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	<title>Comments on: 1986 Alfa Romeo Spider Graduate Review</title>
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		<title>By: stevelovescars</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/1986-alfa-romeo-spider-graduate-review/comment-page-1/#comment-673102</link>
		<dc:creator>stevelovescars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, the steering wheel in this car doesn&#039;t look anything like laquered wood in the photos.  Not to nit pick, but I believe that after 1984 none of the Alfa Spiders came with wood wheels and they lost the metal dash pods at the sametime.  I can only assume that these changes were made either in the name of safety regulations or lowered manufacturing costs.  OTOH, the Alfa Spider is one of the few cars around in which an aftermarket wood wheel doesn&#039;t look out of place.  

I was at a charity auction a couple of weeks ago and there was a red Graduate almost identical to the one in your test for sale.  It only had about 60k original miles and looked great.  It sold for a market-correct $5,100.  A lot of fun for the money.  I was very tempted until I remembered the 1991 silver Miata sitting in my driveway at home.  

The late 1980s and early &#039;90s surely had a lot of interesting Japanese cars hitting the market.  Objectively, any CRX, MR2 or Miata were all superior to the dated roadsters from Alfa, Fiat, and MG that were either being sold or on their last legs just a few years earlier.   The Miata was the first modern roadster introduced since, I don&#039;t know, the Triumph TR7?  

You do need some perpective in your article.  In 1986 the Ford Mustang&#039;s base 4-cylinder had something like 85 hp and build quality was abysmal... my girlfriend (who&#039;s father was a Ford exec) got one new and the paint started peeling off before the car was 2 weeks old).  Other alternatives included the Chrysler K-car convertible or from GM, a Cavalier or Sunbird convertible... white vinyl was available if you were feeling sporty.  Against this, the Alfa with a twin-cam engine, slick 5-speed manual, one of the best operating tops ever designed (save for the Miata&#039;s) and, of course, a bit of style was still dated, but not totally out of the running.  Basically, nearly every car on the market sucked big time compared to even the cheapest appliance available these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Funny, the steering wheel in this car doesn&#8217;t look anything like laquered wood in the photos.  Not to nit pick, but I believe that after 1984 none of the Alfa Spiders came with wood wheels and they lost the metal dash pods at the sametime.  I can only assume that these changes were made either in the name of safety regulations or lowered manufacturing costs.  OTOH, the Alfa Spider is one of the few cars around in which an aftermarket wood wheel doesn&#8217;t look out of place.  </p>
<p>I was at a charity auction a couple of weeks ago and there was a red Graduate almost identical to the one in your test for sale.  It only had about 60k original miles and looked great.  It sold for a market-correct $5,100.  A lot of fun for the money.  I was very tempted until I remembered the 1991 silver Miata sitting in my driveway at home.  </p>
<p>The late 1980s and early &#8217;90s surely had a lot of interesting Japanese cars hitting the market.  Objectively, any CRX, MR2 or Miata were all superior to the dated roadsters from Alfa, Fiat, and MG that were either being sold or on their last legs just a few years earlier.   The Miata was the first modern roadster introduced since, I don&#8217;t know, the Triumph TR7?  </p>
<p>You do need some perpective in your article.  In 1986 the Ford Mustang&#8217;s base 4-cylinder had something like 85 hp and build quality was abysmal&#8230; my girlfriend (who&#8217;s father was a Ford exec) got one new and the paint started peeling off before the car was 2 weeks old).  Other alternatives included the Chrysler K-car convertible or from GM, a Cavalier or Sunbird convertible&#8230; white vinyl was available if you were feeling sporty.  Against this, the Alfa with a twin-cam engine, slick 5-speed manual, one of the best operating tops ever designed (save for the Miata&#8217;s) and, of course, a bit of style was still dated, but not totally out of the running.  Basically, nearly every car on the market sucked big time compared to even the cheapest appliance available these days.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ambaker</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/1986-alfa-romeo-spider-graduate-review/comment-page-1/#comment-531771</link>
		<dc:creator>ambaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former owner of a couple of these puppies, I highly recommend them for teenage boys.  An Alfa will keep your children off the streets.

On the other hand, I drove one from Idaho Falls,ID to Sacramento, CA after working a graveyard shift.  735 miles to be exact.  I&#039;ve driven that route in various cars and trucks over the years.  The ride in the Alfa was the best.  Got to Sacramento and I felt like I could turn it around and do it again.  The car fit like a glove.  No sore spots, no pressure points, no stiffness.  All without inflatable back support, lumbar adjustement or other fancy new stuff.

