted about this car, as i also have an 2003 audi a6 4.2 i love the car when it decides it wants to work. i take good care of my cars the main reason i own a lexus is because i am so sick and tired of the german cars in the shop every month with the high price and crappy service. When will the germans understand it is not normal for a car to be in the shop all the time and not treat me like sh*t when i am there. This is the reason why the LS will be my next car Next time the Audi acts up it is gone! I am going to do the same thing my customers who drove mercedes and bmw did trade it for a LS and never look back .of all my customers who have lexus’s i have never seen one in the shop except for sceduled maintiance I like the new ls When i bought my is i went to look at the new BMW but the sale guy were horrible they acted like i couldnt afford the car went and bought the lexus that night first time i had to wait in line to buy a car I am sad i have to make a decision between a car that works and driving precision which is no good if it is in the shop all the time

  • avatar
    AKILEZ

    I prefer Lexus than BMW or Mercedes.
    I still can’t understand Why German cars are love by people. Is it the name or the country it was made from? Like Made in Japan.

  • avatar
    Kman

    To parallel park, the following trick works flawlessly. If followed to the letter, even my mother can park in the tightest Montreal downtown spots:

    1. Bring your car’s rear bumper even with the car in front’s rear bumper.
    1a. STOP!
    2. Turn the wheel over until lock (while stopped!)
    3. Begin reversing slowly, until your car is at a forty-five degree angle.
    3a. STOP!
    4. Straighten the wheels
    5. Reverse slowly until your outside rear-view mirror is inline with the car-in-front’s outside rearview mirror.
    5a. STOP!
    6. Turn the wheel over in the opposite direction until lock.
    7. Reverse, slowly easing into your final parking position.

    Done.

    This really works everytime if you dont’ skip a step. The most common failure point when I give this trick to novices, is their failure to STOP! during the wheel turning maneuvers. [Once you\'re experienced, this becomes more flowing, and you will be figuring out when and how much to turn the wheel. But the above works every time if applied to the letter.]

    I’d love to hear from those not used to parallel parking how the above works for you.

    Cheers!

    – Kman.

  • avatar
    fellswoop

    Wow, what a great thread.

    TTAC is certainly international.

    As a motorcyclist/scooterist that commutes in Boston traffic, I get to see just how piss-poor most people’s perceptions of how large their vehicles are is…and I take advantage of that fact by riding my 2 wheeled vehicles through the enormous gaps people leave.

    On the flip side…seeing a skilled CDL driver pilot a frickin’ *semi* (gas truck drivers are the best..gentle and smooth) through Beantown traffic is just amazing.

  • avatar
    Sajeev Mehta

    Wonderful review. Nice to hear the touring package makes the LS feel better than a Town Car. That was certainly the wrong move for a Lexus.

    The stock calibrations are not in line with the car’s competition, target market, or the rest of car’s contemporary flavor. I’ll second that Touring + short wheelbase combination. Hurry up, Lexus!

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    LamborghiniZ

    People, people, focus more on the car as a whole, and less on the parallel parking thing. I’m trying to gauge people’s impressions of this vehicle and it seems like almost all the posts center around the parking feature..it’s not that deep.

    I think this car is gorgeous inside and out, whether or not I like it more than the A8 and 7-Series remains to be seen, as I have yet to drive it. I know my favorite in this class is most certainly the S550, but if this is as decently sporting as this review says it is, the LS460 might take a good second or third place behind the MB, but only time will tell. It looks great and is as luxurious as ever, and the touring package sounds like it rounds things out.

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    Gottleib

    Its not about the parking, its the fact that its exclusive and new, something to set the Lexus apart from the other high priced luxury cars. It gives bragging rights to the new purchasers of the Lexus with this feature to one up their associates that have those other luxury cars without this feature. By the way how many people that buy cars costing over $75,000 worry about parallel parking?

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    Johnson

    Sajeev, I disagree. The stock calibrations are certainly what the target market wants, and looking at sales for the past few months, the LS is the best selling model in the segment, so obviously customers do like the stock calibrations. A very small percentage of LS models are sold with the Touring Package.

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    I’m indeed a Toyota Lover and for me this Toyota Lexus LSis a Priciest hybrid. The first first hybrid to incorporate an all-wheel-drive power train to a V8 engine. That makes me excited to see this new Toyota hybrid.


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