That being said, the Alfa is best as a second or third car.  They have their own internal maintenance schedule.  Which they do not share until it is time for you to fix them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->As a former owner of a couple of these puppies, I highly recommend them for teenage boys.  An Alfa will keep your children off the streets.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I drove one from Idaho Falls,ID to Sacramento, CA after working a graveyard shift.  735 miles to be exact.  I&#8217;ve driven that route in various cars and trucks over the years.  The ride in the Alfa was the best.  Got to Sacramento and I felt like I could turn it around and do it again.  The car fit like a glove.  No sore spots, no pressure points, no stiffness.  All without inflatable back support, lumbar adjustement or other fancy new stuff.</p>
<p>That being said, the Alfa is best as a second or third car.  They have their own internal maintenance schedule.  Which they do not share until it is time for you to fix them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: TR3GUY</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/1986-alfa-romeo-spider-graduate-review/comment-page-1/#comment-521221</link>
		<dc:creator>TR3GUY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well after reading all the posts I mentioned that Alfa was coming back with their already sold out car but might bring the brand back.  I got this stare of death.  &quot;You just said the Miata is better quality, etc etc etc.&quot;  Well that was compaired to the 85 I said.  There is something about an Alfa -- If they&#039;ve solved the oil leak and wiring problem, I know I&#039;ll look.  While there aren&#039;t that many new MX5&#039;s out there, the cool think about an Alfa (and mom&#039;s Rover 2000) is that there were only a couple in town.  And people who say, wow what&#039;s that.  It was so anti snob it was snob!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Well after reading all the posts I mentioned that Alfa was coming back with their already sold out car but might bring the brand back.  I got this stare of death.  &#8220;You just said the Miata is better quality, etc etc etc.&#8221;  Well that was compaired to the 85 I said.  There is something about an Alfa &#8212; If they&#8217;ve solved the oil leak and wiring problem, I know I&#8217;ll look.  While there aren&#8217;t that many new MX5&#8217;s out there, the cool think about an Alfa (and mom&#8217;s Rover 2000) is that there were only a couple in town.  And people who say, wow what&#8217;s that.  It was so anti snob it was snob!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Horner</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious.  Is the two star rating in the context of today&#039;s new cars, today&#039;s available special interest cars or as compared to what was on the market in 1986?</description>
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		<title>By: Zarba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zarba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife has a 1990 Spider Graduate.  Upgraded to the Quadrifoglio&#039;s 15&quot; &#039;telephone dial&#039; wheels. 

She&#039;s owned it since new, and it served as her daily driver for 8 years.

Reliability: The 1990 was a &quot;transition year&quot;, with the old body style and newer Bosch Motronic engine controls.  The car never failed to start, even when the temp was in the single digits. 

Overall, it has been very reliable, never leaving us stranded.  The key to these cars is regular (maniacal) maintenance.  You have to stay on top of anything that goes wrong, or you&#039;re in for a cascade of problems and repair costs. It helps if you&#039;re willing to do basic preventative stuff yourself. The Alfa twin-cam holds 7 QUARTS of oil, so you have no excuse to let it get starved for dino juice. These cars were designed back when reliability was not a big concern, especially for Italians. Electrical gremlins can pop up and be Hell to track down, but the basic design is pretty simple and easy to fix.

The biggest problem for these are the 3rd owners, who buy them used and who can&#039;t afford or don&#039;t understand the upkeep requirements.  They let the car go, and then dump it on some poor schlub who has to fix years of neglect.  &lt;strong&gt;You have to find and keep a good mechanic who understands them!&lt;/strong&gt;

Handling: Back in 1966, this was a great handling car, but let&#039;s face it, chassis technoolgy has come a long, long way.  These cars are best suited to top-down cruising at 7/10ths. Any decent Miata will run rings around one, but a Miata won&#039;t ever have the soul of an Italian.  Don&#039;t get cocky, kid, and you&#039;ll be just fine.  An aftermarket chassis stiffener will do wonders, though.

Ergonomics: The Italians, they spit on your ergonomics. One fine point: The shifter, directly hooked to the tranny and sprouting out of the console, is mechanical bliss.  Watch out for those 2nd gear synchro&#039;s, though.  

Engine: The classic Alfa twin-cam is a wonderful engine, and a thing of beauty under the hood.  Emissions controls have dulled it&#039;s rev-happy nature.  Try a 60&#039;s vintage Alfa, 1300 through 1750, and enjoy running that bad boy to 7,000 rpm all day long. The 2 liter still has all those wonderful mechanical sounds, and it returns great fuel economy to boot.

We love the Spider, and it will remain the garage as long as we can keep the insurance paid.  There&#039;s nothing like an Italian roadster on a mountain road in the springtime.

Tail of The Dragon, anyone?  

Maybe one day I&#039;ll set keyboard to blog and defend the honor of my &#039;95 164 Quadrifoglio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My wife has a 1990 Spider Graduate.  Upgraded to the Quadrifoglio&#8217;s 15&#8243; &#8216;telephone dial&#8217; wheels. </p>
<p>She&#8217;s owned it since new, and it served as her daily driver for 8 years.</p>
<p>Reliability: The 1990 was a &#8220;transition year&#8221;, with the old body style and newer Bosch Motronic engine controls.  The car never failed to start, even when the temp was in the single digits. </p>
<p>Overall, it has been very reliable, never leaving us stranded.  The key to these cars is regular (maniacal) maintenance.  You have to stay on top of anything that goes wrong, or you&#8217;re in for a cascade of problems and repair costs. It helps if you&#8217;re willing to do basic preventative stuff yourself. The Alfa twin-cam holds 7 QUARTS of oil, so you have no excuse to let it get starved for dino juice. These cars were designed back when reliability was not a big concern, especially for Italians. Electrical gremlins can pop up and be Hell to track down, but the basic design is pretty simple and easy to fix.</p>
<p>The biggest problem for these are the 3rd owners, who buy them used and who can&#8217;t afford or don&#8217;t understand the upkeep requirements.  They let the car go, and then dump it on some poor schlub who has to fix years of neglect.  <strong>You have to find and keep a good mechanic who understands them!</strong></p>
<p>Handling: Back in 1966, this was a great handling car, but let&#8217;s face it, chassis technoolgy has come a long, long way.  These cars are best suited to top-down cruising at 7/10ths. Any decent Miata will run rings around one, but a Miata won&#8217;t ever have the soul of an Italian.  Don&#8217;t get cocky, kid, and you&#8217;ll be just fine.  An aftermarket chassis stiffener will do wonders, though.</p>
<p>Ergonomics: The Italians, they spit on your ergonomics. One fine point: The shifter, directly hooked to the tranny and sprouting out of the console, is mechanical bliss.  Watch out for those 2nd gear synchro&#8217;s, though.  </p>
<p>Engine: The classic Alfa twin-cam is a wonderful engine, and a thing of beauty under the hood.  Emissions controls have dulled it&#8217;s rev-happy nature.  Try a 60&#8217;s vintage Alfa, 1300 through 1750, and enjoy running that bad boy to 7,000 rpm all day long. The 2 liter still has all those wonderful mechanical sounds, and it returns great fuel economy to boot.</p>
<p>We love the Spider, and it will remain the garage as long as we can keep the insurance paid.  There&#8217;s nothing like an Italian roadster on a mountain road in the springtime.</p>
<p>Tail of The Dragon, anyone?  </p>
<p>Maybe one day I&#8217;ll set keyboard to blog and defend the honor of my &#8216;95 164 Quadrifoglio.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: TR3GUY</title>
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		<dc:creator>TR3GUY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learned to drive on my dad&#039;s old TR, because he just bought an Alfa. I never wanted to drive my car again.  Reliability HA! But a 1967 Alfa going down the highway at 110 felt very secure (I was 18 at the time).  Pulling away from the light sounded like tearing silk.  It was a head turner and just plan sex!  But as TTAC says if you want idea and reliability get an MX5.  Damp, didn&#039;t start, Clutch ahh, Warped head, part of the fun. After buying a TR-3 10 years ago in memory of it being my first car, I dumped it for and &#039;01 Miata and now have an &#039;06.   Every so often I see an Alfa or Rover 2000 for sale and think about buying it, then I remember that the money spent on the TR could have bought a really nice BMW and I move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I learned to drive on my dad&#8217;s old TR, because he just bought an Alfa. I never wanted to drive my car again.  Reliability HA! But a 1967 Alfa going down the highway at 110 felt very secure (I was 18 at the time).  Pulling away from the light sounded like tearing silk.  It was a head turner and just plan sex!  But as TTAC says if you want idea and reliability get an MX5.  Damp, didn&#8217;t start, Clutch ahh, Warped head, part of the fun. After buying a TR-3 10 years ago in memory of it being my first car, I dumped it for and &#8216;01 Miata and now have an &#8216;06.   Every so often I see an Alfa or Rover 2000 for sale and think about buying it, then I remember that the money spent on the TR could have bought a really nice BMW and I move on.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Morea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be pointed out that in 1986 the Spider Graduate was the bottom of the line Alfa Romeo for sale in the United States.  It would be more relevant to write a review on the 1986 GTV 6 with its 2.5 liter V6 and 0-to-60 time of 8.8 sec or the 1988 Alfa Romeo Milano Verde with its 3.0 liter V6 and 0-to-60 time of 7.7 sec.

More broadly, Alfa Romeo is known historically for its 4 seater coupes.  Post-WW2 these have been the top of the model range.  Only in the United States is Alfa synonymous with the spider.

Put it this way, Alfa Romeo is more BMW and less Porsche; i.e. 4 seaters over 2 seaters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It should be pointed out that in 1986 the Spider Graduate was the bottom of the line Alfa Romeo for sale in the United States.  It would be more relevant to write a review on the 1986 GTV 6 with its 2.5 liter V6 and 0-to-60 time of 8.8 sec or the 1988 Alfa Romeo Milano Verde with its 3.0 liter V6 and 0-to-60 time of 7.7 sec.</p>
<p>More broadly, Alfa Romeo is known historically for its 4 seater coupes.  Post-WW2 these have been the top of the model range.  Only in the United States is Alfa synonymous with the spider.</p>
<p>Put it this way, Alfa Romeo is more BMW and less Porsche; i.e. 4 seaters over 2 seaters.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Lokki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I owned an Alfa in the 70&#039;s - The spider was a fun car with an aluminum DOHC engine, a 5 speed, 4 wheel disc brakes, and fuel injection and (as I recall 50/50 weight distribution).  Those were rare features in those days. 

The Spider was a joy to drive. It would -always- do whatever you asked of it.   I think that the author underestimates the car&#039;s abilities (although I never drove the later 80&#039;s versions so things might have changed by then). 

I remember reading a review of a late 60&#039;s spider that really summed up the Alfa experience well.
The author and a friend were testing the spider and found it nice enough, but not too exciting on the mountain roads they were using for the test. They stopped for a late lunch at a mountaintop cafe and lazed away the afternoon. 

They came out to the car about an hour before sunset, with a two hour drive home, and soon discovered that the headlights weren&#039;t working. Typical. 

The answer: get home before sunset. The harder the author pushed the car, the more it responded. They made it back home just as the sun was fading below the horizon, with a new love for Alfas.

His conclusion:

Always drive your Alfa like it&#039;s an hour before sunset, and you&#039;re two hours away from home.

If Alfa comes back to the U.S. and there&#039;s any way I can afford one, I&#039;ll own another one, and you practical types can go to &lt;strike&gt;Hel&lt;/strike&gt; Toyota.

Having said all that: In 1986, I bought my first Acura Integra. It had all the virtues of my Alfa (an aluminum DOHC engine, a 5 speed, 4 wheel disc brakes, and fuel injection); it was fun to drive, and it never, ever, needed to see the mechanic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I owned an Alfa in the 70&#8217;s &#8211; The spider was a fun car with an aluminum DOHC engine, a 5 speed, 4 wheel disc brakes, and fuel injection and (as I recall 50/50 weight distribution).  Those were rare features in those days. </p>
<p>The Spider was a joy to drive. It would -always- do whatever you asked of it.   I think that the author underestimates the car&#8217;s abilities (although I never drove the later 80&#8217;s versions so things might have changed by then). </p>
<p>I remember reading a review of a late 60&#8217;s spider that really summed up the Alfa experience well.<br />
The author and a friend were testing the spider and found it nice enough, but not too exciting on the mountain roads they were using for the test. They stopped for a late lunch at a mountaintop cafe and lazed away the afternoon. </p>
<p>They came out to the car about an hour before sunset, with a two hour drive home, and soon discovered that the headlights weren&#8217;t working. Typical. </p>
<p>The answer: get home before sunset. The harder the author pushed the car, the more it responded. They made it back home just as the sun was fading below the horizon, with a new love for Alfas.</p>
<p>His conclusion:</p>
<p>Always drive your Alfa like it&#8217;s an hour before sunset, and you&#8217;re two hours away from home.</p>
<p>If Alfa comes back to the U.S. and there&#8217;s any way I can afford one, I&#8217;ll own another one, and you practical types can go to <strike>Hel</strike> Toyota.</p>
<p>Having said all that: In 1986, I bought my first Acura Integra. It had all the virtues of my Alfa (an aluminum DOHC engine, a 5 speed, 4 wheel disc brakes, and fuel injection); it was fun to drive, and it never, ever, needed to see the mechanic.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: kid cassady</title>
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		<dc:creator>kid cassady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s important to remember context here - back then, 9.5 seconds was considered decent performance off the line, especially for a car powered by a four-cylinder NA engine. The far more practical, but less saucy, &#039;84 Porsche 944 NA still took a woeful 9.0 seconds to get to sixty.</description>
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		<title>By: HtownHeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>HtownHeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Temple of VTEC worshippers may not wish to note that the Alfa Romeo Spider was the first production car to use variable valve timing back in 1980, beating Honda&#039;s V-Tec system by almost ten years.&lt;/em&gt;

Count me among those that worship at TOV, so this line caught my eye.  

Granted, variable timing has been around for a while - there was an aftermarket automatic timing adjust cam pulley available watercooled VWs back in the 80s - I know, I had a 79 Scirocco.

Remember, though, that VTEC is timing &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; lift. I don&#039;t recall anyone doing both until (for the US market) the 92 Integra GS-R.

Nit-picking aside, nice review. Count me as another who is liking the &quot;old car&quot; reviews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Temple of VTEC worshippers may not wish to note that the Alfa Romeo Spider was the first production car to use variable valve timing back in 1980, beating Honda&#8217;s V-Tec system by almost ten years.</em></p>
<p>Count me among those that worship at TOV, so this line caught my eye.  </p>
<p>Granted, variable timing has been around for a while &#8211; there was an aftermarket automatic timing adjust cam pulley available watercooled VWs back in the 80s &#8211; I know, I had a 79 Scirocco.</p>
<p>Remember, though, that VTEC is timing <em>and</em> lift. I don&#8217;t recall anyone doing both until (for the US market) the 92 Integra GS-R.</p>
<p>Nit-picking aside, nice review. Count me as another who is liking the &#8220;old car&#8221; reviews.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BigChiefMuffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigChiefMuffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mother had 2 Alfa Spyders, a late 70&#039;s and one of the last ones. My brother had one, and my first girlfriend had one. These things have followed me wherever I go. And the thing is, by any objective measure, they&#039;re crap cars - shoddily made ( even the last ones ), geriatric handling, a nice engine but no real performance. The thing is, none of them cared a bit. My father owned a 959, 275 and an EB110 - he told my mother that she could get anything she wanted, and she still chose another Spyder. They lived in the south of France and, to tell the truth, she probably made the right call. For anyone who enjoys living more than driving, it is the perfect car - stylish, different, doesn&#039;t offend anyone but simply raises a smile and sometimes a waive from other road users. The strange thing is that, with so many car manufacturers these days claiming to be developing niche models, no one - not even Alfa - have really managed to do this with any current car. How strange and sad....

Great article - let&#039;s have more in this vein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My mother had 2 Alfa Spyders, a late 70&#8217;s and one of the last ones. My brother had one, and my first girlfriend had one. These things have followed me wherever I go. And the thing is, by any objective measure, they&#8217;re crap cars &#8211; shoddily made ( even the last ones ), geriatric handling, a nice engine but no real performance. The thing is, none of them cared a bit. My father owned a 959, 275 and an EB110 &#8211; he told my mother that she could get anything she wanted, and she still chose another Spyder. They lived in the south of France and, to tell the truth, she probably made the right call. For anyone who enjoys living more than driving, it is the perfect car &#8211; stylish, different, doesn&#8217;t offend anyone but simply raises a smile and sometimes a waive from other road users. The strange thing is that, with so many car manufacturers these days claiming to be developing niche models, no one &#8211; not even Alfa &#8211; have really managed to do this with any current car. How strange and sad&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jerseydevil</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i owned an X1/9. what a magnificent car.  LIke a go-card, unlike anything on the road, attracted all kinds of attention, fun fun fun. Just what my 25 year old self needed.

Of course it started falling apart almost as soon as i drove it out of the dealer. It overheated all the time.  The drivers seat broke, the driver window handle broke. what a mess.

but my god what a ride, i still remember the wail of the engine, it gave me goosebumps. U didnt as much get into it, u put it on.  LOved to be flailed, always came back for more.   amazing vehicle, i miss it so bad.  Nothing like it on the road today except the Lotus, but i can barely fit into that.

sigh.  few sexy cars anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->i owned an X1/9. what a magnificent car.  LIke a go-card, unlike anything on the road, attracted all kinds of attention, fun fun fun. Just what my 25 year old self needed.</p>
<p>Of course it started falling apart almost as soon as i drove it out of the dealer. It overheated all the time.  The drivers seat broke, the driver window handle broke. what a mess.</p>
<p>but my god what a ride, i still remember the wail of the engine, it gave me goosebumps. U didnt as much get into it, u put it on.  LOved to be flailed, always came back for more.   amazing vehicle, i miss it so bad.  Nothing like it on the road today except the Lotus, but i can barely fit into that.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From living in Europe, I know the reliability issues that are attributed to Alfa in the US are not representative anymore of the reality.

With the 156 (1998) they made a first big step forwards in terms of reliability and it seems the new generation (159, 149) will be better still. The 156/147 were about on par with much of the German competition (VW/Opel), which obviously is worse than the Japanese but quite acceptable to me. In Europe the reliabilty of the Japanese is largely offset by the much higher service costs. New FIATs also do quite well in reliability tests nowadays, so it&#039;s looking good.

&lt;em&gt;The awful part about European cars–especially VW, MB and BMW–is that attitude of treating North American customers and dealers like proverbial lepers persists to this day. It would be problematic for Honda or Toyota to do it (they don’t–the Asians are very good about warranty work); yet VW and MB do it regularly and I’ll wager there’s executives who can’t understand why their collective reputations are in the tank.&lt;/em&gt;

In Europe, there is a very different mentality about customer is king than in the US. That has both it&#039;s benefits but also drawbacks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->From living in Europe, I know the reliability issues that are attributed to Alfa in the US are not representative anymore of the reality.</p>
<p>With the 156 (1998) they made a first big step forwards in terms of reliability and it seems the new generation (159, 149) will be better still. The 156/147 were about on par with much of the German competition (VW/Opel), which obviously is worse than the Japanese but quite acceptable to me. In Europe the reliabilty of the Japanese is largely offset by the much higher service costs. New FIATs also do quite well in reliability tests nowadays, so it&#8217;s looking good.</p>
<p><em>The awful part about European cars–especially VW, MB and BMW–is that attitude of treating North American customers and dealers like proverbial lepers persists to this day. It would be problematic for Honda or Toyota to do it (they don’t–the Asians are very good about warranty work); yet VW and MB do it regularly and I’ll wager there’s executives who can’t understand why their collective reputations are in the tank.</em></p>
<p>In Europe, there is a very different mentality about customer is king than in the US. That has both it&#8217;s benefits but also drawbacks&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dynamic88</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never drove an Alfa.   Always loved the looks of the Spider, but mine would have to come with Japanese reliability.   Which brings us to what is truely exciting about Alfa coming back to the US - will they do it right this time?   Are the current products reliable?   What is their brand image?   Why would I buy a four door sedan from a sports car maker?  Will they be strictly bi-costal in terms of availability and support?   

I love the possibility of a company coming here and making the D3 look like they&#039;ve got their act together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Never drove an Alfa.   Always loved the looks of the Spider, but mine would have to come with Japanese reliability.   Which brings us to what is truely exciting about Alfa coming back to the US &#8211; will they do it right this time?   Are the current products reliable?   What is their brand image?   Why would I buy a four door sedan from a sports car maker?  Will they be strictly bi-costal in terms of availability and support?   </p>
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		<title>By: golden2husky</title>
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		<dc:creator>golden2husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love these old reviews.  A high school acquaintance had the house with the &quot;cool cars&quot;.  An Alfa was one of these, amongst the various Porsches, Jaguars, and once even a Delorean.  No, his choices would never have made a Consumer Reports Best Buy, but how awesome these cars were.  No doubt better in the mind that on the road, but compared to today&#039;s overweight cars, wow.  Thanks for the time trip.  A emotional car like this is like choosing a Harley.  Viewed on paper, you would have to ask why?  But if that is the question you are asking, you just don&#039;t get it.  Keep these interesting old car reviews coming...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Love these old reviews.  A high school acquaintance had the house with the &#8220;cool cars&#8221;.  An Alfa was one of these, amongst the various Porsches, Jaguars, and once even a Delorean.  No, his choices would never have made a Consumer Reports Best Buy, but how awesome these cars were.  No doubt better in the mind that on the road, but compared to today&#8217;s overweight cars, wow.  Thanks for the time trip.  A emotional car like this is like choosing a Harley.  Viewed on paper, you would have to ask why?  But if that is the question you are asking, you just don&#8217;t get it.  Keep these interesting old car reviews coming&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: johnny ro</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great review, great car.

you left out rust as a defect. I remember brand new ones coming in for stereo upgrade, pull up carpet, look at cracks in paint on floor with rust bleeding out, shake head and move on.

Very pretty motor.  

0-60, who cares. Go buy a vette if you don&#039;t get it. or a 15 year old GSXR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->great review, great car.</p>
<p>you left out rust as a defect. I remember brand new ones coming in for stereo upgrade, pull up carpet, look at cracks in paint on floor with rust bleeding out, shake head and move on.</p>
<p>Very pretty motor.  </p>
<p>0-60, who cares. Go buy a vette if you don&#8217;t get it. or a 15 year old GSXR.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: whatdoiknow1</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd as it may be, even to myself! I have driven a number of alfas in my life: two Spyders, a GTV-6, two Milanos, a 2.5 and 3.0 and a 164. 

The best I can say about Alfa of the late 1980s to early 1990s is that thet are intersting and very quirky. They had very bad ergonomics, the seating postions sucked, the petals were badly offset, the foot wells were too small. Brand new from the dealer and they still looked of questionable quality. 
These were cars the people purchased for the sake of being different and always ended up hating themselves for it.
The spyders were all dog slow, even for a tiny little roadster and by the mid 1980s the than new MR2 showed us just how old fashion and obsolete the Spyder was by than. BUT, and I MEAN BUT you felt like a HERO driving that thing. We were young back than and &quot;grown&quot; mature women used to love that car and whoever was driving it! One of the spyders was a silver 1987 Quadafiglio with the grey leather with red stitching, nice but the car was ruined by an ugly body kit. I could never get used to the location of the gearshift coming out of the dash! 
The GTV-6 was a true poor-mans exotic back then. Ah the joy of RWD motoring, 150hp never felt so good. But in the end the GTV was a heartbreaker for my brother. Fix one thing, think the car is now right and than bang something else is broken. The GTV was that beautiful chick you dated and loved but in the end never really made you satisfied. 
Now that Milano, it was different with that strange kink in the back that made it look like it had been rear-ended. What a narrow car on inside, it felt like Afla took a GTV and simply added two doors and was not very comfortable in the front or back seats. The 2.5 engine was ok but the 3.0 in the quadofiglio (spelling?) was a blast.
The 164, what can I say? WhoTF wanted to deal with Alfa quirks in a FWD car! By 1990 with the SAAB 9000 pushing out 200 turboed HP the 164 made zero sense. Once again, it was a nice looking car inside and out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Odd as it may be, even to myself! I have driven a number of alfas in my life: two Spyders, a GTV-6, two Milanos, a 2.5 and 3.0 and a 164. </p>
<p>The best I can say about Alfa of the late 1980s to early 1990s is that thet are intersting and very quirky. They had very bad ergonomics, the seating postions sucked, the petals were badly offset, the foot wells were too small. Brand new from the dealer and they still looked of questionable quality.<br />
These were cars the people purchased for the sake of being different and always ended up hating themselves for it.<br />
The spyders were all dog slow, even for a tiny little roadster and by the mid 1980s the than new MR2 showed us just how old fashion and obsolete the Spyder was by than. BUT, and I MEAN BUT you felt like a HERO driving that thing. We were young back than and &#8220;grown&#8221; mature women used to love that car and whoever was driving it! One of the spyders was a silver 1987 Quadafiglio with the grey leather with red stitching, nice but the car was ruined by an ugly body kit. I could never get used to the location of the gearshift coming out of the dash!<br />
The GTV-6 was a true poor-mans exotic back then. Ah the joy of RWD motoring, 150hp never felt so good. But in the end the GTV was a heartbreaker for my brother. Fix one thing, think the car is now right and than bang something else is broken. The GTV was that beautiful chick you dated and loved but in the end never really made you satisfied.<br />
Now that Milano, it was different with that strange kink in the back that made it look like it had been rear-ended. What a narrow car on inside, it felt like Afla took a GTV and simply added two doors and was not very comfortable in the front or back seats. The 2.5 engine was ok but the 3.0 in the quadofiglio (spelling?) was a blast.<br />
The 164, what can I say? WhoTF wanted to deal with Alfa quirks in a FWD car! By 1990 with the SAAB 9000 pushing out 200 turboed HP the 164 made zero sense. Once again, it was a nice looking car inside and out.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BEAT</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:LegendZCAR.jpg</description>
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		<title>By: Redbarchetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbarchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is up with the 2 stars, are we comparing the car to what is out today or what was available back in 1986? The performance wasn&#039;t bad for the emission choked cars from the 80&#039;s. And you wrote the car can&#039;t be a good daily driver, it was my daily driver for almost 10 years. I remember every speeding ticket I ever got in that car, and there were quite a few.</description>
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		<title>By: dolo54</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the old car review. Though it may not be fast I still would thoroughly enjoy driving one. Even just to complain about how slow it is.</description>
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		<title>By: Acd</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every now and then I find myself wanting another Alfa Spider but then I remember what happended the first time I had one.  I bought a pristine 1987 Alfa Graduate with 30,000 miles, black with tan interior, in 1992.  It wasn&#039;t that fast, couldn&#039;t go around corners nearly as quickly as a base CRX, and had as much cowl shake as my old Fiat Spider but it looked great and I loved driving it with the top down on a nice sunny day.  Later that year I went to work at a Mazda dealership and got the chance to drive a few Miata&#039;s back from the auction.  They were fast, handled like they were on rails and didn&#039;t have any of the horrible cowl shake the my beloved Alfa had on rough pavement.  Eventually I found myself taking a Miata home on weekends and on my days off while the poor Alfa just sat in the garage.  Eventually I realized that it didn&#039;t make sense for me to keep paying for a car that I didn&#039;t really like driving any more.  I kept it for a little over a year and put less than 800 miles on it before selling it.  

I&#039;m planning on buying an Alfa when they come back to the U.S. as long as they drive more like my old GTV-6 than my Spider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Every now and then I find myself wanting another Alfa Spider but then I remember what happended the first time I had one.  I bought a pristine 1987 Alfa Graduate with 30,000 miles, black with tan interior, in 1992.  It wasn&#8217;t that fast, couldn&#8217;t go around corners nearly as quickly as a base CRX, and had as much cowl shake as my old Fiat Spider but it looked great and I loved driving it with the top down on a nice sunny day.  Later that year I went to work at a Mazda dealership and got the chance to drive a few Miata&#8217;s back from the auction.  They were fast, handled like they were on rails and didn&#8217;t have any of the horrible cowl shake the my beloved Alfa had on rough pavement.  Eventually I found myself taking a Miata home on weekends and on my days off while the poor Alfa just sat in the garage.  Eventually I realized that it didn&#8217;t make sense for me to keep paying for a car that I didn&#8217;t really like driving any more.  I kept it for a little over a year and put less than 800 miles on it before selling it.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m planning on buying an Alfa when they come back to the U.S. as long as they drive more like my old GTV-6 than my Spider.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: N85523</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good work on the entertaining review. Once again, props to TTAC for the reviews of non-new cars. They are fun to read and provide some good history lessons, something that many automakers could use these days.</description>
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		<title>By: willbodine</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember navigating in a friend&#039;s A-R Giulia Spyder for some amateur rallies back in the late 60&#039;s. Surprisingly comfortable is my recollection. Shame I never see them anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I remember navigating in a friend&#8217;s A-R Giulia Spyder for some amateur rallies back in the late 60&#8217;s. Surprisingly comfortable is my recollection. Shame I never see them anymore.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Redbarchetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbarchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I just got lucky or it was because it was the last generation Alfa Spider Veloce a 1991, but mine was pretty reliable. Way more dependable than my current Cadillac and the Honda Prelude lemon I had as my first car. My biggest complaint was the the 2 mufflers in series only lasted 40,000 miles like clockwork, and they were f*cken expensive. 185,000 glorious miles until my throwout bearing went and I parked it. It even went 50,000 miles without an oil change, not advisable but it still ran like a champ, and the car just loved to be driven hard. I thought the performance was awesome too, I had no problem keeping up with my bosses &#039;94 911 racing back to Tybee at over 110 mph.

It did have quirky ergonomics but I grew to love them, especially that shifter attached right to the tranny with no linkage. I drove a Miata and absulutely hated it, very sterile, and the suspension beat me up good.

I can&#039;t wait until Alfa finally comes back, I have been waiting 19 years, and if I can afford it I will be first in line for one of their RWD offerings with 4 doors this time since I need to cram the family in it. I am still considering replacing the Cadillac with an old Milano or GTV6, might as well have fun working on the car instead of cursing at it constantly. BTW the cars are surprisingly easy to work on if you get a detailed service book, you will really start to understand and admire the engineering.

Also to note the Spider ran on a 25 year old platform, it changed very little from the original Duetto, body panel changes and a little more rigidity. I would consider that pretty impresive when comparing it to other cars offered in the 80&#039;s. The engine was also very advanced for its day, why else would Nissan basically steal the design for their &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SR20DET.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;lightbox[48482]&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SR20DE&lt;/a&gt;, look familair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Maybe I just got lucky or it was because it was the last generation Alfa Spider Veloce a 1991, but mine was pretty reliable. Way more dependable than my current Cadillac and the Honda Prelude lemon I had as my first car. My biggest complaint was the the 2 mufflers in series only lasted 40,000 miles like clockwork, and they were f*cken expensive. 185,000 glorious miles until my throwout bearing went and I parked it. It even went 50,000 miles without an oil change, not advisable but it still ran like a champ, and the car just loved to be driven hard. I thought the performance was awesome too, I had no problem keeping up with my bosses &#8216;94 911 racing back to Tybee at over 110 mph.</p>
<p>It did have quirky ergonomics but I grew to love them, especially that shifter attached right to the tranny with no linkage. I drove a Miata and absulutely hated it, very sterile, and the suspension beat me up good.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait until Alfa finally comes back, I have been waiting 19 years, and if I can afford it I will be first in line for one of their RWD offerings with 4 doors this time since I need to cram the family in it. I am still considering replacing the Cadillac with an old Milano or GTV6, might as well have fun working on the car instead of cursing at it constantly. BTW the cars are surprisingly easy to work on if you get a detailed service book, you will really start to understand and admire the engineering.</p>
<p>Also to note the Spider ran on a 25 year old platform, it changed very little from the original Duetto, body panel changes and a little more rigidity. I would consider that pretty impresive when comparing it to other cars offered in the 80&#8217;s. The engine was also very advanced for its day, why else would Nissan basically steal the design for their <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SR20DET.jpg" rel="lightbox[48482]" rel="nofollow">SR20DE</a>, look familair.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: chuckgoolsbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuckgoolsbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>baabthesaab is right. Sports Car ! = &quot;Fast&quot;.

GT cars should be fast and handle well.
Muscle cars are fast but handle like pigs.
Sports cars handle like a dream but are not really all that fast.

If Alfa comes back to the USA, with a Spider equipped with the JTDM engine, I&#039;ll be the first guy to buy one. I&#039;ll likely regret it, but that won&#039;t stop me from writing the check! 

--chuck
http://chuck.goolsbee.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->baabthesaab is right. Sports Car ! = &#8220;Fast&#8221;.</p>
<p>GT cars should be fast and handle well.<br />
Muscle cars are fast but handle like pigs.<br />
Sports cars handle like a dream but are not really all that fast.</p>
<p>If Alfa comes back to the USA, with a Spider equipped with the JTDM engine, I&#8217;ll be the first guy to buy one. I&#8217;ll likely regret it, but that won&#8217;t stop me from writing the check! </p>
<p>&#8211;chuck<br />
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